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October 18

Writing an article about a project I am working on

Hello. Is there a specific page of information about writing/editing articles about things that you yourself are working on? Not articles about *you* per say - I've seen the autobiography page.

Specifically I'm wondering about sourcing information. So let's say I add a piece of information that I do not cite. I know that's against the rules - but because it's *me*, the guy working on the project, that added the information, does it get any special treatment from being "straight from the horses' mouth"?. Or are you even allowed to do this because it violates "original research" rules? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.121.241.178 (talk) 01:16, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

If you haven't already read it, see Wikipedia:Starting an article. It is highly unlikely that an article about 'something you yourself are working on' would meet Wikipedia notability standards (It would at minimum have to have been discussed by published third-party reliable sources). In the unlikely event that it met our notability requirements, you would still be unable to 'cite yourself', except where this was published elsewhere. If you are doing original research, Wikipedia isn't an appropriate place to write about it. If you are looking for a site that might possibly accept such material, try Wikiversity - though whether your material is acceptable there will depend on what it is you are researching, amongst other things. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

international Journal of Earth Sciences and Engineering-IJEE

Sir Kindly list the IJEE journal in wikipedia Prof DVREDDY-Editor in chief -IJEE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.254.131.253 (talk) 02:56, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is completely a volunteer effort. Every one of our 6,818,907 articles was written by a person who was interested enough in some subject to sit down and write about it. Since the Journal appears to be notable, the fact that there is no article just means no one has yet been motivated enough to start it. You could try requesting that the article be created at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Applied arts and sciences#Engineering.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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2011/2012 Admission is in progress.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Free2tech (talk • contribs) 06:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

This is the help desk. It appears you are not asking a question. If you have questions, please ask. Ikkian|talk|contributions 06:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like he is asking if his polytechnic can be added to this page. Weakopedia (talk) 14:11, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. If I understand your question correctly, you are asking if we can add The Gateway Polytechnic Saapade to some sort of directory. Wikipedia is not a directory. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, subject to certain inclusion guidelines.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 16:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Custer hit

Curly's recap of the fight said he saw Custer take a mortal wound but not from where.I've see Custer's white buckskin coat and over the left side of Custer's heart is a patch covering an Army-issued Colt .44 caliber or Springfield carbine .65 caliber bullet hole.The patch is too big to be covering a hole from an arrow or Indian's rifle even if they could get close enough to hit him there and Curly swore there was troopers' unbelievable fire that kept the Indians back and moving to fast to get off a shot.So there's a valid question;who shot Custer,a trooper,or was it suicide to go down in glory? If you can get anyone who can to open the coat's showcase in the museum and open the coat to accurately calibrate the bullet hole size,we can have an answer.Not comfortable with the latter possibility. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.135.170.154 (talk) 07:17, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:20, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

How to provide an external link if the URL has "["?

To provide the correct link in a Ref Desk answer, I want to use [url text]. Unfortunately, the URL has a "[" character in it and this is messing up the link. How do I get the link to work? Astronaut (talk) 09:29, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

You need to use percent encoding. More specifically, each instance of [ should become %5B and each instance of ] should become %5D. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:39, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Ah, that's the page I was looking for. And thank you for fixing the links for me. Astronaut (talk) 09:55, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Also see Help:Magic words#Paths, e.g. {{urlencode:string}} (input encoded for use in URLs). --Teratornis (talk) 19:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Paola_Davoli

The article has been rejected for "unsourced suggestions or sources that are not reliable per the verifiability policy". After having read the "Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources" page it is still not clear to me which of the cited sources are not reliable and why. Could you please explain it in detail ? I'm posting here because I didn't find a way to contact the first reviewer. I tried to ask for a second review at Wikipedia:Requests_for_feedback/2011_October_7: no reply. This is my first article so any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance ! --Brubix (talk) 10:59, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

The problem is that Wikipedia needs reliable and independent sources and you only provided references which are reliable, but not independent. Please try to find some (online/offline) newspaper articles, (online/offline) magazine articles, (online/offline) books, etc. about this person. Please reas also WP:PROF. Regards, mabdul 12:48, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

(Edit Conflict - need to type quicker) Best I can do is run through the sources as they're shown at the moment. Source #1 is the subject's bio page at the university. This is fine to confirm that the person is indeed a professor, or that she does work there, but doesn't show how the person is Notable. I mean, everyone who works there gets such a page, yes? It does not make them notable. OK, so source #2 is a page describing the Soknopaiou Nesos Project. The page linked (after you select a language) does not actually mention the subject at all. Source #3 is a similar description of some of the excavations at Amheida, but again the source does not mention the subject of the article. Source #4 is a list of the articles and other publications by the subject, hosted at the university's website (the same one as source #1). Again, this is good to confirm that she wrote things, but not necessarily to show that she is notable. The concern from source #1 applies here, as well; everyone who works there and has published would have such a page. If the works themselves are notable, you can cite them directly (and there are formats for that).

Your best bet here is to find news articles or journals that discuss the subject or her work, and do so in such a way as to show that she is notable. The sources present don't do that. Anything independent of the subject (and her university) would be ideal. Hope this helps, UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 12:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your quick and detailed reply. So the first problem is not the reliability of the cited sources but their indipendence from the subject. As for the issues you pointed out please note that: source #2 does actually cite her in the home page of the project as director but it's true that it cannot be considered "indipendent"; source #3 is undoubtedly indipendent from the subject, belonging to New York University, and cites her as archaeological director of the project in the Directory page. I do understand that "notability" is the key concept here: I'll work on this. Thanks. --Brubix (talk) 14:45, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

The issue was that it wasn't readily obvious where to look for the subject's name; if you're using the directory to confirm her posting at the project, you might consider linking specifically to that directory. Beyond that, good luck! UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 17:50, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Files for Deletion

The Files for deletion page requests that the uploader be notified by adding:

{{subst:fdw|File_name.ext}}

to their talk page. But instead of doing anything useful, it just appears as:

"{{subst:fdw|File_name.ext}}"

It reproduces here to something useful if the 'nowiki' tags are omitted but not on a user talk page. DieSwartzPunkt (talk) 14:36, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

It placed the warning as expected when I used it on your talkpage. Jarkeld (talk) 14:41, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... It appears to be working as expected.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 15:59, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, DieSwartzPunkt is confusing Commons and the English Wikipedia which have different templates and processes. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:12, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

I am not accepted as member from wikipedia. I am pure mathematician and16:32, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

and I am a member of Wikipedia

I have written in no time we can walk an infinite line, and that was deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ameulen (talk • contribs) 16:32, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

If you add material to Wikipedia, especially in mathematics, you need to cite independent reliable sources that support your addition. Wikipedia does not accept original research. TNXMan 16:34, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Can't see images.

I can't see the pictures on any of the wikipedia pages. Pictures are visible on all other webpages. I have the newest JAVA and ADOBE products. Any ideas?

You may have accidentally added the site //upload.wikimedia.org to your browser's list of forbidden web sites. If you can't work out how to undo this, then post your browser name and version here, and someone will give you step-by-step instructions. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:02, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

cant edit david beckhams' internet external links section

hi, i am trying to edit david beckhams' internet external links section, at which link 31 is inactive and i would like to add the correct link. when hitting "edit" all i get is '===Internet=='reflist|colwidth=30em}}'

how can i edit that section?

Click on the up arrow ^ beside the number 31. That will take you to the section where the reference is used. Click on the [edit] link at the head of that section. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:41, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia content displaying on Facebook

I noticed that the organization I work for has a Wikipedia page and also has a Facebook page with content which states "From Wikipedia". My question how can I find out who created (or who administers) the Facebook page? Is that something Wikipedia or Facebook does automatically? I've recently been put in charge of administering our presence on Facebook and I cannot determine who is administering the Facebook page (if anyone). I realize this may be a question for the Facebook support team, but any help would be appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmf10pitt (talk • contribs) 20:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it's a question for Facebook. Wikipedia has no control over the Facebook page. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:37, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Here is our standard reply from Template:HD/facebook:

Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

My article was not accepted

Hello,

My article was not accepted due to citation of third party sources. Can you explain what a third party source is? I'm assuming it's a quote from another person on a secondary source??? Also, I sent copyright permissions to permissions-en to accompany the article. How do I know these were used to review the article. Nturnerjj (talk) 20:44, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Third-party sources. I don't have access to permissions-en but if the review did not mention possible copyright violations then it's not important whether the reviewer has seen the permission. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:25, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Copyright permissions are usually irrelevant except for images, because it is rare that copyright text is suitable in tone and content for incorporation into an encyclopaedic article. --ColinFine (talk) 00:04, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Children's version of Wikipedia?

I could swear during one of my readings of articles in Wikipedia that I came across a modified science article that was written in simpler language somewhere. I got the impression that there is a section in Wikipedia that is like that. Is that not true? I have been unable to locate that section again. Thanks. Mylittlezach (talk) 21:01, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

There is a Simple English Wikipedia at http://simple.wikipedia.org. Some science topics have a more accessible version here at the normal English Wikipedia, but it varies. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Some articles here at the normal English Wikipedia include a link saying "Simple English" under "Languages" in the left pane, for example General relativity which has both this and a link to the more accessible Introduction to general relativity which is still at the normal English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Didn't think I was losing my mind! Mylittlezach (talk) 21:37, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Talk Page tagging

I recently created a WikiProject task force, and I need help with tagging. When I put {{WikiProject Football|class=FA|Importance=Top |national-teams-task-force = yes }} it doesn't work, even though I typed the code. If it helps, this is the task force: Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/National teams task force Bar Code Symmetry (Talk) 22:13, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

You'll need to have Template:WikiProject Football edited for you; so far you have only edited the documentation page. This is a fully-protected template so you'll have to request the edit at Template talk:WikiProject Football. There's a similar request at the bottom of that talk page which you may be able to copy and adapt. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:48, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Editing a New Article

Hello,

I just created an article called "Leonard Beckum" my advisor at Stanford. So I made it, but am having trouble adding a reference. I also cannot capitalize his last name in the tile of the article. I have tried a bunch of combos to add references but cannot seem to figure it out. Please help. Thank you so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucasscottmark (talk • contribs) 22:20, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

I fixed it. You should read the how to's on doing things. The basic things are when you hit edit, and there is a button that says help that teaches the basics. You should also read this page and this page. Also, on talk pages hit the four tildes button on the bottom that says "Sign your posts on talk pages:" It automatically puts your signature. Bar Code Symmetry (Talk) 22:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Changing the web address title of my page

Hello,

Thank you for your help! So Dr. Beckum's last name in the web address title is still not capitalized. Is there a way I can change the web address title itself? Thank you in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucasscottmark (talk • contribs) 22:42, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

The article itself is at the correct Leonard Beckum page. If you are using the redirect with the old title, Leonard beckum, then the Web address in your browser will display the name of the redirect, thus "Leonard_beckum" in this case. Regards, —{|Retro00064|☎talk|✍contribs|} 22:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC).

The article has been deleted as a copyright violation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:12, 18 October 2011 (UTC)