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The list was promoted by User:Scorpion0422 23:27, 30 December 2008 [1].

List of tallest buildings in Vancouver[edit]

Another tallest-buildings in city list. I am nominating this after a large expansion of the list, which includes adding references, new sections, an introduction and a general cleanup. Any issues listed here will be resolved. Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 19:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Since I believe Hydrogen Iodide is busy with his finals, I will be responding to all the comments and concerns. I will NOT take credit for this nomination. Thanks. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from SRX

Weak Oppose - its been awhile since this type of list wast at FLC, needs a few fixes

  • This list of tallest buildings in Vancouver ranks skyscrapers in the Canadian city of Vancouver, British Columbia by height. - FLs are discouraged to begin with "This is a list of ____"
    • Done reworded lead sentence. Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 18:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The tallest building in Vancouver is the 62-story, 201 metres (659 ft) Living Shangri-La. - it would be better if the comma was replaced with and
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 05:58, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The second-tallest building in the city is One Wall Centre, at 48 stories and standing 150 m (492 ft) tall. - how about The second-tallest building in the city is One Wall Centre, standing at 150 m (492 ft) tall with 48 stories. or The second-tallest building in the city is One Wall Centre, containing 48 stories at 150 m (492 ft) tall.
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 06:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The skyscraper has the distinction of being the first building in the world to use a tuned liquid column damper to control wind vibrations. - you introduced 2 skyscrapers in the intro, which one are you referring to here?
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 05:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • A ten year lull in building construction came after the boom. However, beginning in 1991 and continuing into the present, Vancouver went on a second, much larger building boom. ---> A ten year lull in building construction came after the boom, however, beginning in 1991, and continuing into the present, Vancouver went on a larger second building boom.
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 06:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the notes: This building is also known as the[46] Hyatt Regency Hotel. - what is ref 46 verifying?
    • Done Whoops, this was a misplaced footnote. Moved it to the correct spot. Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 06:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • For the proposed, approved, under construction section, you should use the current month, current day, current year templates in the prose to verify as of when the status is to date.
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 06:47, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the note section, the note should have a bullet.
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 06:03, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't like how only 2 publishing sources are used: Emporis and Skyscraperpage, there needs to be more variation in the sourcing.--SRX 21:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
I found two references from the city of Vancouver. Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 02:53, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But you didn't use them in the list, I don't see them used in the references.--SRX 16:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Done, added references to sources other than Emporis and SkyscraperPage (I wasn't done yet when I left the above message). Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 02:04, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - all problems fixed to comply with WP:WIAFL.--SRX 02:39, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC) [reply]
Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • "The Canadian city of Vancouver contains the tallest buildings of British Columbia. " Seems a bit too artificial to me. Why not a couple general sentences that establishes notability and context: "Vancouver is the largest city in British Columbia, Canada. It has [insert number of buildings over 100 m] buildings over 100 metres (328 ft)."
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 17:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The hotel, standing at 111 m (364 ft) tall, is the first building to exceed 100 m (328 ft) in the city."-->The hotel, standing at 111 m (364 ft) tall, was the first building to have stood taller than 100 m (328 ft) in the city.
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 17:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A ten year lull" Hyphenate "ten year".
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 17:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Vancouver went on a larger second building boom."-->Vancouver experienced a larger second building boom.
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 17:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Vancouver also saw the completion of One Wall Centre and Living Shangri-La, the city's first building to break 150 m (492 ft) and 200 m (656 ft) mark, respectively."-->"Vancouver also saw the completion of One Wall Centre and Living Shangri-La, the city's first buildings to break the 150 m (492 ft) and 200 m (656 ft) marks, respectively.
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 17:33, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Vancouvers' "-->Vancouver's.
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 17:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "As of December 2008, there are 597 highrise buildings in Vancouver." Shouldn't "highrise" be hyphenated? You might want to define that for this list, high-rise buildings are those that stand taller than 100 metres (328 ft).
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 17:37, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The tallest development taking place in Vancouver is the Ritz-Carlton Vancouver."-->The tallest development that is under construction in Vancouver is the Ritz-Carlton Vancouver.
    • Done Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 17:38, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • What do the equal signs in the Rank column signify? Dabomb87 (talk) 04:18, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Two or more buildings that have the same height are equal in ranking in these tallest buildings lists. Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 17:41, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC) What makes the following sources reliable? Please understand that I am not skeptical of their reliability, but since they make up the bulk of the referencing, we need to be absolutely sure that what they say is true.[reply]

Dabomb87 (talk) 04:18, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Building statistics on both of these sites are checked and verified before they are posted online. Cheers. Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab 17:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment

Coming from an FLC where there was intense focus upon a perceived dissonance between list title and contents, I notice some dissonance here, too. To parallel some reviewer dictums elsewhere, I think i should vehemently oppose this list-article unless it is renamed to clearly cover all 3 lists that it contains, e.g. call it "List of tallest buildings in Vancouver by height, list of tallest under construction, approved and proposed, and list of something else".  :) Otherwise, nice list! :) (In case it is not obvious, I do not oppose this list.) doncram (talk) 05:09, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it will be kind of absurd to have such a long name. Besides, the article won't be consistent with the other related articles. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 04:05, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24
Comments

*According to Emporis.com, you are missing some buildings.

The other buildings were not over 100m, but rounded up to 100m. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "It has 41 buildings..." --> "Vancouver has 41 buildings..."
DONE -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the Dominion Building image, the caption, "The Dominon Building was the tallest building in the British Empire upon its completion." needs a reference.
DONE -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Vancouver witnessed its first building boom." first building boom? please be more specific.
Changed to expansion. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is the word boom appropriate for its using?
I really don't know how to answer my own question, but I replaced it with expansion. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there a reference for the note?
Removed. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comments
    • "is the 62-story and 201 metres (659 ft) Living Shangri-La" needs to be reworded; 201 Metres is not an adjective. I think the template is forcing the s. Also, since the rest of the artile uses the abbreviation m, this should be changed to be consistent.
    DONE -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "A ten-year lull in building construction came after the boom, however, beginning in 1991, and continuing into the present, Vancouver experienced a larger second building boom" needs to be rewritten.
    I replaced "beginning in 1991, and continuing into the present" to "since 1991". The rest I will ask someone to copy-edit the article. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Vancouver also saw the completion of One Wall Centre and Living Shangri-La" sounds weird because this is already about Vancouver. It saw the completion of every one of these buildings.
    Changed it with "One Wall Centre and Living Shangri-La are..." -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Could the image in the lead could be used as the large panorama?
    Nope, since it isn't an actual panorama. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • The rank, height, and year columns need to be centered for all tables. To save time I'm sure there's a way this can be done in the tabletop rather than in every cell.
    If there is, I should know, since I am very familiar with tables, but I'm sure there isn't a way this can be done in the tabletop
    • You could add a few more pics to the side if you want.
    DONE -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • The Note should be incorporated into the Tallest buildings lead and it may require a source.
    I removed it because I couldn't find a reliable source for that kind of information. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 10:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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