Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Wheelchair basketball

Wheelchair basketball[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 29 Mar 2012 at 10:57:30 (UTC)

Reason: High resolution, good framing, striking. Very encyclopedic, showing how one takes a shot
Articles in which this image appears: Wheelchair basketball, Euroleague Basketball
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Sport
Creator: PierreSelim

Support as nominator --Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:57, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Good composition and detail, and I suppose by wheelchair basketball standards, it's an action shot. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 11:58, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Tomer T (talk) 12:00, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good sports shot - would like to see some NR on the background though --Fir0002 02:56, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Valuable -- Jkadavoor (talk) 04:57, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support, tricky shot, well executed. So, this league is unisex? Is that common in wheelchair basketball? It doesn't seem to be the case, just based on our articles, in international play. Chick Bowen 03:37, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't see this as anything special. Poor focus in the image, ball OOF and with motion blur. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 18:58, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you explain me how can I shoot an indoor sport action with faster shutter speed (to have the ball in focus and not blurred)? I'm interested in improving but I was already at ISO 1600 and f/2.8. By the way thanks for the nomination and the kind comments. --PierreSelim (talk) 07:30, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify, by "poor focus in the image", I was refering to the compositional focus. What are we meant to look at in this shot? The 4 players are all looking in different directions. The 2 most important things are either blurred (ball) or not in the shot (hoop). A very messy background does not help things at all, either. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 10:00, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I don't know how to correct all your critics (IMO you are being too harsh). --PierreSelim (talk) 11:28, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I've done quite a bit of indoor sports, and you really are limited by the lighting in the gym. If f/2.8 with 1600 ISO lets you shoot around 1/60 (I'm guessing that's about the shutter speed you used, as the players are sharp but the ball is just blurred), the only way you can improve your shutter speed is to use a flash. Clegs (talk) 08:18, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The exposure time is 1/320 sec, as you can see in the image metadatas. You can also see that the photograph was 8m away from the action, meaning an external flash would be required. Léna (talk) 09:03, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose with a focal length of ~70mm, you could shoot with a Canon 85mm f/1.8 or 85mm f/1.2L wide open. You'd get a less motion-blurred ball but more out of focus players. I'm with the photographer on this one. Short of increasing the ISO and increasing noise, there was not much he could do here. A powerful external flash is also probably neither desirable or fair on the players. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 11:29, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Good capture of a dramatic moment, makes the most of lousy light, high encyclopedie value. I would have liked a bit more space on the left part of the pic, but in sports photography it's easier said than done; as is the players make a nice pyramidal composition echoing the shape of the wheelchair's wheels. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 13:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support The camera settings choice is correct in my view. The level of noise isn't objectionable. A fast prime might help a little, but would lose image stabilisation (which does help) and the flexibility in framing. JJ Harrison (talk) 22:36, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Euroleague - LE Roma vs Toulouse IC-27.jpg --Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]