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The list was promoted by Giants2008 14:20, 25 February 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of awards and nominations received by Ivy Queen[edit]

List of awards and nominations received by Ivy Queen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): DivaKnockouts (talk) and ΛΧΣ21 03:17, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it meets the criteria. Originally included on the main Ivy Queen article. I then moved the list of award tables to a separate article while expanding the tables with more awards and nominations. The list follows the same style as List of awards and nominations received by Ricardo Arjona which is also listed as FL. Regards. DivaKnockouts (talk) and ΛΧΣ21 03:12, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Very well formatted and referenced. — Cirt (talk) 03:48, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 09:29, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • It's The New York Times.
    • Done.
  • Not sure about that image being suitable, despite the fact it's come from Commons, it looks like a screengrab which hasn't been licensed correctly.
    • Not done. Elaborate? This image is properly licensed.
      • I did elaborate. It's a screen grab. I don't believe the Commons licence is correct, how could a screen grab from a TV show be used under CC 2.0? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:33, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        • I don't believe it's a screen grab from a TV show? This is the image on Flickr from which it is taken, and the license is in fact Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic. — DivaKnockouts (talk) 17:38, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
          • But it even has a burnt-in URL in the bottom-left corner of the image.... I'm not happy with the licensing at Commons so I'm not happy with its use here. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:40, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Should "reggaetón" be capitalised or not? Be consistent. Same with the other music genres.
    • Done.
  • Does reggaetón have a diacritic or not? Be consistent.
    • Done.
  • she earned the "indisputable ..." - what did she earn? the title of indisputable...? I don't get this sentence.
    • Done.
  • "However, this became her only Premio Juventud so far" poor English. Would consider merging that with the previous sentence, something like "... her only Premio Juventud"...?
    • Done.
  • "Female and Tropical Airplay Song of the Year" is that a single category? This sentence is confusing for me.
    • Done.
  • Is it Ivy Queen or Queen? Be consistent with how you refer to her after the first mention.
    • Done.
  • I count 12 wins from 30 noms in the infobox, not consistent with the lead.
    • Done.
  • "Queen has received all the awards she was nominated for.[9]" bit of a stretch when she's got one nom only...
    • Done.
  • " she was nominated for." -> "for which she was nominated".
    • Done.
  • "two awards from twelve nominations" looks like 2 out of 11 to me.
    • Done.
  • Not sure why you need bold text in the refs.
    • Done.

The Rambling Man (talk) 13:44, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments! :) — DivaKnockouts (talk) 17:31, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 22:25, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment—I made some tweaks to the lede and should explain my addition of quotation marks around the award titles, something I do not do often. Reading this sentence, "...was awarded both Hot Latin Song of the Year, Female and Tropical Airplay Song of the Year, Female out of five total nominations she received for the song", the comma placements caught me off guard for a second. I think the quotation marks clarify that the ", Female" parts are in the names. Overall, the lede is well written and well structured. The fact that the infobox image shows her facing to the right is a bit of a pet peeve, so if you can replace that with an image facing towards the page, that would be nice. If you don't want to, it's OK; I'm only nit-picking. Also, why do some bundled citations only have one reference (8, 9, 12, 13, 14)? I'd remove the bullets. Finally, the number of nominations adds up to 31, not 32. Otherwise, good work. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 21:22, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, first off thank you for your comments and tweaks to the article :) The citations from 8 on are bundled by Award show, for some award show she was only nominated at one ceremony so only one reference is available. When you say remove the bullets, do you mean on all the citations or just 8, 9, 12, 13, 14? Also, are you sure your count brings up 31? Mines adds up to 32, counting the Infobox and independent sections they both add up to 32. Thanks again for your comments. — DivaKnockouts (talk) 21:42, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just on the citations mentioned. Yes, you're right. I checked my math: it's 32. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 22:12, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Alright! All done. Anything else? Thanks :) — DivaKnockouts (talk) 22:18, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support—a job well done. I have nothing else for now, but if I do, I'll let you know. Thanks for the prompt responses! —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 22:25, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
*" for her contributions to the music industry in the genres of " --> have a phonetic break by adding a comma "for her contributions to the music industry, in the genres of "
Done
  • and has become the "indisputable lead .... --> that quote starting from indisputable is a little too long to have it without ceritfying the autor or the publication quoting it, like you have attributed The New York Times quote.
    • Done
  • "which honored her for her musical career and is her only Premio Juventud thus far" --> "which honored the singer for her musical career and is her only Premio Juventud thus far"
    • Done
  • award from the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers --> award from the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAPS)
    • Done
  • " In 2009, "Dime" from the album Ivy Queen 2008 World Tour Live!, [7] became her most nominated work at a single Latin Billboard Music Award ceremony, where she was awarded both "Hot Latin Song of the Year, Female" and "Tropical Airplay Song of the Year, Female" out of five nominations she received for the song. Later in 2010, Ivy Queen received an award from the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers for "Urban Song of the Year" for "Dime"." ---> This whole block can be pretty hard to read, I will take a shot at makign the flow better, how about " In 2009, "Dime" from the album Ivy Queen 2008 World Tour Live!, became her most nominated work at the Latin Billboard Music Award ceremony. She was awarded both "Hot Latin Song of the Year, Female" and "Tropical Airplay Song of the Year, Female" out of five nominations for "Dime". Later in 2010, the song won Ivy Queen an award from the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAPS)for "Urban Song of the Year".
    • Done
  • Link BMI
    • Done
  • Sentimiento, nominated three times for three different awards ---> Just spare few words describing what Sentimiento is, like whetehr its a studio album, EP etc
    • Done
  • What are Flashback and Drama Queen? Again see previous for sparing a few words
    • Done
  • Overall, Queen has received 14 awards from 32 nominations ---> Specify uptill which point these noms and awards are true, like As of February 2013.....
    • Done
  • WP:ACCESS required for the tables.
    • Will get to this.
      • I think I have dealt with this. Regards. — ΛΧΣ21 03:29, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        • NOt quite there. I have made one change to the GLAAD award ceremony, you can follow this throughout.
  • Use en-dash throughout the article.
    • Done
  • Ref 5, when you are using that Billboard Google magazine link, i.e. a physical magazine, you need volume, issue, page no, issn etc.
    • Done
  • About.com is not a reliable source for featured content.
    • Done
  • Use {{cite news}} when its a news article like ref 1
    • Done
      • There is no need to use any citation template as a requirement. Just to note. — ΛΧΣ21 03:21, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        • Citation templates will always be advisable over bare formatted links, in fear of linkrot. No two qualms about it. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The award description one liners need references. The awards are notable and has WP pages, but their one liner description cannot be without reference, and fails FL?1
  • Also, if you are archiving all the references, follow this throughout, I saw two of them don't archive
    • Done
      • There is no requirement to archive all the sources, although it is recommended. — ΛΧΣ21 03:21, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        • You are correct that there is no requirement to archive references, however, DivaKnockout has indeed archived most of the references, why not the first few? Its a consistency issue mostly.
          • I only archived the most important. (The awards and the older articles) — DivaKnockouts (talk) 05:59, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Billboard Latin Music Awards or Latin Billboard Music Award? Which is the correct name and italic format?
    • Done
      • Question, you are not italicizing Billboard down the line. So again a consistency issue?
        • Done
  • You are using both Ivy Queen and Queen. Stick to one format.
    • Done
      • The last line of the lead
        • Done
  • LO Nuestro or Premio Lo Nuestro?
    • Done
  • Any reason why the awards are not alphabetically sorted? I see the awards in each and every FL like this to be sorted
  • Same goes for the infobox
    • See above
      • Firstly, if GLAAD is the most important award, following your logic, why doesn't the infobox reflect that? They should be sorted as per the awards in the actual list. Also, the recognition writeup in the lead starts with the Premios Juventud, however no mention of the GLAAD awards or the Premios Furia Musical? And if GLAAD awards are the most important you need to put it in perspective as to why they are important. I guess if she's a gay icon or something in that line that needs to be reflected in the lead.
        • No, she is not a gay icon, she is a heterosexual women. The awards are ordered by importance, least importance to greatest importance with Latin Grammys being the greatest.— DivaKnockouts (talk) 05:59, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
          • Then why is it opposite in the infobox? Or rather, why doesn't the infobox follow this rule at all? The list and the infobox should be consistent.
            • Done
  • American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers Awards – I dont think you need to expand ASCAP, the short form is by which the awards are known, ala BMI.
    • Why not? There is no rule saying it shouldn't be expanded. — DivaKnockouts (talk) 05:59, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • Indeed there is no rule. However, the awards are known as ASCAP Awards and the association uses the short form, like CHR Awards, BMI Awards etc. And also, the consistency issue. If you are expanding it, then expand any short form you are using throghout the article.
        • They are expanded throughout the article.
          • Not really. Check BMI Music Awards.
            • Alright, now, I believe everything has been addressed. Thank you. — DivaKnockouts (talk) 06:46, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose from IndianBioSupport – Seems a pretty comprehensive list. Here are few of my quabbles. I initially wanted to just comment and was almost gonna support, but found quite a few prose and MoS issues that I'm opposing for now. Let me know if these issues are fixed. I don't watch the nominations so ping me in my talk page. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 12:54, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your interesting input and comments. I appreciate them. — DivaKnockouts (talk) 18:34, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the prompt actions DivaKnockouts. For I have gone ahead and supported the list. Best wishes. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 06:51, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your review IndianBio :) — ΛΧΣ21 14:17, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 21:17, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • In the caption, both "Friday" and the th in 16th are unneeded, and I think the MoS discourages them.
  • Billboard Latin Music Awards: Remove "the" before Billboard.
  • Broadcast Music, Inc. Awards: En dash in "most–performed" should be a regular old hyphen instead.
  • Premios Juventud: "anually" → "annually".
  • This award and the next one are inconsistent in whether "the" comes before "television network". Minor, but worth fixing all the same.
  • GLAAD Media Awards: Remove "the" before "one nomination"? Same could be done for the next two awards.
  • People's Choice Reggaeton and Urban Awards: "and awarded annually by the public". "and" → "are". Giants2008 (Talk) 01:32, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lead image could use alt text.
  • It's not showing up to the readers. Try decapitalizing Alt in the infobox parameter; I've seen that cause problems before. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:17, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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