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January 7[edit]

Australian Government Copyright conditions[edit]

I recently discovered a prominent Australian botanist does not have an article about him doing a quick internet search I located an image I would like to use. The [image]is here, it noted this condition regarding the image Use of images for non-commercial web sites is allowed on condition that credit is given to the Australian National Botanic Gardens and these words are hotlinked to our home page. The copyright and public access page is [Here]. I would like to know if these conditions would allow publication in a Wiki article as I am a little uncertain even after reading the wiki guidelines on Image uploads, or will I need to email the copyright holders? Many thanks --Matt 00:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but that doesn't qualify. Images which are not otherwise fair use need more than just permission for non-commercial sites. -Amarkov blahedits 00:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I understand, some commercial sites republish Wikipedia content, so like Amarkov said, this wouldn't work. Xiner (talk, email) 00:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Further, while it's possible to require that proper credit be given to the person/organization who created the photo, no restriction can be made about who gets to re-use the photo. The non-commercial clause for that photo is what makes it invalid for use on Wikipedia. -- Kesh 00:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks to all the answers I understand more clearly now --Matt 00:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How do you re-name an article[edit]

Hello, I've created an article Ian wallace (footballer) but I've very stupidly spelt Ian's surname with a lower case 'w'. How to I rectify this? Thank you. The BGC 01:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can use the move tab to move/rename the page under the new title. G.He 01:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved it for you. DoomsDay349 01:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks guys, but what's the 'move tab' - sorry Wiki-Thicky here! The BGC 01:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
On the top of the page, there are several tabs, like "article" and "discussion". To the right you'll see one named "move". DoomsDay349 01:34, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for this DoomsDay349 but I haven't got that link. On most articles I get Article, Discussion, Edit this page, History and Watch but no Move tab. Do you have to be a special user? The BGC 01:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, yes, I forgot. I think you have to be around for three or so days to move articles, it's a vandalism deterrent. Forgot about that, when did you join? DoomsDay349 01:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah Ha, I joined less than three days ago! Mystery solved. Thanks for the welcome on my talk page by the way! The BGC 01:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome; feel free to contact me with any more questions. DoomsDay349 01:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do have another question actually. I'm now trying to make my Ian Wallace (footballer) page link from the Ian Wallace page. Although the entry for my page is there (I didn't do this) it doesn't show on the actual article and editing the page makes some of the other entries disappear. And what do the --> or !<-- tags mean? The BGC 01:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not too sure what you mean about those tags, but I've fixed the Ian Wallace page regardless. DoomsDay349 01:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, you're a star anyway! The BGC 02:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Aww shucks, thanks :) DoomsDay349 02:03, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
<!-- and -->tags are comment tags. For example, if you click edit and look here, There is text you can't see from the actual page if you know what I mean? Click edit, and look here. It's used to leave comments for other editors but without readers being confused as to their meaning etc. — Deon555talkdesksign here! 03:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit counts[edit]

How do I find how many edits any particular contributor has? Is there a list of the biggest contributors? Backspace 03:03, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit vcount tools: Interiot's tool2 and Interiot's wannabe kate tool (the second one is easiest to use). There is probobly a list of the most contributors, but I doubt its accurate. I would be guessing they would be in the region of 50k edits though (excluding bots with several hundred thousand). ViridaeTalk 03:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(after ec) See WP:EC. There are links there to edit counters (Wikipedia:Tools#Edit counters) and under the heading Statistics there are lists of highest contributors (Admins, Non-admins, Wikipedians etc) — Deon555talkdesksign here! 03:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

dubious fair use[edit]

I have found some dubious fairuse-tagged images I want reviewed, but I don't know where to take them. Is there a live process anywhere that handles this stuff? — coelacan talk — 03:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe there is Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images, but I am not sure it is what you require. Yuser31415 04:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Yuser31415. That did help me find {{rfu}}, which solves part of the problem, pertaining to pictures of living people. I'm also looking at some book covers that are probably not being used properly. I'm trying to find the fair-use rationale for book covers at the moment. But once I find that I'm still not sure how to report it. =( I asked a similar question at WP:AN#eleven month backlog and got no response yet. — coelacan talk — 04:37, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You'll probably find all the info you need at WP:FU; if not, report the covers on WP:ANI and an adminstrator will review them. Cheers! Yuser31415 04:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I might have found something specific. WP:IFD has a copyright violation option. I'm not certain what the difference between that and WP:PUI is or should be though. Thanks for your help so far, btw. — coelacan talk — 05:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

bad link change asap[edit]

the 110th congress link on the mainpage links to the following comment "lol wikipedia sucks" please correct that

Long since fixed. That piece of vandalism was there for just a short time before being reverted. Any editor can change a vandalized version of the article back to the last good version. Newyorkbrad 05:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Summary[edit]

Is it possible to add an edit summary after saving?--Benstown 05:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. Edit summaries can't be changed. However if the edit summary contained a privacy violation or something else really bad then an admin can delete it. -- zzuuzz (talk) 05:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No, once you've saved the edit it's too late to add an edit summary to that edit. You can do another edit to the same article and note in the summary for it what you did to the prior edit as well. If you find yourself forgetting to enter a summary, and you're a registered user, you can set your Preferences to prompt you for an edit summary when you click on save and the summary is blank. Newyorkbrad 05:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
[3x edit conflict!] I don't think so but you can turn on a feature in your preferences which will alert you if you forget one. Go to preferences (top right corner) and click the editing tab. It is the bottom check box. This way if you forget to make an edit summary it stops it from saving and asks you for one, but if you click save again it saves without an edit summary. I hope I've helped. James086Talk | Contribs 05:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Benstown 08:25, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image licensing question[edit]

I'm not sure what license a portrait photo of myself falls under. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks. Jackytar 05:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you took it yourself, you can license it however you want. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for more information. --Rory096 06:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It depends who owns the copyright and how they have licensed it. Normally copyright rests with the person who took the photo and not its subject, however copyright can also belong to the person who commissioned the photo. You should check the terms of the contract with the photographer. Wikipedia also has a page called Wikipedia:Media copyright questions where you may get a better answer. -- zzuuzz (talk) 06:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete an account[edit]

How do i delete my account?Mellikay 7 05:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can't. You can, however, just stop using it. --Rory096 06:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What Does &nbsp ; Do?[edit]

A response on my help page would be very nice, thanks.100110100 06:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

&nbsp ; is the non-breaking space. --Rory096 06:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

about bharatanatya and natyashastra in general[edit]

how to the information

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Natya Shastra. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that doesn't solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They'll be glad to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. - Tangotango (talk) 06:16, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Credibility[edit]

To whom it may concern,

Please read this entire note before differing me to the FAQ section. I am a new user of Wikipedia and recently made certain changes to an article that I believed to be less than credible. Upon viewing that article the next day, I found that the most important change that I had made had been reverted. I worry that the author of this article will be adamant in refusing to delete certain segments about the article in question and rather than begin the whole agonizing process of working things out, I am trying to decide whether continuting to edit Wikipedia is even going to be worth the trouble. Here are the details:

The article in question is entitled, "Adamic language" and the particular section is called, "The Adamic language in Mormonism." This is the paragraph that I had changed:

"Mormon temple ceremonies, such as the prayer circle, once used the words "Pay Lay Ale"[2] which the church believed were Adamic words meaning "Oh God, hear the words of my mouth." The untranslated words are no longer used in temple ceremonies and have been replaced by the English version.[3]"

My problem with this paragraph's credibility is in relation to the credibility of the sources. All written or otherwise recorded details of Mormon temple ceremonies have always been kept under lock and key by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints because they are considered too sacred to be spoken of outside temple walls. The Church has never allowed the general public any access to the details of these ceremonies nor have any copies of these proceedings ever been allowed outside the temples or official church archives unless in transit between such places. Also, all witnesses to such ceremonies are required to make a verbal contract that they will not ever discuss these details outside of the temple before they are allowed to witness the ceremony. No recording devices are allowed into the ceremonies either. Because of this, any source that divulges these details is a source that must either do so either from memory alone (the ceremonies can be over 2 hours long, I might add) or from hearsay alone. In addition, a short research session into the backgrounds and publications of these sources will show that in general, they tend to be sources who are overwhelmingly biased against all things related to the church. Anthropological studies have shown that this kind of bias, also called ethnocentrism, will almost always skew the facts that are presented in such would-be anthropological publications, thus harming their credibility.

Of course I do not expect you to research all of the statements I have just made. Rather, I only ask, hypothetically assuming that my facts are correct, would it be according to Wikipedia's policies to remove details of Mormon temple ceremonies, past or present, from Wikipedia articles given that the credibility of their sources is seriously in question (as they are ALL based on either hearsay or testimony of those who make ethnocentrically biased, and thus skewed, statements about Mormons)? If so, I propose the said research to be done and for this process of bad information removal to quickly begin. If not, I worry that Wikipedia may not adhere to the highest standards of neutrality and credibility possible and with this being the case, continuing to edit Wikipedia would prove to be an ultimately fruitless effort on my part.

Lastly, if Wikipedia does not find it suitable to remove all details of temple ceremonies from its articles, I would request at least that a conspicuous disclaimer stating that all said details may be inaccurate due to the absence of entirely credible sources be added to each article section containing any temple ceremony details.

Thank you for your time. I eagerly anticipate your response. --Newmitos 07:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I read your whole note and agree that merely verifying that a source said something is not enough. The source must be a reliable one. Please reference this policy/guideline pair in making any decisions about this.—WAvegetarian(talk) 10:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If I may chime in, I think the presumption -- that any otherwise reliable source that writes about the details of LDS religious ceremonies must, inherently, either have obtained the information by hearsay or else be biased against the church -- must be rejected. Information is not necessarily unreliable simply because it is (1) intended to be kept secret, or (2) derogatory (not that this particular example seems derogatory to me, but I get the feeling the OP considers it derogatory). If the source can be shown to be biased, then it is not reliable; otherwise, if it meets all other criteria, it is. --Tkynerd 23:34, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

adding external links[edit]

I wanted to add some links to a global cultural non profit project that contains information about different countries and cultures and is a combination of experiential learning and knowledge sharing. There is a lot of useful information on the project's website about maori culture and New Zealand but the link I added was deleted. Could you please tell me if I did something wrong. Obviously placing information on your website gives promotion to many products but in this case this is not the aim. The aim is to let people know and make it easy for them to access additional information and as I said the project is non profit and free access anyway.

I will be really thankful for your guidance and help thanks kefir

Our guidelines on external links can be found here. In general, discussing disputes regarding the content of articles on the talk page of the relevant article is a good thing.—WAvegetarian(talk) 10:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What Does <div class="references-small" style="-moz-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> Do?[edit]

A response on my talk page would be very nice, thanks.100110100 07:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replying on user talk. Luna Santin 08:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

+ and - numbers on watchlist items[edit]

On my watchlist, beside each watched page is a positive or negative number in brackets. What does the number mean? Thanks Finn 08:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Those numbers indicate the number of characters added or subtracted from the page. Larry V (talk | e-mail) 08:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GFDL attribution question[edit]

Hello, I would like to know what are the proper ways someone can attribute GFDL content from a wiki (like Wikipedia) on another wiki. Someone (who claims they are GFDL expert) has alleged that the attribution requirement can be fulfilled by simply leaving an edit summary with the URL of the content. The Wikipedia policy page on copyrights (and citing Wikipedia) says that a live link to the original article has to be placed on the page with something like "This article incorporates text from the Wikipedia article on (name of article) [live URL]" or something like that. So what I want to know is there more than one way to fulfill the attribution requirement (on wikis) or is that the only way (the WP policy page)?

Also, I would like to know if someone wanted to redistribute WP content in print, for example if I have a company and want to publish a print version of Wikipedia (not all the articles of course!), how would the attribution be fulfilled? For every article I would have to attribute the primary contributors? Is there a page somewhere with details on this? Thanks much. Khodavand 09:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While we can't give specific legal advice, Wikipedia's interpretation of the GFDL can be seen at Wikipedia:Copyrights. Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks are what the web based copies of the project is called. The only legal document is the text of the license, which you may interpret as you will. —WAvegetarian(talk) 10:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. Okay, so is there any specific 3rd-party website that shows legal opinions on this issues? Because I have searched and there is no "straight" answer and I emailed GNU weeks ago with this same questions and I never heard anything. And their website only shows the text, no clear legal interpretation of it. Khodavand 10:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • A better way is copying the edit history. You don't know if or when the original might be deleted. - 87.209.70.231 12:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

to find a london or uk zip codes[edit]

How to find uk or entire london zip codes by wikipedia search?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.162.196.179 (talkcontribs).

The UK uses postcodes. There is an overview at List of postal areas in the United Kingdom. London prefixes are: E, EC, N, NW, SE, SW, W, and WC. There are approximately 96,021 individual postcodes in London. However, to get the entire list of postcodes you need access to the Postcode Address File which is a proprietary database. You can search it online. -- zzuuzz (talk) 13:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
For a particular postcode you could go directly to Royal Mail and plug in the address that you're looking for. Backspace 19:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arrows[edit]

Seeing as their are arrows that go left and right, are there arrows that go up and down? --Imdanumber1 ( Talk | contribs) 13:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean images? If so, there is Image:Arrow down.svg, but if not, you may want to clarify. -- Natalya 14:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How to delete a blank article[edit]

I have accidentally created two articles - one with the title mispelled and blank. How do I delete the wrong version?

You can tag an article for speedy deletion if you created it by accident with {{db-author}}. I presume you mean Gino d'acampo so I did it for you. James086Talk | Contribs 14:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to view images any more[edit]

I used to be able to view images on Wikipedia (e.g. the featured article picture on the homepage) but now all I get is a box with a red cross in the corner. Even the editing icons appear as red crosses.

When I right-click I have the option to "show picture" but nothing happens. Also, the "save picture" option is unavailable.

I use Windows XP with IE6, standard default settings. All other webpages seem to load pictures fine.

Could anybody offer me any advice?

I think it's your browser. I would advise updating to IE7 or Firefox 2 but you may not want to, I don't know. You could try force refreshing while on a Wikipedia page (press Ctrl and F5). This is a more thorough refresh which clears your cache of that page. There's not much else I can think of, especially if it's only Wikipedia. James086Talk | Contribs 14:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For some strange reason it has sorted itself out. Thanks for your help anyway.

Actually, I don't recommend updating to either yet. They have a few baby bugs that need to be ironed out. - Mgm|(talk) 22:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, what about Firefox 1.X? you can install all kinds of Wikipedia stuff and it has few bugs. T. Kewl the First 01:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question on content criteria restrictions[edit]

Hello,

I have a question on your content criteria restrictions. Specifically, for musicians, do you have minimum published work requirements for a band's entry to be posted? I thought I had heard at one point that a band had to have released at least one or two CD's before they qualified to be a Wikipedia entry. Is this correct?

Thanks, Sam —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.126.128.32 (talkcontribs) 14:50, January 7, 2007.

Hi, Sam. You can read about Wikipedia's guidelines for musical groups here: WP:BAND. Thanks for your interest. Canderson7 (talk) 14:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My watchlist[edit]

Hi everyone, I feel slightly embarrassed about using the help desk, considering I've been here nearly 7 months, but this is really bugging me. Does anyone have any idea why my watchlist would refuse to load when everything else does? I've tried on Firefox and Internet Explorer, restarted my computer several times and refreshed and refreshed but still nothing happens. I've also noticed Special:Special pages doesn't have Watchlist on it (at least not for me). As this is my most important page, does anyone have any clue why it's not working for me? Thanks in advance. --Majorly (talk) 13:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it appears this is a common problem affecting some users today. It's being discussed in the #wikimedia-tech channel on IRC, so it should get fixed soon, if not already fixed. Cheers, Tangotango (talk) 15:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

software for off-line editing, formats as WP would[edit]

Is there any Windows software for editing off-line that will format the article the way that Wikipedia will? Bubba73 (talk), 16:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Western Civilization 5th Century[edit]

What countries comprised the western Roman empire at the collapse of Rome in 476 A.D.? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deb5266 (talkcontribs) 17:21, 7 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Have you tried the humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 17:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

bllod pressure[edit]

1) What is condider normal bllod pressure?

2) What is consider high?

3) What is consider low?

4) When should a person consult a doctor (low)

5) When should a person consult a doctor (high) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.19.244.130 (talk) 17:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Please ask the Wikipedia:Reference_desk or or at the blood pressure article's discussion page. Xiner (talk, email) 17:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, Wikipedia does not give medical advice, and you should be aware that medical articles may contain information that is not accurate or safe. Notinasnaid 20:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

blood pressure[edit]

Please see answer above. Xiner (talk, email) 17:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Diary (heading added)[edit]

Hello,

Can u direct me to a location where I might start a "DIARY". I am a "newbie" here and wish to use your services for my own edification and peace of mind. Can you assist and direct me?

I thank thee.

lotusseekerLotusseeker

Wikipedia is not the place for that. You might wish to try LiveJournal, Blogger, or any of a number of other blog services on the Internet. (A blog can be simply an online diary, if that's what you want.) If you want to keep a private diary, don't do it on the Internet; you'll need to find software you can run locally for that, and I don't know of any (except that you could use any word processing software to keep a diary locally). --Tkynerd 18:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Teh[edit]

Can you please restore history for Teh? It's screwed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alucardracula (talkcontribs) 18:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Could you clarify how it's messed up, and what history you want? Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 19:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting text around pictures[edit]

I can't remember how to format the text to do what I want around a picture. I remember how to change size and how to switch right/left, but I can not remember how to make a section of text following a picture not get wrapped (indented, etc) around the picture. Isn't there an editing command to make the next section of text start after the bottom of an image, instead of next to it? --After Midnight 0001 19:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can use the template {{-}} (I think that's the right one!), which should make the text appear below the image. -- Natalya 19:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
BINGO. Thank you. --After Midnight 0001 19:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How to correct a movie article? And how to fix a signature?[edit]

How do I correct the movie article for Night at the Museum? I already asked how long the article should be, and realize it is too long. When I try to shorten it, my edits keep being reverted by people who want the article to be a substitute to seeing the movie. Is there a way I can let them know this is wrong and not to revert the edits? I think I saw it once. It was a template at the top of the page that states in red that "This article should not be a substitute for seeing the movie." and something like stop making it longer...

Also, I cannot get my signature to work. Do you know how I can fix it? When I sign the four tildes, it looks like this: [[User:Babygator23|<font color="green">~Gatorgirl623~</font>]] 20:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, for your sig check the box that says "raw Signature", and that should do it. — Arjun 20:21, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've looked for the film template you describe, and don't see one anywhere. (I checked the general templates page and also WikiProject Films for relevant templates.) Perhaps it's been taken out of use. That being the case, your best bet is probably to revert the other people's changes, and the first time you do so, bring up the issue on the talk page (assuming you haven't done so already; I haven't looked to see). Don't forget WP:3RR. Happy editing. --Tkynerd 20:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Missing" Article[edit]

Why is it if I'm signed in and search for What's Up? [1], an article I created, I get the response there's no Wiki article with that title, but if I'm not signed in I can access it with no problem? Thanks! SFTVLGUY2 20:25, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The link you've posted is to secure.wikimedia.org rather than to en.wikipedia.org, which I suspect could be part of the problem. Type "en.wikipedia.org" (without the quotes, of course :-)) into your browser's address bar, sign in as usual, and then search for the article. --Tkynerd 20:31, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestion - it worked. Out of curiosity, why was only this particular article affected? I was able to access all others I created with no problem. Thanks! SFTVLGUY2 14:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Compare selected versions - sometimes too wide[edit]

When I go to the history of a page and do "compare selected versions", sometimes I get two neat columns that easitly fit on the screen. However, at other times the result is too wide to fit on a screen and I get scroll bars. The width varies. sometimes the left column is so wide that I can see very little of the right. Is there a way to guarantee that it will whow two colums without scroll bars? Bubba73 (talk), 21:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think this occurs when you have super-long URLs. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a cure. Xiner (talk, email) 21:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting further information - how?[edit]

Briefly - if I feel that an article is incomplete, but haven't the resources / desire / time to add to it myself, are there any bracket-tags that I can use?

Specifically, I'm working in the Indianapolis Colts entry, which, like most sports articles, is an absolute mess. Every single niggling detail of the 2004 and 2005 seasons is mentioned, but several important parts of the team's history (the early 1990s, for instance) are delegated to passing mention (not even a sentence's worth).

I can't really stand the Colts and can't fathom myself sitting down to flesh out this era, but would like to add a tag so some Colts fan of the future will know to expound a little.

Thanks in advance! --Action Jackson IV 22:29, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See if any of these would suit you. :-) BTW, that page says that {{Expansion}} goes at the top of the talk page, but I am used to seeing it at the top of article pages, where it is also more likely to be noticed. If you want to use that template, I recommend perusing its talk page (which I haven't done myself) to see if there is any related discussion. --Tkynerd 23:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can not get this person banned.[edit]

I have repetitively tried to get 24.63.203.132 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) banned for vandalizing an article I've been working on (adding incorrect information), but have failed every time. It feels like this person is trying to harass me, because they have ignored all of my attempts to have a discussion with them (talk page, users talk page, comment for article edit, and hidden comments within the article), and have not given me any citations for the information they are putting in. The person repetitively reverts the article after I remove the false information. I have given the person warnings and followed the procedure to the best of my ability as a new editor, but all of my ban requests have been thrown out. The first time, the request was thrown out because someone thought the vandal had stopped, the second time (less than half an hour ago), it was thrown out because someone considered it a content dispute. I've been told by other users that this person's actions were considered vandalism and I followed the procedure, and it hasn't worked. How do I get this person banned? I can't stand being in an edit war, but I don't want this person to be satisfied with getting their vandalism to stay on the page. Miriam The Bat 22:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Go to the administrator's noticeboard. Be sure to provide diffs! Cheers! Yuser31415 00:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Picture doesn't show up[edit]

Hi there! I'd like to put this illustration in an article somewhere Image:CH4mo.png - but it does not show up. Is it because it is too big? Is there a way around it? Thanks in advance. --HappyCamper 23:21, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've scaled the picture down and uploaded it as Image:CH4mo2.PNG, which shows up when I test it. Try it and get back to me if there are still problems. Let me know on my talk page if you have any questions or want to discuss anything. delldot | talk 00:22, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My first-ever edit disappeared[edit]

I added a source to "Republic of Letters" about a month ago. Today I went back to add another source, and found that the material I placed on the page was gone. I checked the "history" page and saw nothing to indicate any activity had taken place since I added the source. What happened? Bmwilcox 23:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you talking about this edit? It looks like they just moved the info into a "references" section, which makes sense to me, since it is a reference. If it's a different edit, then it did indeed disappear, since it doesn't show up in your contributions, and that's very baffling indeed. Let me know on my talk page if you have any questions or want to discuss anything.. Thanks for editing! delldot | talk 00:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]