Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Elements (miniseries)/1
Elements (miniseries)[edit]
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- Result: Kept Issues resolved during the review. AIRcorn (talk) 07:07, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
I've never requested reassessment of an article GA's status, so hopefully I'm doing this correctly. I feel that the 1,163-word plot summary in the article Elements (miniseries) is excessively lengthy and does not comply with manual of style guidelines, therefore violating one of the GA criteria (additionally, long synopses can also be found in the articles Stakes (miniseries) and Islands (miniseries), both of which also cover Adventure Time miniseries). While we're at this, I also think that the citations in this article should be double-checked for reliability, just in case. —Matthew - (talk) 17:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- I'm more than happy to cut down some of the plot. To be honest, while this is an issue, I don't really think it is major enough to call for a full-on reassessment (but I am biased, as I'm the one who promoted this article). It also might be a good idea to ping Courcelles, since they were the one who reviewed the submission.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 19:26, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: I just found this at MOS:PLOT: "The length of a plot summary should be carefully balanced with the length of the other sections ... For some types of media, associated guidelines may offer advice on plot length; for example, WP:Manual of Style/Film § Plot suggests that plot summaries for feature films be between 400 and 700 words." This isn't a movie, but it is movie-length. I also found this at MOS:TVPLOT: "Episode articles should have a prose plot summary of no more than 400 words." Elements (along with Stakes and Islands) is a miniseries made up of 8 episodes, so it would make sense that it would be a wee bit longer than 400. It should probably still be cut down, but arguing that this violates the MoS is a bit of a stretch, given that the MoS does not really have a specific limit, especially for something like a miniseries.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 19:36, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- That's fair. Again, I've never done this sort of reassessment thing before. I think the MOS:FILMPLOT guideline should probably be in effect here, as in the plot summary shouldn't be more than 700 words. I left a message about this discussion on Courcelles's talk page. —Matthew - (talk) 21:34, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- No worries. It's at 670 words right now. Please let me know if this is looking better. It'll probably need a few more copy-edits before I'm satisfied with it, but I feel like it looks much better. I'll get to work on Islands and Stakes, too.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 15:57, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- Much better, I agree! I've removed the long plot tag from the Elements article accordingly. —Matthew - (talk) 21:45, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- Do you have any other conerns MatthewHoobin or can I close this? AIRcorn (talk) 07:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Much better, I agree! I've removed the long plot tag from the Elements article accordingly. —Matthew - (talk) 21:45, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- No worries. It's at 670 words right now. Please let me know if this is looking better. It'll probably need a few more copy-edits before I'm satisfied with it, but I feel like it looks much better. I'll get to work on Islands and Stakes, too.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 15:57, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- That's fair. Again, I've never done this sort of reassessment thing before. I think the MOS:FILMPLOT guideline should probably be in effect here, as in the plot summary shouldn't be more than 700 words. I left a message about this discussion on Courcelles's talk page. —Matthew - (talk) 21:34, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: I just found this at MOS:PLOT: "The length of a plot summary should be carefully balanced with the length of the other sections ... For some types of media, associated guidelines may offer advice on plot length; for example, WP:Manual of Style/Film § Plot suggests that plot summaries for feature films be between 400 and 700 words." This isn't a movie, but it is movie-length. I also found this at MOS:TVPLOT: "Episode articles should have a prose plot summary of no more than 400 words." Elements (along with Stakes and Islands) is a miniseries made up of 8 episodes, so it would make sense that it would be a wee bit longer than 400. It should probably still be cut down, but arguing that this violates the MoS is a bit of a stretch, given that the MoS does not really have a specific limit, especially for something like a miniseries.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 19:36, 5 April 2020 (UTC)