Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of birds of Tuvalu/archive2

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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 1 January 2023 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of birds of Tuvalu[edit]

Nominator(s): AryKun (talk) 15:30, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is the second nomination of this list for FLC. I had to abandon the last nom because I didn't really have much time to edit WP the last couple of months, but hopefully I'll be able to see this through this time. I've incorporated suggestions from last time into the article, so pinging Pseud 14 and The Rambling Man, who reviewed this during the last FLC. AryKun (talk) 15:30, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dank[edit]

Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
"from 2,500–3,500 mm": Is that right? A previous reviewer mentioned that it might average 3500 cm. I couldn't check because the source link to the PDF seems to be dead for me.
- The link is working for me, but the relevant part of the article says "Annual rainfall ranges from 2500 mm in the northern islands to 3500 mm in the south, mostly occuring as heavy showers". AryKun (talk) 12:52, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thx for checking on it. FWIW, the link (to a Fiji url) still isn't coming up for me. - Dank (push to talk) 14:28, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Checking the FLC criteria:
1. I've done a little copyediting; feel free to revert or discuss. There are no sortable columns. I sampled the links.
2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
3b. I normally look at the sources at this point, but the dead link (above) is a concern. I'll come back and take another look after the source review has been completed.
3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
4. It is navigable.
5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
6. It is stable.
Close enough for a support for now, but I'll come back and take another look after the source review. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 17:58, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I got nothing, great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:38, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MeegsC[edit]

There's a dotted underline under "genera", but nothing (other than a question mark) appears if you hover over it. What's supposed to happen?
- The one that I added in this edit says "plural of genus" when I hover. Possibly Template:tooltip is malfunctioning for your machine, or possibly you've disabled tooltips in some preference or gadget. - Dank (push to talk) 21:47, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, the tooltip shows up for me too, maybe it's an issue on your device.
"Thirteen of these species breed on Tuvalu, nine of which are seabirds." There's a misplaced clause here. Grammatically, it should be "Thirteen of these species, nine of which are seabirds, breed on Tuvalu."
- Changed.
"species of shorebird" but "species of seabirds"? Either both should be plural or neither should.
- Changed both to singular.
You say some species are "migratory visitors", but they're marked as A, which indicates accidental. These don't mean the same thing; perhaps "accidental visitors" or "occasional visitors" or "migratory overshoots" or some such to indicate they're not regular migrants?
- The source says "The migrant species include eight species of shorebird, nine further species of seabirds, as well as the Mallard and the Long-taild Cuckoo.", which seems to say that mallards are a visiting species, if only occasionally. The accidental tag later on is there because Avibase uses it, so I'm not sure which source you would go with.
The second paragraph uses "the birds of Tuvalu" (or "in Tuvalu" or "on Tuvalu") a lot. Maybe vary the structure by saying "on (or in or of) the islands" instead once or twice?
- Reworded.
It would be great if this list said something about these birds other than that they're sometimes present on the island. The family introductory bits talk about species not even found on the island (Roadrunners? Snowcocks?!) but you don't tell us whether the listed species common and widespread, or only found in specific areas. Are the breeders colonial? Only found in the native forests? Widespread on the coasts? Cliff dwellers? It would sure be more useful with more information.

MeegsC (talk) 19:34, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- The introductions are meant primarily as a descriptions of those families. I've tried to add specific information about species in those families when it's available, but except for the buff-banded rail, none of the species have particularly interesting aspects to their biogeographies.

MeegsC, I've replied to your comments. AryKun (talk) 11:11, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
MeegsC, reminder in case you've forgotten about this. AryKun (talk) 15:41, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The list certainly matches other bird lists that are currently rated FL. Though I'll repeat that right now, other than the information that "this bird has been found in the country at least once", there isn't really anything said about their numbers, where and when they're found, etc. And I guess I question how useful that really is. MeegsC (talk) 21:29, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --Pres N 17:43, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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