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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 16:20, 18 August 2008 [1].

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The Fourteen Infallibles

It's a complete, well referenced and useful list.--Seyyed(t-c) 02:54, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

• Comments on the basics
  • "Twelver Shi'a" do you need to link each word separately? Your Twelver link redirects to Twelver Shi`ism anyway. Done
  • Don't think we need to link the historical to History.

The word is removed.

• • "are infallible which means " - "are infallible, meaning..."

I guess the problem has been solved.

• • Shia or Shi'a, be consistent.

 Done according to this consensus Shia is preferred.

• • "must only order that which is right" don't understand this. order what?

I changed it to they must only order what which is right. Is it correct?

No it's not. But the problem I have is I don't understand what you're trying to say. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

they must only order what is religiously correct or their order should be in accordance with Islam. or something like this.--Seyyed(t-c) 13:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC) Done

• • "Thus they are, the fourteen most pure ones" no need for that comma. Done
  • " doesn't mean " avoid contractions, "does not mean". Done
  • " prophets(Nabi) and the messengers(Rasul). " needs spaces before the opening parenthesis. Done
  • "encompasses the totality of all times. " hey?
    • In other words, what does this mean?

 Done I removed the sentence.--Seyyed(t-c) 13:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

• • "their attributes in numerous traditions." don't get this.  Done
    • What does this mean?

Is it OK?--Seyyed(t-c) 13:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

• • Is the number in the table of any relevance?

Yes, I think the number is relevant.

What is the relevance?

We can remove it, if it's necessary. --Seyyed(t-c) 13:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

• • For the columns which have two values and are separated by a horizontal bar, the heading should reflect that, e.g. "Birth–Death (CE/AH)[7]" should be "Birth-death CE/Birth-death AH" with the slash being replaced by a horizontal line. Done
  • One col is called "Title (Arabic/Turkish)" and for 1 it's "Rasul Allah (the Messenger of God)" and for 2 it's "Amir al-Mu'minin (Commander of the Faithful)[9]" and "Birinci Ali[10]" - which is Arabic/Turkish here? Confusing. Done
  • The table isn't sortable so avoid overlinking (e.g. Saudi Arabia is linked every time etc). Done
  • Two Reference sections? Done
  • "pp.48 and 49 " - pp. 48–49 is fine. Done
  • Use en-dash for page range, not hyphen. Done
  • encyclopedias, books - could use capitalising here. Done
  • Five external links really necessary after all the other references? Done
• The Rambling Man (talk) 10:21, 5 August

2008 (UTC)

I see no reason for this list. The imams are surely listed elsewhere (they deserve a list). That there are two more infallibles should not, it seems to me, matter much. Elsewhere there is surely a discussion of "infallibility" with a section on the Shi'ite doctrine. It is, of course, proper to mention that, in addition to the twelve Imams, Muhammad and Fatima are considered to be infallible. I am not sure how to do this in Wikipedia but the topic "The fourteen infallibles" should be reduced to a reference into the article of infallibility specifically at the place where Shi'ite doctrine is discussed.

The Fourteen Infallibles is a renown title and you can find list and article in notable sites.--Seyyed(t-c) 07:33, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

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