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August 20[edit]

Cannot upload photos[edit]

Hi! i cannot upload pictures. I dont know what happened. They always interapt by sistem.Could you please help me with it?Thx

Listing page for Hungary in the Olympic games[edit]

Hi there:

I just added this link to Facebook: Hungary at the Olympics. I noticed there is a flag with a Swastika that pops up next to it, so I assume someone has added a hidden image to the HTML in the header. Could you please check it out?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.176.225 (talk) 00:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've found it, though I can't see any difference in the article as it shows directly - could you take another look, and let me know if it has gone? AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:52, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ooops! No, the flag I removed should have been there - it was for the 1936 Olympics, which were of course staged in Nazi-dominated Germany. If the icon is showing anywhere other than in the appropriate place, letus know. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:00, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File deleted for lack of license[edit]

My Commons file [File:Lee Valley White Water Centre (1st gate set, 2012 Olympics).svg] was deleted for lack of a license. When I learned of this, I accidentally re-uploaded it to English Wikipedia instead of Commons. I would like to use the same name, so I would like to delete the English Wikipedia file before uploading the identical file, with the identical name, to Commons. How do I delete a Wikipedia file? HowardMorland (talk) 02:34, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. Since Commons would not let me upload it there, I just used (in the article) the one I accidentally uploaded here. HowardMorland (talk) 03:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Templates and expansion depth[edit]

I have been around here a while but I have only now encountered the message Page exceeded the expansion depth when editing a page. Seems they all go to Category:Pages where expansion depth is exceeded. Currently about 16.000 pages in it. Two of the templates that seem to do it are {{Automatic taxobox}} and also {{atn}} when there is no following archive page. I am no expert on templates or coding but should this be sorted out? -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 05:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this looks bad. I suggest you post at Village pump (technical). -- John of Reading (talk) 07:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try that. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 22:10, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

highest score for spider solitaire[edit]

after playing over 2100 spider solitaire inter games. as of 8-7-2012 WITHOUT CHEATING I got a score of 1266. Ican even send you a photo of my screen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.234.115.41 (talk) 07:06, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia articles should only report on what has been previously published in reliable sources such as books, newspapers, respected news websites and such like. If your feat is no amazing that it attracts media coverage, then, just possibly, it could be mentioned in a Wikipedia article. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

About a deleted page[edit]

Hi everybody, I published a page here Teun Voeten (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) the page was about the journalist and war photographer Teun Voeten.

I had been away for a couple of weeks and I didn't check wikipedia during this time. When I came back the page was deleted.

I have already left a message to the editor that deleted the page, and I'm waiting a reply. In the meantime I want to ask you for some suggestions: is it possible to have a copy of the deleted page? How? How much shall I wait before re-publish it? How if the editor doesn't reply? The page passed the control of editors and after a period in the Articles for creation was published. Now if I want to republish the same page with the corrections do I have to pass again from article for creations or can I publish it straight on? How do I know if the topic is blocked?

Hoping someone helps me. Thanks a lot for your time and kindness

Ransfortstraat (talk) 10:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a good idea to have the article back, as it was deleted as being a copyright violation. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 11:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, you must have meant to notify Crisco 1492 rather than Who. FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 11:39, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Check your email. I have sent you two. The first contains the portions of the article that were not a copyvio, meaning the entire body has been removed, but I sent you the first sentence, the section headers, the bibliography, external links section and reference section with the markup template. I then realized you might want the inline citation text with their markup, so I sent that in a separate email. Everything else was a direct copyright violation and cannot be used, nor sent. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit please[edit]

--109.153.122.104 (talk) 12:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)My Wikipedia entry states that I am currently the Deputy Chairman of TFS Ltd, when in fact I am the Chairman and have never been the Deputy. How do I obtain the necessary correction ?[reply]

HON RICHARD ALSTON

Thank you for pointing out the error. I have corrected the page. Maproom (talk) 12:41, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reference formatting[edit]

This is really only kind of some small cosmetic problem, but here we go. When giving page numbers for a source using {{Rp}} and for a statement I want to give a range of pages plus a single additional page, such as [1] : 215 : 217–218 , is what I gave here the correct formatting? I simply used two instances of {{Rp}} directly behind each other. Is that the correct way to do it, or is there perhaps an advanced version of the template where I can specify more than one range of pages? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 12:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can just write out the range in one use, like this: {{Rp|215, 217-218}}, which formats as: 215, 217–218  RP, takes whatever you type, so you could even use something unusual you might need like "front page" or "App. C", pp. 1" for example.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:29, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I was not completely sure about how exactly the template works, but what you propose produces exactly the result I was seeking. Thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 12:36, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Anytime.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help with appearance of Wikipedia (font size) in Mozilla Firefox[edit]

About a week ago, I logged into Wikipedia using Mozilla Firefox and the size of the font on all Wikipedia pages has increased from the default size to a much larger size. When I log in using Google Chrome or IE, I do not have this problem. It is only a problem on Mozilla Firefox, which is my default and preferred browser. Other websites (e.g. Google, Facebook, etc) have not increased their font size, just Wikipedia. How can I reduce the appearance of the default font size when I log in? Thanks. Rangasyd (talk) 13:34, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia does not set the font size, but leaves it up to the browser. You may have accidentally changed the text size while viewing a Wikipedia page, and now Firefox is "helpfully" using that size for all Wikipedia pages. Try View > Zoom > Reset in Firefox and see if that fixes it. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:46, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You can also reset the zoom to 100% with Ctrl+0 or adjust it with Ctrl++ and Ctrl+-. Ctrl and the the mouse wheel can also change size. Many users do this accidentally. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:15, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Fixed. Rangasyd (talk) 14:53, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

sources[edit]

how can I obtain a source for data provided in one of your articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leekwan337 (talkcontribs) 13:38, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to quote the article itself as a source then see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Otherwise we need to know which data and article you refer to. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

outdated information please updated[edit]

hello sir , iam making a project on telecommunications in India , and i found that one of Wikipedia page about telecommunications in India is outdated

List of mobile network operators of India (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

please update this with new info at

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-08-03/news/33020038_1_second-highest-addition-subscriber-base-user-base — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.185.77.75 (talk) 14:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You could be bold and update it yourself.--ukexpat (talk) 17:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Of if you are not confident in doing that, Talk:List of mobile network operators of India is the best place to suggest a change. --ColinFine (talk) 17:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Setting Background color for Table Header Row[edit]

How can I set background color for the entire Table Header Row?

Actually I am trying to make a table sortable which has background color. List of districts of Andhra Pradesh

I have done some changes which are in my Sandbox

Please help me get the background colors in the layout in my sandbox from the original page.

Thanks in Advance

RajivBandi (talk) 12:51, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I made some changes to your sandbox. See if that is what you wanted. One issue remains, I can't seem to have color and unsortable for the official website column. I'll keep checking, but it doesn't really hurt to have it sortable.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 13:45, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed the last column now. --SPhilbrick(Talk) 13:48, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you SPhilbrick for helping with the formatting. I was looking for a way to put background color for entire row with specifying it for each cell. -- RajivBandi (talk) 18:44, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Methodist Homes for the Aged (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Please can you advise how to change the MHA logo on the wikipedia page and how to change the main title on the main page.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Customerservices (talkcontribs) 14:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To change the logo, you or someone will need to upload the new logo, giving the required copyright permission for its use. (In my experience, getting copyright permissions right is difficult, and gives a lot of trouble to those who have not done it before. I wish you luck.)
I don't understand "change the main title on the main page". Do you want to change the title of the article Methodist_Homes_for_the_Aged? What do you want to change it to, and why? Maproom (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

declined submission - style[edit]

Hi!

This is my article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Caligola (music project)

İt has been declined for the third time now - the sources should be fine now, but İ don't know what about the style. What else can İ change? İ'd be grateful for a littie bit of help for İ have changed it so many times now and İ honestly don't know what else to do! Thanks to anyone who can help me!!!Andrea Schweinberger (talk) 15:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First there should not be any trivia section per WP:MOS. The information from the trivia should distributed over other sections. Second the history section actually mixes history with information about music style, development and genres. The article is actually not so bad. Ruslik_Zero 17:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You can look at The Beatles as an example. Ruslik_Zero 17:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could it be possible to watch move logs, deletion logs etc. separately?[edit]

  1. Is there any way I can see move logs or deletion logs separately in Watchlist, RecentChanges, RecentChangesLinked or anything similar?
  2. Is it technically possible?
  3. And does it worth proposing to include them?

Thanks in advance. ···Vanischenu「m/Talk」 15:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Try asking on WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:02, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit count numbers are different even after subtracting deleted edits[edit]

Why does the edit count tool that is found through your contributions give very different numbers than the number you get from your preferences, even after subtracting deleted edits?--108.27.100.194 (talk) 15:41, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm seeing only a slight difference: for me, "My preferences" says 140,261 currently while the edit count tool says 140,451. I think this is because the two methods count page moves differently; see Wikipedia:Edit count. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:52, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Replag explains it precisely, I think.···Vanischenu「m/Talk」 01:23, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that really depends on which number is lower. - Purplewowies (talk) 23:44, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A new article[edit]

Hello,

I just finished creating a new article about a poet, and I can't find it by searching her name in google. How can I see it? does it take time? Also, when I write her name on google, one of the sites that it does link me to, is to my sendbox where I practiced editing the article. I deleting what I wrote in the sandbox but I still see a link to that page, and to the image of her that I uploaded to wiki. thanks. Meitalklachuk (talk) 16:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)meitalklachukMeitalklachuk (talk) 16:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, her photo file that I uploaded to wikicommons and then transfered to Wikipedia is seen as an entry when I write her name on google: File:Rachel Tzvia Back.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - how can I delete it from there? thanks. Meitalklachuk (talk) 16:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)meitalklachukMeitalklachuk (talk) 16:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It takes time for the Google search engine to update its cash. You should wait for a few days. Ruslik_Zero 16:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You can add {{noindex}} to your sandbox, to stop it from being examined by search engine robots. See Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing for details. It's generally only for talk page and userspace, though. As far as changing search results to make a page rank higher or lower, we cannot affect that, nor should we be worrying about it. We do not have any sort of arrangement with Google, their formula decides where a certain page ranks automatically. See PageRank if you're curious. BigNate37(T) 16:51, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response! can you tell me how to remove the link to her photo file on wikipedia? for some reason it also appears as a link in addition to the wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meitalklachuk (talkcontribs) 16:58, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why you're worried about the image showing up on search results. Given time the article will probably rank higher than the image, because it will generate more traffic. Preventing useful content from appearing on searches is counter to the goal of the Wikimedia Foundation. BigNate37(T) 17:09, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How do I submit photos?[edit]

Hi, I have additional photos of the Ameila Earhart memorial in Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. Just wondering if and how I can submit them to the Amelia Earhart page, or if that is possible.

Amelia Earhart (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Cheers and Thanks Talhsoma (talk) 16:24, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Except in special circumstances, we require all images to be licensed under a free licence. In those exceptional circumstances it is best that the images are uploaded here, at Wikipedia. It sounds like your images will not fall into that category, so I'd like to direct you to our sister site, Wikimedia Commons, which is where all of our free media is stored (so that every language of Wikipedia can use your contributions). They have a guide at Commons:Contributing your own work that should help. BigNate37(T) 16:43, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just a little note, BigNate37's advice applies only if you are the photographer. If anyone other than you actually took the photos the rules become a bit more complicated. Roger (talk) 17:10, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah thank you for pointing that out, I made that assumption without even realizing it. BigNate37(T) 17:16, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doreen Giuliano's page was vandalized[edit]

Doreen Giuliano's page, the URL listed here, was recently vandalized. If you look at the history of the page, you will see that the page has been tampered with and things have been changed. I would like to get this fixed as soon as possible and also protect this page from this happening again. Can someone please tell me how to properly report this?

I would also like to protect her son, John Giuca's, page from vandalism as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdavis2 (talkcontribs) 18:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doreen Giuliano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

thanks.

Mdavis2 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:25, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I need someone to help me please- the page has been altered and we need to have it changed back and protected as soon as possible. See the link here:

Doreen Giuliano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The vandalism has been fixed, however we would still like this page to be protected from this in the future. Can someone please tell me how to go about doing so?

Thank you.

Mdavis2 (talk) 18:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Mdavis2 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:35, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doreen Giuliano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I have undone one edit made in April, and will keep an eye on both this article and John Giuca. However, the article is unlikely to be protected from editing after only one bad edit. This is, after all, the "encyclopedia that anyone can edit", and other editors should be free to improve the articles in any way they see fit, subject to Wikipedia's policies. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I got a message saying I edited something (or someone at my ISP address did) yet I did not, what is going on?[edit]

I received a message when I logged on to wikipedia (no idea why I would receive a message), it took me to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:178.73.124.82&redirect=no

I have never edited any article on wikipedia, I don't even have an account. I don't have any desire to edit wikipedia either. Why is it saying that I did this when I did not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.73.124.82 (talk) 19:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Most people have Internet providers that change the IP address (which identifies you) every time you connect to the Internet. Most times they reuse addresses, so someone else made the edit and now that you have the address, you have got the message. This has happened to me as well. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 19:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is explained in the box at the bottom of your link. The edits by the IP address can be seen at Special:Contributions/178.73.124.82. The message is about a 2011 edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the explanation :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.73.124.82 (talk) 20:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Trusts[edit]

where does the trust go after someone dies? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.93.77.233 (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Next time, ask in the Reference Desk, but look at Trust law. Us441(talk)(contribs) 19:32, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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