Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/United States congressional delegations from Connecticut/archive1

United States congressional delegations from Connecticut[edit]

Featured list candidates/United States congressional delegations from Connecticut/archive1

Nominator(s): Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is my first FLC! I thought Connecticut needed more featured lists :). This is a list of all the senators and representatives to Congress from Connecticut since it became a US state in 1788. The list is modeled after another similar featured list, United States congressional delegations from Hawaii. Please let me know any feedback you might have; thank you! Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MPGuy2824's comments

"Current U.S. representatives from Connecticut" should be a table caption and not a header. Same with the senator table.
Wikilink the first usage of "dean".
Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. !rowspan=2|Season becomes !scope=col rowspan=2|Season. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use !scope=colgroup instead. Same goes for row header cells, where the scope=row or rowgroup needs to be used.
Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
In the "United States Senate" table, what does the gray/white 3rd column (after the one showing the party color) signify?
Also, what does the "(PA)" next to Oliver Ellsworth's name stand for? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MPGuy2824 Hi! Thanks for your feedback!
- Headers converted to table captions - done!
- There isn't a good wikilink I can include for "dean", but I've added a clarification as to what it means, and included a wikilink to the similar page Dean of the United States House of Representatives - done, but might want clarification.
- It took me a bit but I think I added scopes to all the tables (although I may have missed something or messed up somewhere - is there a way to check?) - done for now.
- The gray/white 3rd column signifies the term that senator was serving (every six years). Made me realize I need to add footnotes for a lot more senators, so that's on my to-do list. How should I make the meaning of the gray/white bars clear?
- "(PA)" should mean Pro-Administration, legend is now fixed to represent that - done!
Thanks again for your feedback! Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The tables in the "United States House of Representatives" section still need table captions.

The colors in the "United States Senate" are still weird. e.g. looking at "Oliver Ellsworth (PA)". The color next to him is a green that isn't present in the legend above, and doesn't match the color for Pro-Administration, which is white.

What does (F) in "James Hillhouse (F)" stand for? Maybe you meant FS for Free Soil, but the color doesn't match.

Also, it should be !scope="col", not ! !scope="col" -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MPGuy2824 Hi, I believe I've fixed all the issues addressed in your last comment. Thanks for bearing with me - let me know if there's other issues that need fixing. In particular, here were the fixes applied:
Table captions added to "United States House of Representatives" section

All colors of senators should now be represented accurately in the legend.

(F) should stand for "Federalist Party" - missed including that in the legend.

Fixed that scope issue.

Thanks again, and have a great rest of your day. Staraction (talk | contribs) 04:53, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support promotion. P.S. With the table class setting that you have, anything in a header cell doesn't need to be explicitly bolded. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricanehink

Support! I also have an FLC about a state beginning with the letter C! So I figured I'd come here and review this one, especially since I enjoy politics. I compared the list to the three existing featured lists for state congressional delegations - Hawaii, Indiana, and Utah.

Is there an image for the top-right of the page? All of the other featured lists have that.
Somewhere you need to link U.S. state. Some people might never have heard of Connecticut, or believe it's even a real place. Context is important, and in general, I feel that the lead is far too short, compared to Indiana and Utah especially. The Utah list mentions, for example,

"Before the Seventeenth Amendment in 1913, senators were elected by the Utah State Legislature. Members of the House of Representatives are elected to two-year terms, one from each of Utah's four congressional districts."

Was that similar for Connecticut? Also, how many have there been? Utah's list also includes a total number, which is a useful bit of information you'd expect in a featured list, such as people who were both a representative and senator, the longest-serving member, a gender breakdown, the current dean of the state. That information should be in the lead. That's important for how Wikipedia's information is shown. On mobile, for example, you would see the lead, and then have to open up tabs to read more information.
I don't know if it's overkill, but considering the number of times that PVI is brought up, could you explain somewhere what that means, not just linking it in the first infobox for current U.S. senators?
"Connecticut has not had a Republican representative in Congress for more than a decade" - which begs me to ask, who was the last Republican? I think it's worth mentioning in the spirit of neutrality both in respect for party affiliation and historical context.
Just some general spotchecking, but could you tell me what is the reference for the historical list of senators? For example, that James Hillhouse was after Ellsworth.
There's nothing about how the representatives are voted for. Again, referring to Utah's list, there should be something like - "Members of the House of Representatives are elected every two years by popular vote within a congressional district... Connecticut has had five districts since 2003."

So that's it. I don't think any of the above should be that difficult, it's mostly me being nitpicky with what I expect out of a featured list. Please let met know if you have any comments, Staraction (talk · contribs). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricanehink Hi! Thanks for your feedback!

The image was included originally later on in the article, but I've moved it to the top right as suggested - done!
Wikilinked U.S. State in lead and expanded it - done!
Count included in lead - done!
I've included a new description about what CPVI is - done!
I originally included that information in a caption with Chris Shays' image, but I've included that in the body of the article too now - done!
[1] is the source, which is now included in a caption - done!
Included under United States House of Representatives - done!

Thanks again for your feedback, and best of luck on your own FLC! I did not even realize that Indiana and Utah had FLs for their congressional delegations - that will be super helpful to me in the future! Staraction (talk | contribs) 04:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick responses, that works great! Happy to support. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

"Prior to the Seventeenth Amendment," - say when this was
"Each state elects varying members of the House" => "Each state elects varying numbers of members of the House"
"is Representative Rosa DeLauro of the 3rd district, having served in the House since 1991" => "is Representative Rosa DeLauro of the 3rd district, who has served in the House since 1991" (in both body and lead)
"when Republican representative Chris Shays lost his race against Democrat Jim Himes in the state's 4th congressional district" => "since Republican representative Chris Shays lost his race against Democrat Jim Himes in the state's 4th congressional district"
"Connecticut's senators are elected in classes II and III" - what does this mean? Also, does this not conflict with the previous section, which said that Chris Murphy is a Class I senator?
Something seems amiss with the scope for the 50th Congress row -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude Hi, it should all be fixed. Thanks for your feedback! Staraction (talk | contribs) 15:44, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image review from Z1720[edit]

File:Richard Blumenthal Official Portrait (cropped).jpg: source link is a broken link, but I'm willing to AGF that this is still an image taken of a US employee for their official duties.
File:Oliver Ellsworth.jpg: This image is lacking source info, author info, and a PD-US tag. Unless this information is added, this should not be used in the article.
File:WalterBooth.jpg: same as above.
File:Clare boothe.jpg: needs a US-PD tag
File:Chris Shays official photo.jpg: links to the source both don't work (one links to a pink and black site with text in a different language) and I could not find the original image. I suggest using a different image or finding an archived version of the image.
Per MOS:UPRIGHT, images should use upright, not px, to be resized.
Per MOS:ALT, I recommend adding alt text to images.

Additional comments not related to images:

Per MOS:ALLCAPS the titles of sources should not have words in all caps.
Ensure all sources have the name of the author (Ref 23 and 31 are missing the author, but there might be others)

Those are my comments. Z1720 (talk) 15:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This might take me a few days, but I'm on it; thanks! Staraction (talk | contribs) 01:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]