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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 23:32, 18 January 2018 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of international goals scored by Lionel Messi[edit]

List of international goals scored by Lionel Messi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Saksapoiss (talk), The Rambling Man (talk) 09:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I fell over this article which was in an awesome condition, thanks to the hard work of Saksapoiss, so I suggested he nominate it at FLC. After a few tweaks of my own to try to get it into our usual "house style", we're co-nominating it. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:18, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from BeatlesLedTV (talk) 17:20, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Nothing else. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

All comments addressed and/or responded to above BeatlesLedTV, cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:23, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support – All good for me. Happy to support. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 17:20, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – I would recommend a copyedit to first few sentences in the lead to:
"Lionel Messi is an association footballer who plays as a forward the Argentina national team. Since debuting for Argentina in 2005, Messi has scored 61 goals in 123 international appearances,[1] making him the country's all-time top scorer, surpassing Gabriel Batistuta's record, with a free kick against United States in the semi-final of Copa América Centenario on 21 June 2016.[2][3] He made his debut for Argentina in a 2–1 away win over Hungary on 17 August 2005[4] and scored his his first international goal a year later, in his fifth appearance for his country, against Croatia.[5]"
I think this directs the reader's focus on the international goals and flows well with the rest of the lead. Hmlarson (talk) 01:24, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Hmlarson, I've revised per your suggestion. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:36, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – I made some additional copyedits to the lead + added alt tags to two images. References and list format look good. Hmlarson (talk) 19:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmlarson thanks for your edits and your support. If there are any such lists related to women's soccer that we could work on together, or even ones I could just encourage you to nominate on your own, don't hesitate (e.g. List of international goals scored by Kelly Smith...) ! Cheers, The Rambling Man (talk) 20:30, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Funny, I was just exploring other players to work on. List of international goals scored by Christine Sinclair is the only other one I'm aware of currently. On quick glance, the table needs some formatting work and the lead needs expanding - let me know if collaborating on this one might be of interest. One for Smith would be a great addition; Mia Hamm and Marta also came to mind. I'll add them to my list of things to work on. Thanks The Rambling Man. Hmlarson (talk) 20:44, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hey Hmlarson, they all sound cool to me, I'm sure you can cope with each nomination on your own though! But if you'd prefer a co-nom (I've got a bit of a clue at FLC), then that's great too. And I love researching the goals etc, for independent RS. Pick one (maybe Sinclair?) and let's go to town on it. Cheers, The Rambling Man (talk) 20:47, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Messi, Lionel". National Football Teams. Archived from the original on 23 August 2017. Retrieved 12 October 2017.
  2. ^ "Lionel Messi breaks Argentina's all-time goal-scoring record". ESPN. 22 June 2016. Archived from the original on 22 June 2016. Retrieved 22 June 2016.
  3. ^ "Messi, máximo artillero histórico de la selección argentina". FIFA (Spanish). 22 June 2016. Archived from the original on 27 June 2016. Retrieved 22 June 2016.
  4. ^ Vickery, Tim (22 August 2005). "Messi Handles 'New Maradona' Tag". BBC Sport. Archived from the original on 9 August 2015. Retrieved 12 August 2015.
  5. ^ Mamrud, Roberto. "Lionel Andrés Messi – Century of International Appearances". Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation. Archived from the original on 8 September 2015. Retrieved 12 August 2015.
  • Support – The text reads fine, table looks good, and the references all appear concise and appropriate. I did one very minor edit (swapped over the sequence of two references above the list of goals table), but I don't see anything now to hold this back from getting FL status. ShugSty (talk) 17:54, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Courcelles (talk) 19:55, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
*"He has scored five times in the FIFA World Cup finals,[1] once in 2006 and four times in 2014, when he guided his team to the final" I'm a bit confused here. Argentina didn't reach the final in 2006?
  • They did in 2014, which is what that sentence is saying. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:07, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • The first clause says they did, however, saying he scored once in 2006 in the finals? Courcelles (talk) 19:04, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Courcelles Ah, by "finals", FIFA and the rest of us don't mean "the final", we mean the final actual tournament at which only those who have qualified from around the world participate. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:42, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        • Well, that's just plum confusing using it in two different contexts in the same sentence. Suppose it works in BritEng, though. Courcelles (talk) 19:45, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
          • No, it's not really, well not for me... finals and final are very specifically different. There's only one "final" in each set of World Cup "finals", distinguishing those matches from "qualifying". The Rambling Man (talk) 19:47, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
          • FWIW, I changed "finals" to "tournaments", but face the wrath of those who would suggest that qualifying games are all part of the bigger "tournament". Oh well, can't please all the people all the time... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:50, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Courcelles, thanks, I've addressed and responded to your comments above. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:07, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 21:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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