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List of accolades received by Kal Ho Naa Ho[edit]

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Nominator(s):  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 08:04, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This article provides a listing of the notable awards and nominations received by the 2003 Indian Hindi romantic drama film, Kal Ho Naa Ho starring Jaya Bachchan, Shah Rukh Khan, Saif Ali Khan and Preity Zinta. This film is notable for garnering its cast and crew members several awards and nominations. It is my twelfth attempt at an accolades FLC, and my first for a Bollywood awards list. Any constructive comments to improve this list are most welcome.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 08:04, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Yashthepunisher[edit]

  • Fullstop missing from alt text.
  • Ref 1 of the opening sentence seems redundant.
  • Put ref 2 at the end of the sentence.
  • Ditto for plot synopsis.

Yashthepunisher (talk) 13:05, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The reason why ref no 1 is there is to signify that the film is a romantic drama in case any editor unaware of the subject might post a query about the genre. All the other comments have been resolved, Yashthepunisher  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 14:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Yash. Your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 15:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support from BeatlesLedTV[edit]

Support – Change "Ref." to "Ref(s)". Other than that I got nothing. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 19:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, BeatlesLedTV. Your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 06:37, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Kailash29792[edit]

  • Kal Ho Naa Ho is a 2003 Indian Hindi romantic drama film directed by Nikkhil Advani - write "Hindi-language" to avoid WP:SEAOFBLUE. Also, wikilink "romantic" and "drama" to separate genres (romance film and Drama (film and television)) or write a single link (romantic drama) that takes you to Romance film#Subgenres which still isn't bad per WP:NOTBROKEN.
  • The film's dialogues were penned by Niranjan Iyengar - write "written" instead of "penned" because, according to Vensatry (as seen here), the latter term looks idiomatic.
  • Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy, Javed Akhtar and Anil Mehta are linked twice in the lead section. Remove the second instance links.
  • Any reason why the lead actor has no picture in the infobox? Also, an odd number of picture arranged horizontally makes the infobox looked stretched.
  • IIFA Award for Best Movie must be rewritten as IIFA Award for Best Film since that's the article link and award name. --Kailash29792 (talk) 05:42, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have resolved your comments, Kailash29792. Do let me know if there's anything pending. Thanks.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 06:37, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
What about the image of the lead actor not being there? ----Kailash29792 (talk) 12:38, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Kailash29792, three of them are there. SRK didn't win any award for the film despite being nominated. The rest have won at least one award.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 13:25, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support: All the best for the FLC pass. --Kailash29792 (talk) 17:05, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Kailash29792. Your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 06:42, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Jim[edit]

  • Support from Jim

I saw a couple of very minor issues when i first looked at this some days ago, but they seem to have been addressed since then Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:22, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Jimfbleak. Your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 09:53, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Vedant[edit]

  • "Johar also co-produced the film with his father, Yash Johar, under their home banner, Dharma Productions." - You can start with "The latter"; the phrase "home banner" might not be the best choice either.
  • "Anil Mehta, Sanjay Sankla and Sharmishta Roy handled the cinematography, editing and production design respectively." - This isn't very clear either, as to who handled what.
  • The plot too could be written with a little more clarity.

The rest look good Ssven2. VedantTalk 10:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have hopefully resolved your comments, Numerounovedant. Do let me know if there's anything pending. Thanks.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 10:33, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I support the nomination, good luck Ssven2. VedantTalk 18:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Vedant. Your thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 01:02, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Courcelles[edit]

Resolved comments from Courcelles (talk) 14:41, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
*What written work is ref 24 trying to cite? Same with ref 20. You can't just cite the award ceremony itself, which is what it looks like you're doing.
  • Ref 22 seems useless to cite anything.
  • "Since this is a specific recognition and is different from losing an award, runner-up mentions are considered wins in this award tally." Couldn't disagree more with doing it this way.

Courcelles (talk) 22:24, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I have cited reference nos 20 and 24 is because there are no available online sources citing these award ceremonies. This is mostly because the URL links might be dead (I've tried searching for them but to no avail). Other FLCs like List of accolades received by Lagaan (ref no 29), List of accolades received by Dookudu, (ref no 16), List of accolades received by Fashion (2008 film) (ref nos 16 and 24), and List of accolades received by Kahaani (ref no 32) also use such citations to cite such award ceremonies. There are a few videos (like 1 and 2 for the screen awards, but these are only in bits and parts and are from unverified youtube channels, ie they seem to be from user accounts. As for Zee Cine Awards, this google search shows only some of the awards covered by the official youtube channel, not the entire bunch as even the youtube channel seems more focused on showing the dance performances than who the awards and nominees are). Hope you understand that this is not a Hollywood film accolades list, but one for Indian films, references for which are rather difficult to track, even for the latest award ceremonies. That is kind of a sad plight though. As for reference no 22, it shows the date on which the ceremony was held. I'll remove it if you wish it to be so. BTW, belated Happy New Year to you, and hope your future endeavours prove fruitful.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 12:57, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Moved from my talk page as being better suited for follow-up and discussion in "public" view here. I'll respond later on. Courcelles (talk) 14:26, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay, I see the point of ref 22, though having to rely on a caption to an image as proof of a date is kind of unusual. I've been trying to find an explicit quote that shows that citing the award shows themselves is wrong, because it is such an abnormal thing, it is the difference between citing CNN's website and citing their on-air reports, that one can easily be verified by another person and the other cannot. I need to do further research on this tomorrow. Courcelles (talk) 03:52, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any guideline or policy that debars us from using an award show itself as a source? Yashthepunisher (talk) 07:08, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No need to worry now, Courcelles. I've managed to replace the sources now. Do let me know now if there's anything pending.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 16:48, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The Rambling Man[edit]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 08:45, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "₹₹280 million" the INR needs a link, not just in the notes.
  • "including Best Movie " Best Movie is piped to a redirect.
  • "Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy" this appears now to use en-dashes in the title, not hyphens.
  • "Best Male Playback" another pipe to a redirect.

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:56, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved your comments, TRM. Do let me know if there's anything pending. Thanks.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 08:43, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 20:28, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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