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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 09:24, 25 August 2008 [1].

National Basketball Association awards[edit]

previous FLC (07:14, 11 August 2008)

I am re-co-nominating this article with Chrishomingtang because we still believe that this article is ready for this promotion. The reason why this article lacks pictures is because we both cannot find any that we can use that isn't non-free content. I am also re-nominating this article because of the lack of comments on the last one and I hope that more of the FLC reviewers will look more into this FLC. -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 09:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Killervogel5
  • There are several years which aren't linked at their first occurrence. For example, 1947 is in the lead but not linked until the "History" section. 1949 is not linked at all. Neither is 1975
DONE! -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 21:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "First awarded in the 1956," - remove the.
DONE! -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 21:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "first awarded in the inaugural NBA Finals in 1947." - first awarded after the Finals; it's not awarded during the game.
DONE! -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 21:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If the trophy was not named the Walter Brown trophy until 1964, then it should not be referred to as such at the beginning of the paragraph. Did it have another name before that (e.g., NBA Championship Trophy, etc.)?
DONE! -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 21:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The only individual award in the NBA Finals is the Finals Most Valuable Player" - follow by a comma.
DONE! -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 21:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Center the numbers in the "Created" column of the second table to match the first table.
DONE! -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 21:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change the link on "commissioner" so that it links to the section of the article on commissioners in sports; otherwise, the link doesn't make much sense.
DONE! -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 21:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Review by KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 13:14, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • New comment: References for awards should go to league-independent sources if at all possible, to pass the independent sources requirement of WP:N.
Check if the one I put on works. -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 23:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly does, it was the one I was hoping for. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on!
  • "the Most Valuable Player is presented to the most valuable player of the regular NBA season." - you use the term "MVP" (abbreviation mine) to define itself. Can you expand on what MVP means in the definition? Also, it should the Most Valuable Player award.
    • I think the readers will understand what most valuable player means so does it really need a brief definition?
      • A) I think it would be better to have a definition than a recursive definition; B) You have to remember that a list, and especially one that's going to be featured, should cover topics so that someone who knows nothing about basketball would not be confused by anything within it. For those reasons, yes, I believe that it does. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on!
Fixed.—Chris! ct 00:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good, but is there any reason that it's not referred to by its official name? I just checked the ref and the award's official name is apparently the "Maurice Podoloff Trophy". That should at least be mentioned. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 01:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Added —Chris! ct 21:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Killervogel5

Resolved comments from Crzycheetah 00:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • Why is the first table sortable? there are only two(!) items.
Done —Chris! ct 21:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Why do we need the See also section here? All necessary links are already in the templates.
DONE! -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 06:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I re-added the section with this link since it is not in the template.—Chris! ct 21:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why is that link important? If that link is really that important, why isn't it listed in the template? --Crzycheetah 20:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, I will remove it.—Chris! ct 21:21, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done —Chris! ct 18:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Reference → References
DONE! -- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 06:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
--Crzycheetah 06:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Issues resolved, Ealdgyth - Talk 18:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Otherwise sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:46, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed —Chris! ct 18:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 19:27, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I know it's a little late in the day but I think I'd prefer to see the lead expanded and, possibly, subsume the History section. If this (as I suspect) is going to form the primary article in a Featured Topic then I think it ought to be downright amazing, rather than simply excellent and expanding the lead would help that enormously. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:43, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So you want me to merge the history section with the lead. Is that right?—Chris! ct 18:56, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the lead is very brief indeed. I was thinking that you could merge the history section with the lead but do it well... The Rambling Man (talk) 18:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. What do you think?—Chris! ct 19:02, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice. I just need to understand what note [A] means and I think I'm done. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The note is used to explain the voting system of that particular award.—Chris! ct 19:11, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm being dense perhaps but what do you mean by the "tenth" vote? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The award is usually determined by nine vote. but in at least one final, fans votes are counted as the "tenth" vote.—Chris! ct 19:19, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, can you reflect this in the note so I don't have to ask the question again? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:21, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just did. What do you think?—Chris! ct 19:23, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Top drawer. I'll sleep on it (tired) and no doubt it'll see success shortly...! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comment. —Chris! ct 19:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Great work on this list; I can't imagine it being put together better. Hello32020 (talk) 03:39, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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