Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop/Archive/Mar 2021

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Convert "Rail transport map of Turkey" to vector graphics

Article(s): Turkish State Railways
Request

Hello again,

I would like to be able to write all the words in English. Except the place names don't matter as they are the same except İstanbul is Istanbul without a dot in English, but I wonder if they could/should be Wikilinks?

If anyone is kind enough to take this on let me know before you start as it might also be nice to Turkify the symbols if Berkaysnklf (talk · contribs) agrees.

Chidgk1 (talk) 18:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

Climate Change Performance Index

Current image with 2020 stats
2021 map

Article(s): Multiple. Eg: Climate Change, Climate Change Performance Index
Request: Can you update this map with 2021 stats based on the following sources:; Map here: [1]; Actual source: p6 or ranking [2]; Thanks!Bogazicili (talk) 11:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Discussion

Hi Bogazicili I'm pretty sure that map is a screenshot of a map found online, and so it has some copyright issues. However, it's easy enough to put up something based on File:BlankMap-World.svg. Would that work? CMD (talk) 13:05, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Chipmunkdavis, that would be great thanks! For copyright issues, should we notify the author of the image? Bogazicili (talk) 09:54, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

@Bogazicili: please see above. Probably worth inquiring with the original author regarding 2020 copyright. CMD (talk) 10:42, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Chipmunkdavis, this looks great! Thanks! Do you think we should also put the scale within the image rather than in the legend? I have no preference either way, but just curious which would be more readable. What's the standard practice in Wikipedia? Bogazicili (talk) 11:09, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

My understanding is that it is usually preferred to keep legends out of images, as this makes them easier to use across different language wikis. CMD (talk) 12:16, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Chipmunkdavis, that makes perfect sense. I updated the images on English Wikipedia with your version. Thanks for the help! Bogazicili (talk) 12:47, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Request

English unitary authorities 2020

Article(s)

Unitary authorities of England

Request

Please could someone update the above map to 2021. It would involve just adding North Northamptonshire and West Northamptonshire in red. Thanks. -- Del_Usion23 (talk) 19:33, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

By the way, that "SVG" is actually just an embeded raster graphic. Might as well recreate it from scratch. — Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 18:46, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I don't have the skills necessary to create a new svg from scratch, but if someone is able to that would be great. Del_Usion23 (talk) 19:11, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

All these England maps appear to trace back to File:English administrative divisions 2010.svg. The main issue is these maps have Northamptonshire as one joint authority. Has anyone created a 2021 map with both? Otherwise it may be possible to manipulate File:Northamptonshire UK district map (blank).svg, which was created using the same projection. (There may also be other areas that need updates from 2010.) CMD (talk) 13:07, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks CMD. That map would be a great starting point. It looks like the only other change since 2010 to the boundaries is the merging of Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole, which would also have to be updated. File:Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole UK ward map (blank) 2019.svg may be useful for that. Del_Usion23 (talk) 14:19, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

{{Resolved}} Using the above help I was able to fashion the following using my crude skills (File:English unitary authorities 2021.svg). I'm happy enough with it. If anyone wants to improve it then it's largely there now. Thanks again to the workshop for the help. Del_Usion23 (talk) 14:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Swiss Burka referendum Map result

Article(s): 2021 Swiss referendums

Request: Hi i am just wondering can somebody make a Swiss Map of which way the swiss Cantons want during the Ban on full facial coverings vote.

I have this link with which way the cantons want. Here is the Link

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/vote-results--march-7--2021/46380436

Thanks. La lopi (talk) 08:43, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Discussion: La lopi There's already a detailed German/French/Italian version on Commons. --Goldsztajn (talk) 09:07, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for that imfo, i posted that version on the page. La lopi (talk) 12:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC) {{resolved}}

Requesting a series of maps for the battle of Marathon

Article

[[3]]

Request: Currently the section describing the battle, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Marathon#Battle, has one map (Persians in red, Greeks in blue) that tries to show all of the phases of this battle. As you can see it is complicated and, I think, makes it hard to understand what happened there.; It also contains a major error. The article specifically states that Persian cavalry were “not engaged”, yet the map shows two Persian cavalry units right in the middle of the struggle.; I would like to create a series of simple maps, that would accompany the text, and that will illustrate each of the five or so phases of this battle. As a possible starting point, I have a to-scale drawing, based on a current map of the Marathon battle site, that shows what I am thinking of. Joe Bfsplk (talk) 18:26, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Discussion: Then I would need that drawing. Also we have to discuss and make a first map as a Mother which we then will follow.

Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 19:38, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Joe Bfsplk Forgot to ping you, please read above and get back to me, please always ping me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:43, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Extended content

Joe Bfsplk Now I have a draft-1 of the base map. This is a png version of the svg file I'm working in. You will have to tell me what the different places you wrote about what they are, battle places, cities ...

At commons we have templates we use to make maps look similar and for military we have this one, but I'm not sure we can use those symbols on something this old. So give me feedback and info, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:44, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en First draft of the base map looks good. Let me review and I will respond with the information you asked for. Joe Bfsplk (talk) 19:36, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Joe Bfsplk Thanks for the extensive information. It's actually to much for me, I work on several things at the same time and it's hard to read and remember that much. I just need exactly what I should do, Greek troops moving forward here, battle at this position etc. I do understand it's hard know but after a while we both will know, so thanks.

In this draft I have just put out all the names, we decide further on which to keep/add and position them.
Draft D-1. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:09, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Joe Bfsplk I need your feed back as per above, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en Sorry for all of the information. I agree, too much. I will review your most recent draft and get back to you with the next step. Joe Bfsplk (talk) 20:15, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en I just sent you some edits to your D-1 draft. Joe Bfsplk (talk) 19:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Joe Bfsplk It would help me if you stick to the correct coloring in your information drawings (maybe you are right and I'm wrong there).

Is the colors and positions correct on Draft D-1, Greek-red, Persian-Blue? --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:17, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en You are correct. Persian forces are hostile and according to this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Template_of_Military_Symbols.png they should be red. Greek forces are then blue. My mistake. Joe Bfsplk (talk) 16:34, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Joe Bfsplk

To me we use squares from this template to show type and position for a unit/headquarter etc. They are not used to show shapes, positions of troops or battle lines. We can wait and see what you want later on and correct if needed. Eg. map-1, map-2..
I added another symbol for Tumulus as a circle would be to similar to the city symbol.
Draft-1_2. --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:06, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en Great work so far. I have sent you the last few edits for the First Phase map and first draft for Second Phase. I have suggested a way of showing troop movement. See what you think. Is there any other way? Joe Bfsplk (talk) 19:43, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Joe Bfsplk This draft is a PNG version of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons. Draft-1_3.

Draft-2_1. --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:31, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en Excellent. I am going to sketch out the last three phases and send all to you in couple of days. Joe Bfsplk (talk) 20:43, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en I just sent you the draft for maps for phases 3,4, and 5. Joe Bfsplk (talk) 17:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Joe Bfsplk I had to make some overall changes so here is five new drafts.

Draft-1.
Draft-2.
Draft-3.
Draft-4.
Draft-5. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:01, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en Thanks for these. They look good. I like the "retreat" arrows. They help to separate retreaters from pursuers. I may have some small edits in couple days. We're close to being done. Joe Bfsplk (talk) 16:58, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en After thinking about your maps for a week, I think they are perfect, so I suggest that we are done with this project. Thankyou for your good work.

My next step is to propose the addition of these maps to the 200+ watchers of the Battle of Marathon article. Joe Bfsplk (talk) 18:17, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Joe Bfsplk I will need the following for each of the five files;

Name of the file
Description (/language)
Captions/s (/language)
Category/ies at commons

to be able to upload it at commons. If you don'y know about Captions read here.--Goran tek-en (talk) 15:56, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Joe Bfsplk I really need the information asked for above, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:24, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en I have a draft of the information you need. I will send final to you Monday 4/26 Joe Bfsplk (talk) 19:38, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en I just emailed you the information you asked for. Do you need anything else?Joe Bfsplk (talk) 14:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Joe Bfsplk Should we not redo the fourth and fifth phase then. I followed your information and didn't think about that they actually retreated to their ships and that gif shows another retreat path. You have the knowledge so you tell me? --always ping me--Goran tek-en (talk) 16:32, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en Let me think about this. Your question requires a long answer. Joe Bfsplk (talk) 20:49, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Goran tek-en I just emailed an answer to your questions along with a draft of the proposed "Battle" section. I would like to proceed with the maps as they are now, and then we shall see what the article watchers think. Joe Bfsplk (talk) 17:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Joe Bfsplk We could add a sixth phase showing them taking to the boats. Your proposed names was not accepted so I changed them. Now you can find them here

If you are happy with this please put the code {{tl|resolved|1=~~~~}} on this request so it can be archived, thanks. Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:13, 8 May 2021 (UTC) {{resolved}}