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March 6

Is there a list of WP editing projects?

Does WP have an article listing little projects that editors can do to improve WP? I'd like to add one. David Spector (user/talk) 01:11, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean Wikiprojects? If so, you could try looking around Wikipedia:WikiProject Council. Chamal ^T•C 02:17, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

No, sorry, I'm aware of Wikiprojects and I don't mean them. I mean a Special Page or ordinary article in the WP namespace that lists things that editors can do in their spare time to improve WP. I recall seeing something like this, but cannot recall where. Does anyone know? David Spector (talk) 12:45, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I think there are others, but this—Wikipedia:Community_portal is one.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:16, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Where is the best place to discuss something affecting multiple pages?

There are discussions occurring at Talk:Diosdado Cabello on a topic that will also be reflected at Hugo Chávez, List of Presidents of Venezuela, and Nicolás Maduro. Is there a good way to centralize that discussion so a decision can be made in one area that affects all three articles? Ryan Vesey 01:19, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Start a discussion on the talk page of the most relevant article, and then provide links from the other talk pages to that discussion. Kinkreet^{~♥moshi moshi♥~} 01:39, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

That's workable, but still not great (and it's always difficult to enforce a decision made at the talkpage of another article, even if a link is provided). Discussion is currently the lengthiest at Diosdado Cabello's talk page, but would be equally appropriate at Nicolás Maduro's talk page. Ryan Vesey 01:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

If the scope of the topic is broad, you could use WikiProject Venezuela's talk page. Chamal ^T•C 02:11, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the assistance guys. It seems that the issue has been resolved. Ryan Vesey 04:56, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Can't change the article title.

Can't change the article title on my native town with the wrong spelling. The correct spelling is "Seikphyu". In Myanmar language, "Seik" refers to "Seik Kan" meaning "port" and "phyu" means "white (white colour)". So the overall meaning of "Seikphyu" is "white port". There is a great difference between "phyu" and "pyu". Now the article title is spelled as "Seikpyu" which is wrong, meaningless and stupid. I'm very upset to see the name of my native town in wrong spelling. The similar thing is happening to the name of the township which is wrong and spelled as "Seikpyu Township".

I can not see the move button. Can someone help me change the title to the correct one?

Here is my reference of the official names of the administrative regions and towns of Myanmar. The link is a pdf formatted map produced by the Myanmar Information Management Unit (MIMU). Seikphyu and Seikphyu Township can be seen in Pakokku District, in the Magway Region in the middle of Myanmar.[1]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyi2ag (talk • contribs)

I have moved both articles.--ukexpat (talk) 02:22, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk page template for collecting potential sources/links that aren't yet used in an article

I'm looking for the talk page template box that is used to list useful/helpful external links and sources that haven't yet been worked into the article, like for future editors to consider adding to an article in future edits. It looks like a normal talk page template box with the brown-mustard background and whatnot—I'm just blanking on the name and it's near impossible to find via search. Thanks czar · · 03:50, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Are you thinking of {{to do}} {{Refideas}} ? ~:74.60.29.141 (talk) 04:12, 6 March 2013 (UTC):~

That's the one! Thank you czar · · 22:55, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Business Related

How can we get a picture of Teflon Don (rapper) added to the google search so when they see this below in the search : Teflon Don Rapper Donald Askew, Jr, better known by his stage name Teflon Don, is an American rapper from Memphis, Tennessee. Wikipedia Born: January 6, 1982 (age 31), Memphis Albums: God, The Government, The Game Feedback / More info

-a picture needs to be attached to this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donaldaskew (talk • contribs) 04:25, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Google pulls the stuff you see in the right hand pane of its search results from all over the internet. If you have, or can get hold of, a freely licensed image, it can be uploaded and added to the article, but there is no guarantee that it will appear in Google's results. Also note, if you are connected with the subject of the article, you must read WP:COI and I assume that the "we" you refer to is the "royal we" because Wikipedia accounts cannot be shared.--ukexpat (talk) 04:30, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

(ec) The article already has a picture. Wikipedia has no control over how Google displays the pages it indexes. You'll need to ask them. RudolfRed (talk) 04:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

The image has been deleted as a copyvio.--ukexpat (talk) 15:06, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Longest disambiguation pages

Is there a list of the disambiguation pages with the most entries?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:28, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

See User:Gurch/Reports/Longest disambiguation pages. It states it's accurate through June 24, 2011. Communist Party (disambiguation) was then the winner (the first on the list is not actually a dab page). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:44, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

François Vermeille aliase Onésime Grosbois recognitions

I realise several times period whereas I gave to wikipedia Knowledges François Vermeille aliase Onésime Grosbois jazzman and Various pianistic,used to play with Django Reinhardt version for exemple of "Nuages"song and so on,early reedition Fremont & Assoçiated "I'll Never be the Same" compilation N°18-several compositions as Author,composer,Orchestration,and so on, with for exemple as co-Author with Eddie Barclay (33songs)Gilbert Becaud as Orchestrator,Charles Aznavour "Ne tirez pas sur le pianiste" Movie.I managed those pages in your website and I realise each time I visited on wikipedia those references data, all are wiped out...Is it malwares or are you doing such thing on purpuses ...?!! Which is really stupid, because everything about this musician is on Google,//World Cat.music,//Encyclopedisque,//Amazon,//even concurance as Virgin sale on line François Vermeille aliase Onésime Grosbois skuds...!! and my FB page though, regarding François Vermeille aliase Onésime Grosbois ...To me, does'nt makes any sens to do such ridiculous actions, shall I say "malwares "...So would you please, manage something till I'll will get to the C.N.I.L.L.in order to make and fixed up for good an official complaining and maybe more... Thanks to manage better be, all that crappy and ridiculous malwares things... — Preceding unsigned comment added by VERMEILLE60 (talk • contribs) 09:54, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi VERMEILLE60. I can see that there is an article on the French language Wikipedia for fr:François Vermeille. It was also nominated for deletion in fr:Discussion:François Vermeille/Suppression and retained. I know very little French and even less about Jazz. It might be a good idea to contact English language Wikipedia editors who are fluent in French about this. I suggest Coren to start with. Hope this helps! Peter aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:26, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit toolbar - signing

Hello,

how to customize the signing button outcome in the edit toolbar, so that only four tildes are added? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 11:08, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

WikiEditor extension handles it. The documentation at mediawiki says that users can customize it. I have tried it, but couldn't get it to work. You could use the Sign your posts on talk pages: ~~~~ located at edit tools at the bottom of the editbox instead. --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 11:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Most populous state in US

Hi,

I have a question.

I wanted to know which is the most populous state in US.

While reading on wikipedia I realized that on one link California has been shown as the most populous state while on another link of wikipedia New York has been shown as the most populous state.

Copied/pasted here are those two links.

I would like to know which one is correct and request you to please display one information whichever is correct.

Thanks.

Here are those two links:

New York City

List of U.S. states and territories by population

Regards,

Shailja — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.109.120.134 (talk) 12:26, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Where in the New York City article does it say that New York is the most populous state? It says that "New York is the most populous city in the United States". Did you misread the article, perhaps? - David Biddulph (talk) 12:39, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

can you include a share button?

http://sharethis.com/

http://www.addthis.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.127.198.87 (talk) 12:38, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

It has been suggested many times but not gained support. See Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Share pages on Facebook, Twitter etc.

Sharebox is a script that reorders your toolbox. It adds new buttons that make it easier to mail, print or share an article on Facebook or another linksharing service. You must have an account to add Sharebox to the sidebar. See User:TheDJ/Sharebox for more information. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:49, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

What are the criteria for "notable people" in an article about a town/city?

Hi, can anyone give me some info about who is supposed to be in the notable people section of such an article? I was perusing the article about Saint Albans and came across this rather sprawling notable people section, which I have just slightly pruned but it still looks like a huge mess and I'm not really sure if "once lived there" or "now teaches at a school there" are sufficient. I think some more of the entries could be weeded out, but I'll stay my hand and wait for others' advice. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 12:41, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

If someone is notable, one would expect an article about them to exist; as a result, a good rule of thumb is only to retain bluelinks in such a list. If there isn't an article already, best practice would be to write the article first, but you could include redlinked entries if you think there's enough in the way of sources out there to create a page about them in the future. As far as their relation to the town goes, WP:FAMRES might be worth a look. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:58, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

If the list is so long that it dominates the town/city article is could be WP:Split to a separate list article. Roger (talk) 13:10, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I made random checks of some of the people on the list to see if St Albans is mentioned in the article. Some of the entries do not appear to be supported by the linked articles, Kurt Jackson, John Hartson, John Motson are listed but St Albans is not mentioned in their articles. The list should be cleaned up more to only include those with references to show they lived there. GB fan 13:21, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I've tried to deal with this issue elsewhere, and the approach I took was that in the absence of a blue link, I attempted to add at least one reference establishing notability, (one reference isn't even enough to prove notability, but it seemed like a reasonable compromise) and one that established the connection. In cases with blue links, I just checked to see if there was anything in the article establishing the connection, and if not attempted to add a reference containing one. Though I think referencing lists of notable people in an article is probably the exception rather then the rule, even if it should be the rule. Monty₈₄₅ 15:47, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

See the Citations in list articles discussion above about the verification problem. Roger (talk) 16:12, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

• Hmm, interesting stuff and thanks to all who replied. WP:FAMRES is definitely what I was looking for, as there are a lot of IMHO vague or weak links to the town, and, as GB fan points out, a random sampling of some of those mentioned contain no mention of Saint Albans in their article. It seems, as I suspected, that there have been some over-enthusiastic additions, already pruned for living nearby and so on, I will go back to this later.
• To Yunshui, about the blue links, well there were several "indie" type bands listed (toured literally for four years before breaking up that sort of thing), so I checked the articles, either unreffed or IMHO fairly rubbish refs, I have watchlisted them all to see if they need AfDing, which I'm fairly sure they do. So what I'm saying is just because something's bluelinked, it doesn't mean the relevant article is valid (i.e. notable as per Wikipedia's interpretation). This observation is more for other readers of the board than for yourself, as I'm sure you're well aware of this. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 17:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Which hatnote?

Resolved

Which is the correct template for a hatnote that says "Not to be confused with <similar name article>"? Roger (talk) 13:25, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

{{Distinguish}} which is a redirect from {{Confuse}}.--ukexpat (talk) 13:34, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Roger (talk) 14:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Adding customized image for kits/uniform in the infobax

How do you create a link to the image you uploaded for the infobox of an article? Like in the real madrid c.f. In the infobox "rmcf1213h" will link you to the image of their kit/uniform which will appear in their infobox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wpolido (talk • contribs) 14:19, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

The uniform parameters for Template:Infobox football club can be seen at Template:Football kit#Parameters. Add "1" for home and "2" for away in the parameter name. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:03, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Proper Use of Redirects

Hello, I need clarification on how to proceed on the following:

When you search "Parks College" in Wikipedia, you are redirected to "Everest College" (which used to be called Parks College). I think when the user searches "Parks College" they should in fact be redirected to "Parks College of Engineering, Aviation and Technology."

My question is: Is it permissible to change this redirect ("Parks College") to be redirected to "Parks College of Engineering, Aviation and Technology?"

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ParksCollege (talk • contribs) 16:58, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Making Parks College a disambiguation page that contains links to both articles is IMHO a better option. Roger (talk) 17:07, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I have made it into a disambiguation page with 3 entries. GB fan 17:17, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ParksCollege (talk • contribs) 17:28, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

comment about Prince

It is very good that I have been able to read a article about Prince. I have been waiting to read what happened to him since the 1980's when he became less active in his singing career. I wanted to say that it is a shame that so many companies used his name so much in the 1980's and the 1990's as advertising. I always wondered in the 1990's when I heard a lot about Michael Jackson, Prince and other singers what was going on at that time but I still like Prince's songs from that time now and I always will right now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jls069 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Do you have any questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia? This is not a forum for general discussion. Roger (talk) 17:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I am proposing deletion of Vonbluvens Show article

I propose this page be looked at and considered for deletion under "Proposed deletion of biographies of living persons".

This page was a stub from the NSM article and no updates to it since 2005, that is until Yesterday. It's very heavy on opinion with little or no links, citation or reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by METOKNOWONLY (talk • contribs) 18:45, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

The procedure for proposed deletion is at Wikipedia:Proposed deletion. (Remember that anyone can contest a prod by removing the template and that an article can only be prodded once.) RJFJR (talk) 19:16, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

promotional articles

If I have come across an article in which I have edited but keeps being changed back and seems to me to be a promotional article in which the majority is poorly sourced, how do I report this to get an editor to look at it? the page is question is Matt Fiddes.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edinburgh loon (talk • contribs) 20:26, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

The first step is to attempt to reach consensus with the other involved user(s) on a relevant talk page. We are all "editors" (and there is no "editorial board"). And per WP:BLP, if there is contentious material about living persons, it should be reverted/removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.--ukexpat (talk) 20:41, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you ukexpat. I wondered if you would answer one final question. If a citation is linked to an unreliable source would I just delete that sentence or delete the citation and ask for a more reliable one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edinburgh loon (talk • contribs) 21:03, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

In a BLP? Delete the contentious content and the (non)reference, but explain why in your edit summary.--ukexpat (talk) 22:08, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Not a problem

Don't really have a problem other than submitting a request for a topic was incredibly complicated. I wanted a page for Judith Tintanelli. She is the incredibly influential author on one of probably two top textbooks in the Emergency Medicine specialty. There is currently an intense effort by the Emergency Medicine Residents' Association to create a legacy video on the history of Emergency Medicine and discuss this with the most influential people in the field (before it's too late). Tintanelli and Harwood and Nuss are the top textbooks and truly deserve a page.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.117.55 (talk) 21:00, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

It seems from what you say that an article about the textbook is more likely to comply with the notability requirements, than an article about one of the authors. How much has been published about Tintanelli the person compared to how much has been written about her book? If all we can find about her is that she wrote this "really important" book then it's unlikely that we can have an article about her. Roger (talk) 21:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

BTW I see the correct spelling of her surname is "Tintinalli" and 34 articles here on the English Wikipedia use one or more of her publications as a source. Roger (talk) 21:21, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi

i have my own football club i created and i will join Middlesex County League

how can i put my club here?

www.sportlondonbenfica.com

thats the site — Preceding unsigned comment added by SportLondonBenfica (talk • contribs) 21:37, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

First, your club needs to be notable, see WP:N for what that means. Second, you should not create the article, due to a conflict of interest, as explained at WP:COI. If you meet the notability requirements, you can request an article at WP:RA RudolfRed (talk) 21:58, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

The user has now edited Sport London e Benfica F.C. which may not be the same club...--ukexpat (talk) 22:06, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I reverted the edits and warned the editor. That article is about a defunct club that existed from 1981 to 2010. Roger (talk) 22:15, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

User SportLondonBenfica has now been blocked indefinitely. Maproom (talk) 08:54, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

hello I need help with removal of program on my computer

Hi I need to know how to remove java 7.11 the one that had problems I have tried to remove and say it failed every time I try also I cannot download another version — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.145.64.161 (talk) 22:34, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello. This page is specifically for asking questions about using Wikipedia. You may want to try asking the Reference Desk instead. ProtossPylon 23:49, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia

Hi,

I am building several Stamp Collectors Databases for sale and would like to know if it is alright to place links to Wikipedia for referencing countries and different animal species.

Thanks, 99.47.45.116 (talk) 22:46, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

It is absolutely fine for you to place links on your external site to Wikipedia articles. Note though that if you use our content (for example, excerpting material from one of our articles) then under the copyright license our material bears, you must provide attribution to Wikipedia. Please see Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. Because I wasn't 100% sure from your question if you didn't mean this, please note that the reverse—placing links on Wikipedia to your stamp database—is probably not okay. Please see Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:33, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

The two questions were from different users who didn't sign after their post. I have added signatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:44, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Ah thanks. I have separated them, placing the latter in the thread below (as I bet you would have if it would not have confused matters given my dual-natured post).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)