Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Walter A. Brown Trophy/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 15:45, 16 August 2008 [1].

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Walter A. Brown Trophy

After cleaning up and thoroughly referencing this list, it meets all criterea. Comments will be addressed. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie » 15:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - As the lead is pretty stubby, it might be best to merge it with that stubby section of prose. Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 15:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:44, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

• Comments
  • Lead is too short.
  • Image caption... Unbold (or unlink) trophy name and remove full stop as it's a fragment of a sentence.
  • Did you try to sort the table? Not working at all under Safari/Mac OS X. I'd guess at the colspan being a problem.
  • Need a key. I presume bold+yellow+dagger (and all combinations thereof) means something that just plain uncoloured cells doesn't?
  • "basketball season" presumably you mean NBA season (i.e. other basketball teams may play outside that same season?)
  • You need to explain Eastern and Western Champion.
  • What was it called 1947–49?
  • Note A needs an en-dash.
  • Note B isn't grammatically correct.
  • "were also rewarded a newly designed trophy" - note C - also? What does that mean in the context of a stand-alone note?
  • Too much dependency on primary sources (i.e. NBA.com).
• The Rambling Man (talk) 16:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

• Questions
  • What was it called before the "trophy was renamed for Brown"?
  • And, less important and maybe obvious (but I don't know so I'm asking), who re-named it for Brown? Was it the team owners, the commissioner, or a board? maclean 18:22, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

The trophy was presumably unnamed before it was renamed for Brown. When I worked on the list NBA Awards, I can't find any references that indicate the trophy was named. As for your second question, I believe it was the NBA who renamed the trophy.—Chris! _ct 21:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

• Comments
  • Ref 37 doesn't verify note 3.—Chris! _ct 21:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I basically address every problem. But I can't really expand the lead anymore since that is everything I got from my research.—Chris! _ct 23:32, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

How about saying who won the Walter Brown trophy the most times? That's something that would be interesting to note since the table isn't sortable. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 16:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Added —Chris! _ct 21:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Can it be referenced? KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 21:29, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it needs reference since it can be easily verified by looking at the table.—Chris! _ct 22:42, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia can't be used as a reference for itself. It should be a simple matter of finding one from Basketball Reference. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 02:12, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Killervogel5

Comments from Killervogel5

Per the above, ref 11 needs publisher information.

NBA.com is a website, not a publisher. The actual publisher is the NBA. Remove the .com.

KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 16:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Done —Chris! _ct 21:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I think that there is still too high of a dependency on primary sources (31 refs out of 37, plus one without a publisher which I assume is also NBA.com).

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