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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was archived by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 23:31, 22 October 2017 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Slovenia international footballers[edit]

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Nominator(s): Snowflake91 (talk) 19:32, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because the article has clear inclusion criterias, is well-sourced, and was modelled after other similar football FL lists. Snowflake91 (talk) 19:32, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Harrias talk
  • First, big one is that the table needs to be accessible. MOS:DTT gives some guidance on this.
  • The equals signs don't work in the '#' column, as they break the sortability.
  • Personally, I'd expect this list to give me some indication of the captains of the team.
  • Visually, I think the table would be better narrower.
  • The lead could probably do with being expanded a little bit more for a featured list too.

Overall I think a fair amount of work is needed to improve this to Featured quality. Perhaps take a look at the more recently promoted List of Cardiff City F.C. players for a more up to date idea of what is expected. Harrias talk 09:01, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Response

Hello, thanks for your comments. Resolving the problems:

  • Done, recreated the table from scratch.
  • Removed "#" column, which is not really needed.
  • Marked players which captained the team in five or more matches with source; there are no "fixed" captains over longer period, so its hard to do it year-by-year.
  • The table is now narrower, same as on Cardiff article.
  • Expanded the lead with 3-4 new sentences, if the lead is still too short I would like some ideas what could be mentioned as well since I cant think of anything. Snowflake91 (talk) 19:33, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:06, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Spell out Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia instead of just using SFR Yugoslavia.
  • Link "friendly" in the lead.
  • "73rd minute for the final score of 1–1" maybe "73rd minute, the game ending in a 1–1 draw".
  • " has managed to qualify for" -> "has qualified for".
  • " earned at least one appearance for " a bit odd for me, maybe "have represented"
  • " who made 98 appearances" is he still playing? if so then "who, as of 2017, has made 98..."
  • "with 81 caps between " don't repeat "cap" here, just "with 81 appearances"
  • " twelve years between 1992 and 2004" that's actually 13 years inclusive.
  • "A total of 22 players captained the national team for at least one match" "A total of" is unnecessary although we shouldn't start sentences with numbers.
  • "official matches.[12][9]" reverse order those refs.
  • " list is ordered by" is initially.
  • "Only the players with at least ten appearances in official matches are listed." this probably means the list title needs to be changed (see List of Arsenal F.C. players (1–24 appearances) for instance).

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:55, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments, I fixed everything with exception of "list is ordered by" is initially" – I don't understand what exactly should be changed? The listing criteria should be mentioned in the lead section, or? Regarding renaming the article, maybe it should follow the example of another FL, List of France international footballers, where there is a note at top of the page that only the players with 20 appearances are listed? Snowflake91 (talk) 10:04, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. You just need to add "initially" to the text. The minimum number of appearances for inclusion most definitely should be made clearer. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:13, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Done, also added the hatnote about inclusion criteria. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:21, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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