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November 20

Fraudulent information about Falk Rovik on Wikipedia

Dear Wikipedia,

Please remove the fraudulent information about me under the presentation of the ousted Norwegian Minister Erik Solheim in Wikipedia.

It is wrong to call anyone a convicted murderer when the fact is I am acquitted for homicide.

More info: http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items12/RovikandWikileaks.pdf

Best regards

Falk Rovik — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.191.140.247 (talk) 02:43, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Can you provide an independent reliable source to back that up? From what I can find on the web, and relying on Google translate, "Falk Rune Rovik shot and killed the owner of Papa Sigolo in Oslo, Sagaheddin Payaslioglu in 1997. But Rovik was not sane and sentenced to ten years' protection. In 1998 he was declared healthy and released" - from Aftenposten. [1] I'm not familiar with Norwegian law, and am unsure whether a finding of insanity (as seems to be indicated here) amounts to an 'acquittal'. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:16, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I've asked a question regarding the judicial system at WP:NORWAY. Hack (talk) 04:49, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Image Upload

I can upload a image which I have taken by my camera. But can I upload that same image after uploading that in Facebook.--pratyya (talk) 02:55, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

If you took the picture yourself, you should have no problem with uploading the picture to Commons. The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 03:21, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

To more directly answer your question, yes. It's your image. You can do with it what you please. Dismas|^(talk) 04:33, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Screenshots of News Anchors from TV?

Can I upload a screenshot of a news anchor or reporter from TV and use it on an article?--Xxhopingtearsxx (talk) 08:00, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

You can, but only as long as the image meets all of the non-free content criteria. Television screenshots are normally only acceptable for critical commentary (see WP:NFCI#5). I can't give a better answer without knowing the specific article in question. (Also, as a non-native english speaker, news anchor refers to a news presenter, right?) -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:12, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, a news anchor is a presenter. Dismas|^(talk) 08:24, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Dismas. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:24, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Well, Randi Kaye of CNN USA for example. She is the presenter of the weekend breakfast news program. I haven't found a free image online that I can use.--Xxhopingtearsxx (talk) 09:41, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

It depends on what the image will be used for in the article. If it is only for depicting the person in question, we generally don't allow it if the person is still alive (see WP:NFC#UUI point 1.), because in that case it is possible to create a free alternative that would serve the same purpose as the non-free image and thus the non-free image would be violating WP:NFCC#1. If it is for depicting some particular aspect important to the persons life where a free image that would serve the same purpose cannot be created, then it might be allowable. It depends on the specific image and article in question. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:17, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Where's my new password?

I lost my password of en.wikipedia, so I request new thing as 'Reset password',which send it to my e-mail.

But it isn't. My mailbox is still claen. What's wrong? I use Naver email. Is it problem?

P.S I'm User:Reiro --61.75.92.243 (talk) 08:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Did you remember to click the "verify email" link sent to you when you registered? If not, you may be able to get thename back at WP:UNSURP. It is probably either the email wasn't verified, or something strange going on. Mdann52 (talk) 11:06, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

If you fill out the "Username" field at Special:PasswordReset then the "E-mail address" field is ignored. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:35, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Why is this requested move not listed?

Why is the requested move at Talk:Operation_Pillar_of_Defense#Requested_move_to_2012_Gaza_Conflict not listed at Wikipedia:Requested_moves#November_20.2C_2012? --Gerrit ^CUTEDH 08:44, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

No-one's done it yet. Why don't you do it? Britmax (talk) 08:49, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/RMCD bot shows no edits for 12 hours. I don't know why. Bots are often out of action temporarily. You can add it manually. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:24, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Help needed for Non-Free content & licensing

Hi. I recently uploaded File:RB Stratos test jump - Felix Baumgartner in free fall ((c) Luke Aikins Red Bull Content Pool).jpg and feel unable to cope with licence and possibly Non-free "tags". (c) Luke Aikins, Red Bull Content Pool should show up "somehow". Can someone please show me by editing the image description, to see for a later time what I should have done? Thanks, [w.] 09:09, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I am not an expert on this area, but it seems to me that you are trying to do something which cannot be done. As I understand it, either an image is released by its owner under an acceptable licence (which does not include either 'Wikipedia only' or 'non-commercial' uses), or it meets the criteria for using non-free content. But the latter are entirely about the availability and use of the image, and the intention of the owner is of no relevance, I think. If the image is to be used, the description page must show how its use meets the criteria in WP:NFC, and its provenance is of no significance. In my opinion, this image does not meet the criterion " Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding", and so should not be used, but others may disagree. You might get a more authoritative reply at WP:NFCR. --ColinFine (talk) 10:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I listed the file for non-free content review at Wikipedia:Non-free content review#File:RB Stratos test jump - Felix Baumgartner in free fall ((c) Luke Aikins Red Bull Content Pool).jpg. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:36, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

TX to both of you. Let's just things happen... I thaught the file would be informative/illustrative within both articles, but I will not care any more. -- [w.] 23:22, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Migration

Migrate guest os from one Ubuntu server to another without shared storage how it is possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KavithaThanapal (talk • contribs) 10:21, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I suggest you ask this question at the computing section of the reference desk. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 10:30, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

deleat a book out of my reader

My — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.179.71.23 (talk) 11:52, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

It's not clear to me what exactly you are referring to, but if you are referring to a Wikipedia book, please see Help:Books. If you want to have a Wikipedia book deleted, please see Help:Books/FAQ#How do I delete my book?. If that is not what you meant, please try to ask a more specific question. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 13:20, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Where are disambiguation pages listed for deletion?

Where are disambiguation pages listed for deletion? Wikipedia:Disambiguation does not specify where DaB pages are listed for deletion. HD 2008 advise seems to say Disambiguation pages listed for deletion at WP:AfD or possibly WP:RfD. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:38, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

These examples suggest AfD is the place to go. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:42, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, AfD. Definitely not RfD, and MfD nominations should be closed as wrong venue like Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/CAMRA (disambiguation) and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/300-399 (disambiguation). PrimeHunter (talk) 13:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for the feed back. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:18, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

I have questions about conduct on the Talk pages

I posted on the talk page, but did not edit the article, of Peter Duesberg. I am not happy with the response I got from the people who edited that article and who apparently wrote the article. I can go into more detail once someone replies to me.JonErber (talk) 13:47, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Peter Duesberg (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "go into more detail". If you wish to explain yourself more completely on the talk page, you may certainly do so (but remember that there may come the time to drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass, too). On the other hand, if you mean, "Is there something else that I can do?" consider the options presented at Dispute Resolution. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 13:55, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I've read through your talk page posting. I think you (JonErber) my not really know how Wikipedia works. Although you've been registered for a few years you have made very few edits and I suspect you may be unfamiliar with Wikipedia policies. You need to make sure you're familiar with the following Wikipedia policies before you go any further: WP:NPOV, WP:RS, WP:UNDUE and WP:CONSENSUS. Firstly, no one editor or group of editors own an article. There are no "superiors" to whom you can "go over their head" if you don't like what's in an article. The article results from the consensus that emerges from anyone (literally anyone) who wishes to participate in its editing. To change it, you have to become involved in its editing. Having said that, there are dispute resolution processes if there is deadlock between the editors concerned. Secondly, all Wikipedia does is report what reliable sources (as defined in WP:RS) say about the subject of the article. Original research and our own opinions are not permitted in the article - only what the reliable sources say, rightly or wrongly. At the same time, we must not give undue prominence to minority views - see WP:UNDUE. But it is important to note that Wikipedia's job is not to give a balanced view of the subject independent of the reliable sources but to give a balanced view of the reliable sources. Howver, special rules apply to editing articles about living people: these are in WP:BLP and you should look at that.

Without commenting on the content of your dispute, the correct thing for you to do is to return to the Talk page and produce reliable sources that support the contentions you are making and persuade others that you are correct. You also need to say exactly what you want to change. I cannot see you refer to one source in the thread, nor suggest specific word changes. If you do that and reach consensus, then you need to edit the article accordingly. Most likely no one's going to do it for you. If however, you cannot persuade the other editors that your sources mean that the article should change then you can follow one of the dispute resolution processes. But to date, you haven't done any of the basics yet. DeCausa (talk) 14:12, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia page for a singer

I have been trying to post a Wikipedia page for a particular singer, with the permission of her agent. I have been having trouble posting pictures because it says that I am not authorized to do so, but I DO have permission. Is there something else I have to do in order to get this page up on the Wikipedia site with the pictures?

Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.106.10.210 (talk) 14:59, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

First, if you are working with the agent, that creates a conflict of interest, and you probably shouldn't be editing her article at all. See our conflict of interest policy for details. As for images, you need to get the artist to release them to the world. In general, the best way to do that is to have her put a note on her website releasing the images under a Creative Commons license: see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/ for details. We can can use CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, and CC-BY-ND-SA material.—Kww(talk) 15:26, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I don't think we cant accept images with a "No Derivatives" restriction. See Wikipedia:File copyright tags/Free licenses for the full list. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:54, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

File Uploading

Can I upload a image which was modified from another wikipedia image?--pratyya (talk) 15:18, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

This seems to work best for pictures at Commons. You go to the description page there (there is a link on the image file page and find a link under the thumbnail on the image file page (somewhere near the bottom) that allows you to do that. Carptrash (talk) 15:22, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

That works here too. Find the Upload a new version of this file link under the thumbnail. Carptrash (talk) 15:35, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Carptrash's replies assume you want to overwrite an existing image with a better image. It sounds to me like you want to create a new separate image based on an existing image. Whether this is allowed depends on the license. Which image do you want to modify for which purpose? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:41, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

In light of your next question immediately below, if your intention is to modify a copyrighted image or logo (for use in a userbox for example) then please don't. Astronaut (talk) 18:57, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

File Uploading

I have uploaded a wrong file. Now I want that deleted. What can I do?--pratyya (talk) 15:44, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

It depends on the circumstances. The only file you have uploaded is apparently commons:File:WWFLogo98dislike.png. It was recently uploaded to commons and is unused. For this you can edit commons:File:WWFLogo98dislike.png and place {{Speedydelete|1=Uploader request}} at the top. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Changing the name at the top of a company page

I hope that someone may be able to help.

Durham Business School as been recently rebranded to Durham University Business School. We habe been able to change the content of the page and logo to reflect this, however the top level ‘name’ on the page remains as Durham Business School. Can anyone advise on how we can get this amended?

Many thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.234.44.183 (talk) 16:22, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I moved the page Durham Business School to Durham University Business School. GB fan 16:27, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I suspect from your phraseology that you are connected with the school. If you are, and if you are tempted to make any other edits to that page, please read WP:COI first. --ColinFine (talk) 17:15, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Formatting on Rogue trader

I tried to correct it because the table hadn't been closed properly. Now the references are hidden for some reason. Itsmejudith (talk) 19:12, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Fixed - the end-of-table marker is |}. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:31, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks. Itsmejudith (talk) 19:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello again

Hello again. In order to update the past message, I agree that I messed up in one way. The message should also said: ***With my humble thanks and well regarded regards unto all.*** Before the part of/aboubt the words of mine, that said: **Merci Beaucoup mon amis.*** With that in mnind, there we be unto one and all. As for the next matter,---an entirely a different one at that,---feel free to requote me as long as it is reasonable. Always. Signed: La Madamoiselle/Senorita Heather Hascheau. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.106.172.214 (talk) 19:55, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I have added a header to your post. If you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia, please clarify which page you have in mind. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:57, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Why are some edits striked out?

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'm curious. Why are some of the edits in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adrian_Finighan&action=history the history page of Adrian Finighan crossed out? Not that article specifically, I've seen it on some other articles.--Xxhopingtearsxx (talk) 21:27, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

It means that those revisions are hidden from all users except editors whose accounts have the Oversight flag. See Wikipedia:User access levels#Oversight and Wikipedia:Oversight for more information. Wikipedia:Oversight#Policy specifies the cases when oversight might me used. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 21:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)