Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Visoko in 1973
Visoko in 1973[edit]
Visoko is historical region where the first Bosnian state was formed. Picture shows Visoko valley where the kings were crowned and burried, and on the top of Visočica hill, once was medieval stronghold (where the bosnian kings ruled, and all around Visoko valley which was political and cultural centre of medieval Bosnia) built on Roman stronghold which was built on Ilyirian stronghold, and even some pepople think it is Bosnian Pyramid! Amazing. And it goes in even further, it shows building that were constructed during Austrohungarian monarchy, Yugoslavian kingdom, and SFRJ, Socialist, period. Pretty amazing for this, geographical small region;
It appears in Visoko and Bosnian Pyramid articles. It is also on wikicommons in article Visoko.
- Nominate and support. - HarisM 16:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Comment -- image has no source and is now pending deletion from Commons. howcheng {chat} 17:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Check again. Even the original photo has no copyright I put LGPL. Source is from towns library of Visoko. --HarisM 18:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- If you have some documentation proving this, you should add it to the image's talk page. howcheng {chat} 18:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Don't have any psyhical proof, as i got pictures on CD from man that works for home museum and library. He said that i can use any picture i find usefull for article that I wrote (Visoko). I must mention that picture was taken in time of SFRJ, in 1973. Maybe I'm wrong, but if the copyright was there (since i doubt, as there is no informations, and only information I got is that i can use pictures) it should expire. Ok, if anybody see this picture, and can prove that is copyrighted, i would be responsible, even in justice court in Bosnia or elsewere. Till then, i don't see reason for removing picture. --HarisM 18:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- You can't just declare it to be licensed under the LGPL because you aren't the creator (who is most likely the copyright holder). Now I don't know what the copyright laws in SFRJ were or how they transferred (if at all) to Bosnia-Herzegovina, but the most common form is that copyright expires 70 years after the creator's death. You don't have to register for copyright; it's automatic. So just because there's no information about the copyright doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. We worry about copyrights not just to cover our ass, but because the goal of Wikipedia and Wikimedia is to create a freely distributable encyclopedia that can be used by anyone for any purpose (including commercial). For this reason, this image is a prime candidate for deletion from Commons. What you need to do is (1) figure out the copyright laws in Bosnia for images taken during the SFRJ period; (2) figure out who the current copyright holder is (if any -- could be the library); (3) if the images are still under copyright, get the copyright holder to release them under a free license (public domain, GFDL, Creative Commons License -- BY or BY-SA). After all this is done, then come back and we'll talk about Featured Picture status. Yes, I understand that this is difficult, but it's important. howcheng {chat} 21:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, i will see then what can i do. Just, i realized mistake for LGPL, as i thought that covers only picture as GPL license, without making mention of creator. Once again my enlish wasn't on level. Probably, my source also doesent know who took photograph, i will ask, but i don't promise. As far for picture I know it wad redistributed in media in Visoko without any restrictions, so i thought it is okay, but in same time i wanted to make some kind of license, because putting it to no copyright would be too simple. If I don't find any information regarding creator of image, i will remove this candidate. I doubt I will, but I will ask. Thank you on comments at first. Cheers. --HarisM 22:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- You can't just declare it to be licensed under the LGPL because you aren't the creator (who is most likely the copyright holder). Now I don't know what the copyright laws in SFRJ were or how they transferred (if at all) to Bosnia-Herzegovina, but the most common form is that copyright expires 70 years after the creator's death. You don't have to register for copyright; it's automatic. So just because there's no information about the copyright doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. We worry about copyrights not just to cover our ass, but because the goal of Wikipedia and Wikimedia is to create a freely distributable encyclopedia that can be used by anyone for any purpose (including commercial). For this reason, this image is a prime candidate for deletion from Commons. What you need to do is (1) figure out the copyright laws in Bosnia for images taken during the SFRJ period; (2) figure out who the current copyright holder is (if any -- could be the library); (3) if the images are still under copyright, get the copyright holder to release them under a free license (public domain, GFDL, Creative Commons License -- BY or BY-SA). After all this is done, then come back and we'll talk about Featured Picture status. Yes, I understand that this is difficult, but it's important. howcheng {chat} 21:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Don't have any psyhical proof, as i got pictures on CD from man that works for home museum and library. He said that i can use any picture i find usefull for article that I wrote (Visoko). I must mention that picture was taken in time of SFRJ, in 1973. Maybe I'm wrong, but if the copyright was there (since i doubt, as there is no informations, and only information I got is that i can use pictures) it should expire. Ok, if anybody see this picture, and can prove that is copyrighted, i would be responsible, even in justice court in Bosnia or elsewere. Till then, i don't see reason for removing picture. --HarisM 18:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- If you have some documentation proving this, you should add it to the image's talk page. howcheng {chat} 18:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Check again. Even the original photo has no copyright I put LGPL. Source is from towns library of Visoko. --HarisM 18:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Weak support. I'm going to vote despite the copyright issues. I think this is historically significant and, with a caption, explains a great deal of the area's history. The biggest problem is that it isn't a clean scan; there is some dirt on the image, most apparent in the sky, and it's almost significant enough for me to weak oppose. --Tewy 23:39, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Not promoted