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July 5

Help me fight againts tyranny in Portuguese Wikipedia

Dear Sir,

I am a user in Portuguese Wikipedia and I was blocked by an administrator because I vote in another direction in the pages to erase. He threatened me with blockade. Because of this threat I ask a informal mediation for the problem, but when he reads my request to a mediation, blocked me immediately. And know I can’t reply any question neither the mediation. What I can do?

In Portuguese Wikipedia a group of administrators control the Wikipedia against all rules. They "erase" anyone who doesn't share their opinions. They work together promoting their point of view against anyone they don't like. They treat, block, etc, to continue to have this kind of power.

The others administrators don't do nothing because they have afraid to be a outline member.

My ask for you is:

1- Can I vote in the direction who I think is the correct, or I need to vote lined with the administrators? 1.a- Can they blocked me because I vote against their opinions? 2- Can I propose pages do erase when I think is not relevant to Wikipedia? 2.a - What is the criteria to decide if a page is relevant or not? 2.b - Can they blocked because i propose a page to erase (with a explanation)?

The users are this:

Sincerely,--RSIC 00:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, this is the english wikipedia project. We have no control over what happens on the other wikiprojects last I checked. You will have to ask the Wikimedia foundation. --_ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 00:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Each Wikipedia works independently, although there are things each one has to follow by Foundation policy. From what I think, though, you might've done something other than the action above. Users on the English Wikipedia, for example, who act disruptive (and voting disruptively, for example) can be blocked. If you have a big issue with the Portuguese Wikipedia, I suppose you can write to a steward or the Foundation. x42bn6 Talk Mess 12:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Reset password

I can't remember what information i gave. Ci guess the only thing that identifies me is the id of theis computer. i am the only one using it.Can you send me a form or something?

• If you gave Wikipedia your email address, you can ask it to email you a new password from the login screen. Otherwise, you're stuck - you will need to create a new account. Shalom ^Hello 04:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

No Manga!

In many (about 7/8 of the Pokemon articles I read) the Pokemon do not have Manga sections! I have not read the manga so I can't put up any information. So could anyone who has read the manga please put up a "In the Manga" section on them? Arigato. -I PWN U ALL 03:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Did you try asking on the specific talk pages? If you were to post there, someone might be able to help you out. Hope this helps! RJaguar3 | u | t 04:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

You can also discuss at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pokémon. PrimeHunter 04:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

To RJaguar3|u|t: Suicune. -I PWN U ALL 04:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Something I notiiced at the AIV and the UAA

How come one admin can't block several users in a short amount of time? I noticed that never happens. Cheers, JetLover 04:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

• You'll have to ask the admins about that; I'd try WP:AN. My guess is that the admins need to verify that the block is actually called for by checking the contribution log and/or talk page of a suspected vandal on AIV - this takes a minute or two. They also need to lookup the IP to make sure they're not blocking the White House by mistake. (It's not a joke.) However, you will sometimes see the same admin knock out five or six users in a row - it just takes time. Shalom ^Hello 04:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Fixed your links.

Changing skin

I changed my skin and now I can't change back to this "regular one". Can anyone help me? My username is "Anissima".

Thanks.

Replied on User talk:Anissima. Shalom ^Hello 05:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Pictures

Can I post pictures that I bought (from WireImage, for example)?

Thanks.

No. At least, not unless you can get express permission from the copyright holder to release the images for public use on Wikipedia, which is highly unlikely. -- Kesh 05:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Image to Userbox

How would I use this image on an userbox: Image:Vulpix.png? -I PWN U ALL 04:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC) Huh? It was supposed to be a link... -I PWN U ALL 04:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I have changed it to a link with : in [[:Image:Vulpix.png]]. PrimeHunter 05:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Because the image is fair use, you can't make a userbox or have it on your page. It can only illustrate the article it belongs with.CindyBo^talk 05:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

To post furniture & appliance for sale

Please guide. How and where do I post furniture for sale—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.85.207.43 (talk • contribs) 05:12, July 5, 2007

This is a page for asking questions about Wikipedia itself. That said, try eBay. -- Kesh 05:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a site for hawking your used goods. I'd suggest you try something like www.craigslist.org.

Adding to existing article

To the query "Where is the work from? (Click on the appropriate link)" I clicked "* It is entirely my own work", thereafter uploaded a photo Dumur_in_Bangla).jpg, which I took myself. However, I got an automated msg saying " * Who created this image?

   * Who owns the copyright to this image?
   * Where did this image come from?
   Unless this information is added to this page, the image will be deleted"

Since I have already declared that the photo is my own work, pl advise, where I find guidelines how to enter these additional desired data. I have marked the photo for "This file is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License." Lokenrc 07:56, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

You got the message because the image description page does not currently mention anything about where the photo came from or who took it. Just put something like "this photo was taken by myself, Lokenrc", that should be sufficient. You should probably also include information such as the date you took it, where you took it and a brief description of what is in the photo. Raven4x4x 08:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

What's the correct warning

Would there be a specific warning template for a user (not an admin) who has placed the {{protected}} template on a user's page? I've removed the template, as they don't have the power to protect the page concerned, but now wonder what would be the appropriate warning? Misbehaving user is User:Holmes.sherlock and the user page concerned is User:Airboyd. Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 08:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry - user has continued to vandalise so have given the general warnings instead. Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 10:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Pictures

I have just added my article on "Mazawattee Tea" but do not know how to add my Picture Gallery of some 10 pictures (which are mine). (By the way it is marvellous how your system sets everything out so well in the standars format once the article is sent).

Sorry to be a pest as I can see there is a little symbol for picture gallery but cannot work out how to transfer from "My Pictures" to the article. I am 74 now and find some things confusing - although I have put loads of my classical records on my "birthday" iPod - so there is still hope!

Kenharman 11:27, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Please start a new section when asking a new question. Thanks, it just makes things easier for us.

To upload pictures, start by going to this page. When you click one of the links from that page, you will be brought to an upload screen where you can add your pictures. READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY. You should also be aware of our Image Use Policy before uploading any picture to Wikipedia. Copyright is extremely important, so please be sure you know where the picture came from. If you took the picture, then please select any acceptable free license or release your picture into the public domain.

Once you have uploaded a picture, the image will have its' own page, called something along the lines of "Image:Picture_Name.jpg". When you link to this page in your article by using the double brackets, ([[Image:Picture_Name.jpg]]) your picture will appear instead of a blue link. To add pictures to an article, I'd recommend adding some more information to change how the picture looks, such as this: [[Image:Picture_Name.jpg|thumb|Add a caption here]]. That code will cause your picture to be displayed like the one at right here. You can see more examples of this type of code here. Good luck with that - if you need help, please don't hesitate to ask here again in this section, or leave me a message on my talk page. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 11:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

sbreans

how to submit a article or a website to wikipedia?

Read Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article. x42bn6 Talk Mess 12:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Please also read WP:WEB to see if the website meets Wikipedia's website notability standards. Corvus cornix 18:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Adding Images to an existing page

Can some one help me here, I think I need to upload the images form my PC but to where and how?

Cliffd7 12:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

To upload an image, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Upload, making sure you include the original source of the image and select the correct licensing information. To add an image to a page, follow the instructions at Help:Images and other uploaded files. Hope that helps, mattbr 12:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Equillibrium Data of CO2 and MEA Systems

I'm a Chemical Engineering undergraduate and looking for some equillibrium data for designing a stripping column to desorp CO2 from MEA solution (Rich in CO2) with the use of steam. So need to know some consistent sources of Equillibrium data for the above system. Free Online data would be more useful... Thank you Sithara

This is the Wikipedia help desk, for questions about how to use wikipedia. To get help with your question, ask on the Science reference desk. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 13:41, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Backgound Information edit

How can I edit the Background information section.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Loulou 3 (talk • contribs)

I'm presuming you mean the information box on the Live Skull page? If so, simply click on "Edit this page" at the top of that page. The information which makes up the background information box is the first part of the page shown - make your changes, then click "save page". Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 13:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Multiple entries

There are currently two entries for Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy, LLP, a United States law firm. The shorter one should be deleted and the longer one, which doesn't have "LLP" in the title, should stay but I do not know how to do that (or if it is possible without being an admin).

Also -- how do you add a shortcut, to link to the site from just typing in the word "milbank"?

194.74.227.194 13:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I can see the longer one (which I believe is Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy), but cannot see the shorter one. What page is it? Can you provide a link to the page concerned, or type its name below this response?

In terms of a shortcut, do you mean you would like to arrange it so that if someone visits the entry for Milbank on WIkipedia, they automatically get diverted to Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy? As the moment Milbank is diverted to Milbank South Dakota, but a disambiguation page can be arranged.

Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 13:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I thought it best to add a disambiguation hatnote to the article Milbank, South Dakota rather than creating a disambiguation page. --Paul Erik 14:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

If you type in "Milbank Tweed" in the search, it will pull you up to a short entry. That is one that should be deleted. The URL is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milbank_Tweed. 194.74.227.194 14:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Milbank Tweed has redirected to Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy since April 1, so they show the same article. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy was recently expanded. Maybe you compare it to a shorter version you saw at Milbank Tweed before the expansion, or maybe your computer stores a cached old version of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milbank_Tweed. PrimeHunter 14:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

dried goods

$Insertformulahere$ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.231.207.126 (talk)

Do you have a question? Maybe Category:Dried foods is of interest to you. PrimeHunter 14:33, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Bulbapedia Issues

I just signed in on Bulbapediaand I am having trouble making a border can someone tell me how to do it? -68.225.85.186 15:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

This page is for questions on using Wikpedia. Try looking here [1]. Smokizzy (talk) 15:23, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Thousands of small wikis exist; among the few dozen I've looked at, none have anything approaching Wikipedia's Help desk and extensive online manuals. If my sample is representative, Wikipedia remains one of the best places to learn how to edit on wikis that run on the MediaWiki software. As far as how to make a border, it depends on what you want to make the border around, and on what CSS style classes your wiki's administrators have put into the MediaWiki:Common.css file on your wiki. One way to create boxes with borders is to use a table. See the entries under the "Tables:" heading just below: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Tab. Also try browsing around your wiki and look for other articles which have the kind of border you want to make; click the edit tab at the top of such an article, and scroll down to view the wikitext that creates the effect you want. If you can't find a good example on your wiki, look for one on Wikipedia, but be aware that not everything on Wikipedia works readily on another MediaWiki wiki, because Wikipedia users have added a huge number of style classes, templates, extensions, etc., which give Wikipedia many features you would have to similarly install to get them on a smaller wiki. --Teratornis 21:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I might add that if you feel guilty about "abusing" Wikipedia's Help desk with questions about how to edit on another wiki, you may always soothe your guilty conscience by donating some money. --Teratornis 23:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Deleting a revision

Is it possible to have a personal attack completely deleted from an article page, and not just reverting the page? --Jerm (^Talk/ _Contrib) 15:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

If it qualifies as one of the three cases mentioned at Wikipedia:Oversight, then you can request that at Wikipedia:Requests for oversight. ssepp^(talk) 15:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

360 Presents

If a Company like "Here!" TV can have a page, why can't 360 Presents.

The article 360 Presents has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article seemed to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. -FisherQueen (Talk) 15:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

(email removed) Producer360 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Producer360 (talk • contribs).

Note: All above was added here in the same edit [2] by Producer360, with text by FisherQueen copied from User talk:Producer360. PrimeHunter 16:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#What about article x?, Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G11 (referred to in deletion of 360 Presents), and Wikipedia:Deletion policy. PrimeHunter 16:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

username

How do I change my username. Your dang instructions are ridiculous.

CURRENT.USERNAME → NEW.USERNAME

• Current name: CURRENT.USERNAME (talk · contribs · logs · block log)
• Requested name: NEW.USERNAME (rename user)
• Reason: Reason for requested renaming. Lexicana4277 16:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

You appear to have exactly two edits. I don't see how it could possibly be very important to get those edits listed under the new username. So, the easy solution is this: sign up for a new account, under the username you want. Problem solved. Friday (talk) 16:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Border Colors

Ok I have something (kinda like a template but its not a userbox) and I want to change some of the colors (Orange to Green and Gold to Silver) how would I do so?-I PWN U ALL 16:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh nevermind I found the answer! (List of Colors)-I PWN U ALL 16:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Resolved

english font problem

how to get fonts for english wikipedia

Does Wikipedia:Multilingual support answer your question? ssepp^(talk) 16:57, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Having problems adding a citation

I've been able to add a couple of citations to the cerebral palsy page, but when I tried to cut, edit, and paste in a more complex template, I keep adding half a page of info, and no matter how many times I look at my editing code (I'm sure there's a correct phrase for that), I can't see what I did wrong.

I also tried to use the sandbox page to test it, but it only adds the footnote number, not the reference note.

Here is what I'm typing:

(I added this to my talk page as well in case you can only see the footnote, not the code).

When I paste this into the article, it pulls the info from the example I used to get the template.

Also, I'm having a problem with the access date. It comes up in red, which adds a link to the page for that date. Is that the right format to use for accessdate?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CerebralMom (talk • contribs)

Right - well, the first thing to point out is that your closing <ref> tag was lacking the / - it should have read </ref>. Incidentally (and it's not your fault), this then lead to a problem with this page (which I think I've rectified), as subsequent editors posting to the helpdesk were unable to see their code, so posted their question multiple times without seeing any responses. When I then answered your question, it posted their question but with my signature - see [bottom of this history page] for an example!

The second thing to remember is that you will need to place a <reference> tag later on in the page to tell the Wiki where to show your references. I've mocked up how the page should look here. Post a message on my talk page if you need any further help. Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 16:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

On the second part of your question, change the line with the access date to | accessdate=2007-07-05 - Wikipedia will automatically put in the appropriate links, without you needing to put in the [[ ]]. Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 17:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Questionable edits

I noticed editor PorchBoard Bass Stompbox making multiple edits to Stomp Box which include links to a commercial website for PoarchBoard Floor Bass. The information added seems legitimate, but the user name is the company's name. I don't know how to proceed. Revert the edits? Leave the article alone? Ask for a NPOV review? Thanks in advance for any advice. —Travis^talk 16:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#How_to_handle_conflicts_of_interest seems to be relevant here. ssepp^(talk) 17:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - that's exactly what I was looking for. —Travis^talk 17:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Also Wikipedia:External_links#What_should_be_linked. That external link should be removed in my opinion. ssepp^(talk) 17:08, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

It appears that both links should probably be removed. —Travis^talk 17:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Vandals

I am having a problem with vandals on my page, is their a way to block them without blocking innocent editors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anna F C (talk • contribs)

It makes things easier for us if you mention specifically what page you mean. ssepp^(talk) 17:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of the page, you may request to have it semi-protected at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. —Travis^talk 17:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I have a feeling that Anna F.C. is referring to Talk:Warriors (novel series) where she has had several threads removed as violations of WP:TALK guidelines. Her posts were things like this one. Metros 17:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

It could also be about On the Run (book series) which she created. Note that nobody owns a page. Creating it does not mean you alone can decide what should or should not be on the page. Regarding [3], see WP:PLOT and Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#What about article x?.PrimeHunter 17:33, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

How do you correct facts?

I used Wikipedia a few times before I realized that some of the articles are factually unreliable and politically biased. It appears that I have misunderstood something. I was under the impression that I could correct errors in fact. I tried to correct an error, and within a few moments the factual error had reappeared. It appears that I may have broken the weasel rule, and someone corrected me. How should an error correction be handled? Is it necessary to document the correction, for example in this case, citing the law? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Realtat (talk • contribs)

Click on the "discussion" tab for the article and explain what you find to be wrong in the article. It is likely that this has come up in the past and the existing version is the one agreed upon by multiple users. As for weasel words, they are frowned upon. For example, I can say that "some people hate your edits" - but that really means nothing. How many is "some"? You need to be specific and back it up with valid references. -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Read through the policies at WP:PREP, and especially WP:WEASEL. After that, read through WP:CITE and WP:CITET --_ʇuǝɯɯoɔɐqǝɟ 17:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:List of controversial issues is also informative. And a bit depressing. Why can't we all just get along? (Obviously my question is rhetorical because sociobiology explains the inevitability of conflict pretty well.) In any case, if you are looking for actual answers from the Help desk, rather than hypothetical answers, you need to post questions that are actual rather than hypothetical, which means identifying all persons and articles you merely allude to above. It appears you are User:Realtat and the article is Valerie Plame. It goes without saying to anyone familiar with contemporary politics in the United States that this article is going to be controversial. Therefore you need more than just the facts on your side; you must also be extra-compliant with all relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines to avoid giving opponents a pretext for removing your factual content (assuming your content is indeed factual). Also see: Wikipedia:WikiLawyering and WP:GAME. Wikipedia is far from a dispassionate, rigorously logical monolith; it is instead a kind of ecosystem of 47,333,740 registered users and a similarly large number of unregistereds. The behavior at many articles can fall well short of the idealized behavior prescribed in the guidelines. For example, many articles about religion fail to distinguish properly between objectively factual aspects of religions vs. doctrinal claims which are supported by no objective evidence. Religious adherents are in the habit of presenting doctrine as fact, and that habit often carries over to Wikipedia. The same often goes for proponents of political philosophies. Even in articles explicitly dealing with works of literary fiction, contributors sometimes struggle to avoid writing inappropriately in an "in-universe" view. --Teratornis 20:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Measurement system

Which Measurement system does wikipedia use? Can this depend of the type of the article? I couldn't find any informations about this in the Manual of Style. Regards, --Eurocopter tigre 17:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

It depends on the topic. If it is primarily a U.S. topic, miles/feet are used. Otherwise, meters/km are primarily used. When it doesn't make the article look terrible, conversions are added in parenthesis after each unit. -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Units_of_measurement. ssepp^(talk) 17:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Units of measurement are another content item which, in my opinion, should automatically conform to the user's (i.e., the reader's) preference. However, at present we lack the technology to give each user the version of the World Wide Web he or she prefers. We are instead stuck with a one-size-must-fit-all arrangement (or more aptly: kludge) given our present technological shortcomings. --Teratornis 20:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, that is exactly what I need to know. --Eurocopter tigre 20:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

can i view previous versions of pages that have been edited?

specifically, i am looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hfstival a few weeks ago, information was posted about a 2007 festival, but now the information has been taken down. i would like to see that information again, if possible. how can i do that? thanks!

Definitely, just click on 'history' at the top of the article. ssepp^(talk) 17:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The edit summary of the edit where the 2007 festival info was removed ([4]) was "rm false 2007 info, their has been NO ANNOUNCMENT in regards to 2007", so you should probably not rely on this information. ssepp^(talk) 17:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

posting subjects or people on Wikipedia

How can individuals be added

You might want to read Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Criteria_for_notability_of_people. If the individual does not seem to meet the notability criteria then the article might be deleted if you create it anyway. ssepp^(talk) 18:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

FA,GA, Start Class oh my!

I am a member of PokeWiki and while trying to up the rating of some articles I noticed that there in categories: Unessed,Stub,Assesed,Start,FA and GA what are those? -I PWN U ALL 18:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

They're assessments of article quality. More info can be found at WP:1.0/ASSESS. - Zeibura ^(Talk) 18:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Pokémon#Article status. PrimeHunter 20:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Basically, they mean the following:

• Stub: This article is barely started. Maybe a lead sentence and infobox, but only one or two paragraphs of detailed information at most.
• Start: It's been worked on by a few people, but has major gaps or missing context. Sometimes these are amusingly out of balance in their depth of coverage, such as when someone adds a page and a half of information about some minor detail of the subject but the introduction still reads like a stub.
• B: These are the standard articles we have. Useful, more or less gives a complete overview of the subject, but still a work in progress. Probably missing references and lacks equal depth in all areas.
• GA: These pages have been assessed as meeting a "Good" standard of quality. Well referenced, content is understandable to those unacquainted with the subject, no noticeable deficiencies. See WP:GA for details.
• A: Does anybody actually use this class? In theory, I believe it means the article has great content, complete coverage, and has been peer reviewed, but still lacks polish.
• FA: A professional quality article, referenced, stable, complete, and publishable. We put these on the front page. See WP:FA for details.

Hopefully that answers your question. --tjstrf talk 21:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Page Formatting - Spacing between User Boxes

I added some user boxes to my user page. I would like to center them across the top of the page, but I don't know how to display the intermediate spaces. Looking for a help page on this and some other appearance problems I've noticed in the articles. I have used a clumsy work-around to fix some appearance problems, but they may not display correctly on other users' hardware.

I've got a faint idea and I'm usually pretty good at this stuff. How do I change spacing around image boxes, user boxes, &c. the right way? Thanks. -X ile 20:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC) - Talk

I don't know. Try asking User talk:Phaedriel, one of our experts on userpage design. Shalom ^Hello 20:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Category boxes

I have three pages that i have put into one category , which is [[Category:Chelsea F.C. seasons]]. I have used, for each page, the template for the boxes that display the other pages in the category; but it only shows 2 out of 3 of the pages. My Chelsea F.C. 2005-2006 page is the one that deosnt appear in the box. Here is my box using the formula:

{{fb start}} {{Chelsea F.C. seasons}} {{fb end}}

What am I doing wrong? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Azlan2k7 (talk • contribs).

It is in the box from what I can see. And Always sign your posts using four tildes (~~~~). SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 20:34, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I just added Chelsea F.C. 2005-2006 to the box in [5]. The code you describe is used to display the box in an article (and it also adds that article to Category:Chelsea F.C. seasons), but it does not change the content of the box. PrimeHunter 20:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I stroke the false part. To clarify: There is no automatic connection between the contents of the template {{Chelsea F.C. seasons}} (which displays the box) and Category:Chelsea F.C. seasons (which lists articles containing [[Category:Chelsea F.C. seasons]]). The template doesn't read and display what is in the category. The template must be edited manually to add each season to it. PrimeHunter 20:50, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Putting Wikipedia on my menu

Putting Wikipedia on my menu.

Is there any way to make the Wikipedia site a tab on my menu bar? Like google , etc.... Thank you. 20:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Llcarlson (talk • contribs).

Which browser are you using? --Fredrick day 21:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Browser notes and Wikipedia:Tools/Browser tools. --Teratornis 22:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I tried clicking on the links I gave above to see if they might actually help the questioner figure out how to customize the bookmarks and/or toolbar in his/her Web browser. Not sure about that, but I did see this: Wikipedia:Tools/Browser tools/Mozilla Firefox/Extension: Wikipedia toolbar which looks like it could be helpful for Help desk volunteers, for example if we were to construct our own Firefox menus to inject template references to boilerplate answers to frequently asked questions. For example, when several more people each day ask how to create a new page, a help desk volunteer would only have to click a few times to answer. --Teratornis 22:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Should I move a page?

I want to create an article about the painter Neil Faulkner. However, there is another person called Neil Faulkner - an archaeologist, and there is a Wikipedia article about him. The article is called just "Neil Faulkner". To create an article about the painter with the same name I suppose I should move the existing "Neil Faulkner" page to "Neil Faulkner (archaeologist)" and then create a page named "Neil Faulkner (painter)". Is this really the thing I should do? One more thing: I read that when I move "Neil Faulkner" to "Neil Faulkner (archaeologist)" a redirect page called "Neil Faulkner" will appear. This means that when someone searches for "Neil Faulkner" this redirect page will appear. But it will redirect to the archaeologist and not to the painter, and the person may be searching either for the archaeologist or the painter. So is it a good idea to transform this redirect page into a disambiguation page listing both persons? Thank you! Trilby*foxglove 21:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

For just two people with the same name, you can do what you describe. Or you can just leave the archaeologist article where it is and put a message at the top saying For the article about Neal Falkner the painter, see Neal Falkner (painter). Dismas|^(talk) 22:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Dismas! :) I think I'll choose the first option because adding a link to the page of the archaeologist makes the painter look inferior in my opinion. Anyway, thanks for the reassurance!

Trilby*foxglove 07:32, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

design

On my userpage, the typical code for creating a collapsible box (to hold my userboxen) is not working for some reason. Any help would be much appreciated. VanTucky ^(talk) 22:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Try using Template:Userboxtop instead of <div> markup. This just requires placing your userbox list between {{userboxtop}} and {{userboxbottom}}. For example —

{{userboxtop

| toptext = VanTucky's Interests}}

{{User contrib|8500|VanTucky}}

{{userboxbottom}}

should give you →

VanTucky's Interests

8,500+This user has made more than 8,500 contributions to Wikipedia.

Check out how I did mine here.
Jim Dunning | talk 23:08, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Plot Naruto:Shippuden

I can not find this page.Its about a show that my little sister watches.So I want to give her a copy for her birthay.So please put it back online in wikipedia.So my sister and other viewers can read this magnificant page,I read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.139.221.252 (talk • contribs)

The page you are referring to was nominated for deletion, and after debate the consensus was that it should be deleted. You can read about the decision-making process here. Giles Bennett ^{(Talk, Contribs)} 22:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I skimmed that enormous deletion debate rather quickly, looking for any suggestion by anyone to transwiki the article to another wiki that specializes in television shows (for example, perhaps The TV IV, which seems friendlier to TV show articles than Wikipedia is, judging from its About page, and lo, it has a Naruto article), but good grief, I didn't see one. Can it really be that all those deletion debate participants (especially the "keep" voters) are unaware that thousands of other wikis exist, almost all of them with policies different than Wikipedia's? I got the sense that people were fighting over the article as if Wikipedia is the only option. Granted, Wikipedia is the most-visited wiki, but please tell me I missed something and our current questioner can find the article on some other wiki now. --Teratornis 22:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, on a closer skim I saw a proposal to transwiki the page to Naruto Wikia. --Teratornis 23:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

This very help desk

My question is about this help desk: specifically, archiving. Right now, all the questions, stretching back to June 26, are still on the main page. Is this page bot-archived? And if not, how would I go about archiving it, to improve loading times? I'm actually starting to notice the lag on a cable connection. Charlie-talk to me-what I've done 23:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

It's auto-archived by User:RefDeskBot. Perhaps we should archive more frequently? Probably something to take up on the talk page... tiZom_(2¢) 23:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, it looks like the bot hasn't edited since June 26, which would certainly explain things. VectorPotential has already left a message on the owner's talk page, so I guess we can just wait and see. Charlie-talk to me-what I've done 23:50, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

If RefDeskBot isn't up and running within the next few days I'll resume manually archiving this page, for more information on the problem: Wikipedia_talk:Reference_desk#Archiving--VectorPotential^Talk 11:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

locked?

why are some pages locked from editing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.126.171 (talk • contribs) 19:44, 5 July 2007

See Wikipedia:Protection policy. PrimeHunter 00:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)