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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 20:06, 18 December 2011 [1].

List of colleges and universities in Minnesota[edit]

List of colleges and universities in Minnesota (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Ruby comment! 05:19, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I've worked very hard in the past month entirely overhauling the article into a hopeful FL (collecting data from reliable sources, organizing it into a table, and deciding what to include in lead). This especially inspired me to work on my own state. I wish all 50 lists would eventually become as complete. Thanks in advance for your comments. Ruby comment! 05:19, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 16:22, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • Lead image(s) could use alt text.
  • It's not showing up for me, although it's possible that it's just my computer. Anyone else having the same problem? Giants2008 (27 and counting) 11:11, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • If U of M is going to be used as an abbreviation, that should be included in parenthetical form after the original use, in order to avoid any confusion for the readers.
  • To fill the blank spaces in the Accreditation column, consider dashes of some type.
  • In note 5, is Rasmussen Colleges intended to be plural? It isn't in the table.
  • I corrected it (minor typo on my part). Ruby 2010/2013 03:02, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • En dashes are needed in the page ranges of refs 11, 70, and 86.
  • More en dashes would be useful in the titles of refs 2, 6, 15, 19, 23, 24, 37, 56, 65, 66, 85, and 109–114. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 18:25, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • TheRamblingMan was nice enough to run a script through it; they all look good now Ruby 2010/2013 23:23, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The script missed the ones still left in 2 and 24, though it did a nice job on the rest of them. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 16:22, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 12:03, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • No need for period in infobox image caption.
  • Postsecondary in our own article is hyphenated.
  • Is fall capitalised or not? Not in the lead, is in the table col heading.
  • Are all these institutions inherently notable? If so, they should be red-linked if no article exists.
  • Would prefer to see None under accreditation for those with no accreditation.
  • Defunct table could be sortable.
  • PDF links should have format=pdf

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:03, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for your comments. They have all now been addressed. Ruby 2010/2013 23:23, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Albacore (talk) 02:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments:
  • On my viewing platform the text "There are nearly 200" are even with the three stacked photos. I'd use {{clear}} just after the photos.
  • Putting the template there didn't work, so I put it before the images. How does it look now? Ruby 2010/2013 01:47, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • majority of Minnesota's post-secondary institutions are accredited, 22 are accredited, Most are accredited. Dull, repetitious prose with "accredited". Possibly reword?
  • I agree, but there really isn't a better synonym for accredited that doesn't change the meaning. I reworded one of the sentences to say "accreditation" (similar I know, but hopefully it switches it up a little). Ruby 2010/2013 01:47, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delink "higher education", common term
  • No scope row or scope col tags on the "Institutions" list?
  • No scope col tags on the "Defunct institutions" list.

Support Albacore (talk) 02:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review and support. I tweaked the edit you made to the image template. Personally I like the image box there (after the lead text), but let me know if it looks odd. Ruby 2010/2013 02:26, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - This is a very good list, and appears to be on-par with similar featured lists. This statement in the lead has no reference: "While the University of Minnesota was chartered by the state in 1851, it did not operate as a place of higher education for nearly two decades." I'd say that needs a citation. I'm still going through the sources/links. AstroCog (talk) 20:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ref 32 appears dead or broken. I'd say, it's best to used archived versions of websites for the links.

Breakdown of featured list criteria:

  • Prose: prose is good and it's straight-forward and to the point.
  • Lead: the lead defines inclusion in the list and provides appropriate context.
  • Comprehensiveness: this article appears to be comprehensive - I couldn't find any obvious omissions.
  • Structure: This list is structured appropriately and is easy to navigate.
  • Style: appropriate colors and citation style. Very few red-links. I think the image gallery could be placed differently - it just sort of dangles off the bottom of the lead. Can it be right justified to be located next to the lead text?
  • Stability: no apparent edit warring. List is curated by a single editor, who is maintaining it well.

I'd say just clean up the broken link and fix the placement of the image box and I'll be happy to support this nomination. AstroCog (talk) 20:19, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the review. I moved the image box back to its original spot, and fixed the link issue (I added an archive link so the problem doesn't arise again). The U of M statement you mentioned was actually cited in the following ref, but I moved it around so now both sentences are now clearly referenced. Thanks again, Ruby 2010/2013 21:35, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good job. You've got my support. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 21:41, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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