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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:32, 11 September 2017 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Margaret discography[edit]

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Nominator(s): ArturSik (talk) 22:09, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The article consists of all her releases accompanied with albums/singles main charts. Everything is referenced. The lead includes the most important information about her releases. ArturSik (talk) 22:09, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:38, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "certified platinum " there should be a link to record certification here.
 Done
  • Lead is a little weak, seems to cover the albums and their singles, but nothing else, e.g. EPs, promos...
I'll try to expand it later in the week. ps. the EP is mentioned.
 Done
  • This will need to be updated in a week or so once Monkey Business gets its own article and charts (if it does)...
that will be updated
  • Release dates aren't referenced.
I haven't seen release dates being referenced before, these are included in separate articles about the album/single. is it necessary ?
Yes, FLs need those dates to be referenced inline. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:05, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
 Done
  • "6 in the Morning" not referenced.
 Done
  • "Other recorded songs" has two named albums. What are those?
these are charity albums.

The Rambling Man (talk) 09:49, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ArturSik are you planning on addressing these issues? The Rambling Man (talk) 07:22, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man Yes, sorry, my computer crashed, I'll get it done by the end of the week. ArturSik (talk) 11:09, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man all releases are now referenced. ArturSik (talk) 21:09, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Aoba47
  • Please use a better description for the ALT text, instead of "Refer to caption".
 Done
  • I would spell out "extended play" out in the first sentence with (EP) in parenthesis following it.
 Done
  • I would identify in the first sentence of the second paragraph that "Just the Two of Us" is a collaborative album with Matt Dusk. You identify a collaborative album in the first sentence of the first paragraph, but it is odd that Matt Dusk is not mentioned in the lead at all, and the sentence (Her first two studio albums, Add the Blonde (2014) and Just the Two of Us (2015), were both certified platinum in Poland by the Polish Society of the Phonographic Industry (ZPAV).) makes the album sound like a solo album as you are grouping it with Add the Blonde.
 Done
  • The sentence "All three of them were released only into the Polish market (except for "Wasted" which was also released in Scandinavia)" seems rather silly (i.e. to see everything is one way except for one). I would say something along the lines of "The first songs were released exclusively in the Polish market, while "Waste" was also released in Scandinavia".
 Done
  • Please identify that "Cool Me Down" was a single from the re-release of Add the Blonde when you first mention it. It is a little confusing to say all of the bits about its commercial performance before identifying where the song was from.
 Done
  • I would try to condense some of the information on "Cool Me Down" as it seems to take up a lot more space in the lead than the other singles and has some undue weight issues. There also seems to be a lot of attention placed on Add the Blonde over the other two albums and her other work, which also raises concerns over undue weight issues.
 Done
  • Eliminate "In the meantime" as it is informal and does not add much to the sentence.
 Done
  • I would add an English translation for "Coraz bliżej święta".
 Done
  • Please identify where the promotional singles mentioned in the last sentence of the second paragraph are coming from. Are they from the re-issue of Add the Blonde, are they non-album singles, from other people's albums, soundtracks, etc.? I was a little confused by this part.
 Done
  • I would add a brief sentence mentioning the singles released from Just the Two of Us. Even though they did not chart, their existence should be mentioned.
 Done
  • Identify the release year for "6 in the Morning".
 Done
  • I do not see any information from the "Other recorded songs" section/chart mentioned in the lead. Same goes for the music videos. I would parts about this in the lead.
  • In Reference 17, do not put the title in all caps (even if it appears that way in the actual source). Same goes for References 49 and 55.
 Done

You have done good work with this list. My review is primarily concerned with the prose in the lead. While I have identified quite a few prose concerns with the lead, I believe that this can revised and made into an excellent FL. I will do another read-through once my comments are addressed. Hopefully, this FLC will get more attention in the future, as it would be a shame to see this archived due to lack of activity. Aoba47 (talk) 19:09, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba47 Hi, thank you for your input. I believe that I have addressed most of your comments, however I'm not too sure what I could write about music videos. ArturSik (talk) 19:18, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Everything looks good to me. Thank you for addressing my comments. I will support this for promotion. Aoba47 (talk) 19:23, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look at this tomorrow. – FrB.TG (talk) 21:50, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • "three studio albums (including one collaborative), one extended play (EP), thirteen singles (including two as a featured artist), three promotional singles. and thirty-three music videos (including two as a featured artist)" lets let infobox do this. Having both this and infobox are repetitive.
  • " "Wasted" (2014), "Start a Fire" (2014) and "Heartbeat" (2015). The first songs were released" which first ones?
 Done
  • "2015 saw the release of " it looks a little weird to start a sentence with a number. Perhaps better as "the year 2015 saw.."?
 Done
  • "Margaret's second studio album, Just the Two of Us, recorded in a collaboration with Matt Dusk, which consisted of jazz standards" - which is unneeded there or it should be "..Us, which was recorded in ... Dusk, consisted".
 Done
  • "its title track and the song "'Deed I Do"" => "the title track and "Deed I Do"".
 Done
  • " In 2016, Margaret released the reissue of her debut album Add the Blonde" => "In 2016, Margaret reissued her debut album". I would also remove the name of the album as the reader is made aware of it in the opening of the second paragraph.
 Done
  • "The latter peaked at number twenty-one in Poland" - one would have to read two sentences back. Giving the name instead of 'the latter' would be better.
 Done
  • "Margaret featured on "Let It Snow!" from Old School Yule! by Matt Dusk (2016), which was released as a single" => "Margaret featured on the single "Let It..." – FrB.TG (talk) 15:33, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
 Done
  • Support but I still feel the opening sentence counting the number of her albums and singles or the infobox need to go, quite repetitive to have both at the same time. Other than that I believe the list satisfies the FL criteria. A nicely put together list. – FrB.TG (talk) 18:03, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
FrB.TG but isn't it what all discographies begin with? ArturSik (talk) 21:49, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think the opening would be better as something like: Polish singer and songwriter began her career/rose to prominence. See Taylor Swift discography for example, a featured list, no number of her works in prose. Just an infobox in right, which makes it quite useful, but the same can't be said about this article at the moment. – FrB.TG (talk) 21:57, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
 Done
Comments by PresN
  • "released three studio albums (including one collaborative)" - for both of these asides, I'd drop the "including", so just "released three studio albums (one collaborative)" and "thirteen singles (two as a featured artist)"
 Done
  • "The first songs were released exclusively in the Polish market, while "Wasted" was also released in Scandinavia." - seems incorrect, since "Wasted" was actually the first song you listed, and it's the second and third that were Poland-only.
 Done
  • "In 2016, Margaret released the reissue of her debut album Add the Blonde" - you already mentioned that it was the debut album; should be "In 2016, Margaret released a reissue of Add the Blonde"
 Done
  • "Siemacha po kolędzie and Gwiazdy po kolędzie (released, respectively, in 2014 and 2015)" -> "Siemacha po kolędzie (2014) and Gwiazdy po kolędzie (2015)"
 Done
  • Also, you later translate her other Polish titles, why not these two?
I don't really think they can be translated as "po kolędzie" is a Polish custom and I couldn't find its translation anywhere online, so I could either get rid of all translations for consistency or leave it as it is. ArturSik (talk) 15:09, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd like to see English translations of titles in the tables as well, unless there's a standard against that
I could do that it's not a problem but it doesn't really good look in the tables if I have to be honest. I could add them in a note though if you'd want me to.
  • Note A needs a citation (if that's ref 29, just include it here too)
 Done
  • Note J needs a citation (same as above for ref 50)
 Done
  • Not doing a source review, but there's a couple instances of ALLCAPS that should get fixed (POPHEART.pl, MARGARET)
 Done

--PresN 17:13, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support --PresN 01:15, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
FrB.TG PresN Hey guys, I think I've addressed all your comments now or at least most of them. Have a look :) ArturSik (talk) 15:09, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging FrB.TG again. --PresN 03:09, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As it looks to me that the one outstanding comment was addressed, and we haven't heard back from FrB.TG (who supported anyway), I'm going to go ahead and promote the list in a moment. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:03, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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