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List of York City F.C. players[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page. The closing editor's comments were: 11 days, 4 support, 0 oppose. Promote. Scorpion0422 17:15, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have been doing work on this article over the last week or so, which has mostly included appearances from all competitions to league, as I do not have access to complete records and doubt they can be found easily. However, I feel it meets the criteria for FL status nonetheless. Thanks. Mattythewhite 16:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - I think it's silly to list players who made a loan deal permanent (such as Barry Jones) as having two spells at the club. I can sort of see the point on the player's infobox (although I disagree), but here it's just misleading. ArtVandelay13 16:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Done I've changed his spell to one. I think he's the only one who has had a loan spell which has subsequently been made permament. Mattythewhite 16:36, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • In which case, I can't see any reason not to Support. ArtVandelay13 20:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved stuff from The Rambling Man
Stuff from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)

Hey, as usual, good stuff. Some comments before I offer an opinion.

  • Use the en-dash so "1922-1929" should read "1922–29".
  • Initial ordering (at least on my machine) is odd. By appearance? I'd do it (like other lists) chronologically. The sortable table would let you sort it any old way but it's not just about appearances so I'd list it neutrally.
    •  Not done Order it by debut? This would be pretty much impossible, as I can't get this information for 1990-1996. Mattythewhite 17:38, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Don't really understand. You have their first year the club already. Look at List of Aston Villa F.C. players if what I've said is unclear. The Rambling Man 17:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • So, order them by year of joining? Sorry, I've not quite been catching your drift.. Mattythewhite 18:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • Yeah, that's right. The list would make more sense chronologically (to me)... The Rambling Man 18:07, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
            • Then alphabetically for ones with the same year? Mattythewhite 18:08, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
              • Perfecto. The Rambling Man 18:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
                • Just so you know, List of Aston Villa F.C. players lists players by their first-team debut, not by when they joined. Mattythewhite 18:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
                  • Not really bothered, it just seemed odd to list them in descending order of appearances. Whatever material you have access to (which seems limited according to what you've said) should be used. It won't stop me supporting, either way, I'm just looking for some kind of consistency across footballing featured lists. Nothing personal! The Rambling Man 18:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
                    • If you're not fussed, I'll keep it how it is; my personal opinion is this would make more sense, but I'd have liked to have had it listed by first-team debut if a source was available. It would have made life a lot easier if Batters would have published his book six years later. It seems as if that will mean York City F.C. seasons will be unable to achieve featured status, due to being able to get top scorers for six seasons! Mattythewhite 18:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(←) Yeah, no bother. The sortable table makes it not a problem. On the other tack, surely someone knows who top scored for YCFC from 90 to 96? The Rambling Man 18:54, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Consider wikilinking the positions (like I've just done at List of Ipswich Town F.C. players.
  • No captain column?
    •  Not done This information would be pretty much impossible to retrieve. Mattythewhite 17:38, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Expand the footnotes, so for most expensive purchase, say how much, from whom etc. Most goals in a game, say how many, against whom, when.
  • Jon MaCarthy has "2002" against his time. It'd be more consistent to say "2002–2003" if that was the season he played in.
    •  Not done How exactly would it be more consistent? Mattythewhite 17:38, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • The consistency comes from the fact that you're talking about the season the player is at the club, not the precise year he came or went. The Rambling Man 17:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why are [3] and [4] duplicate?

Check that lot out and let me know when you've responded, it's very close to support. The Rambling Man 17:22, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, and figures below 10 should be written in words, so three, not 3. The Rambling Man 17:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Sorted. Mattythewhite 19:21, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Anything else that can be done for your support? Mattythewhite 12:05, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hey, just a couple of minor things, but they're up for debate.
    • Not sure if you need the asterisk for multiple spells, that's clear from the two (or more) sets of dates, isn't it?
      •  Done Agree, they were pretty pointless. Removed. Mattythewhite 17:20, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Which specific reference covers the transfer fees? I've linked to the Soccerbase records page for that information. Maybe change your link to the specific York City records page?
      •  Done I've added another soccerbase reference for the records. Mattythewhite 17:20, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • As per your impending POTY list, explain Clubman (since it's unusually titled, e.g. who votes for it?).
    • I moved the italic text up to the lead and un-italicised it, consider that?
      •  Done Moved into main prose of the lead, un-italicised etc. Mattythewhite 17:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Otherwise, I think you're there. The Rambling Man 17:13, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - great work (despite the flagrant plagiarism of the international appearances thing!). Well done. The Rambling Man 18:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - although i do think a Captains column would be a good addition. To Rambling Man, Pot, kettle, black ;) Talk of plagiarism, pfff. :) Seriously, well done and great effort on the list. Follows the football featured list format. Woodym555 21:05, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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