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Jim Carrey

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Should content about the death of an ex-girlfriend/boyfriend, or even current girlfriend/boyfriend, be included in a celebrity's article? If so, how much? Content about the suicide of Jim Carrey's girlfriend was just added to his article, in the personal life section. Numerous mainstream media such as NBC News and FOX News are reporting that she is an ex-girlfriend, not current.[1][2] Some others are claiming that they recently got back together or possibly got back together, including TMZ, where the story apparently originated. The only source currently included in the Carrey article is Gawker. So, putting aside the sources, should that content be in the article? I'm not sure if it matters, but they only dated in 2012 according to sources, and again this year if they actually started dating again. From reading many celebrity bios on here over the years, my understanding has been that only "significant" relationships - like marriages and long-term relationships - should be mentioned in an article, and that brief or on/off relationships should not. I have never edited the article and will not touch this content. I'll leave that to editors who are much more familiar with the rules of biographies. Czoal (talk) 20:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

While I was waiting for a reply, I found the BLP noticeboard and asked for help there instead. Perhaps that's a more appropriate place for my inquiry anyway. Czoal (talk) 23:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

DMX Max air transfer system reebok, motion analysis, engineering

I am asking for more information about the "DMX Max air transfer system" used by reebok for running shoes. Not being able to find the correct category in the request page, I have resorted to this. A google search says this technology is "motion analysis" and is an engineering science. Reebok also used a technology called "energaire" for a shoe, also Spalding used "energaire" technology for it's Denise Austin running shoe. Having owned a pair of the Spalding Energaires', I know that the shoe sole on the ball of the foot, has an air cushion, a bubble if you will. Maybe other people are interested in the technology of creating the sole of a running shoe using various engineering techniques that incorporate using this air-pocket system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.59.100.183 (talk) 00:27, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:57, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Fraud

Please help me with... I am the owner of a TV station in the US Virgin Island-WSVI. I used to think this was a reliable service and I have been a contributor over the years. I have gotten a real wake up call. Someone -It seems by the name 'I Dream of Horse' has been enetering lies about who owns my business and the lies have been attributed to JVC Broadcasting Company, an entity I know know nothing about.

For the record-using your own info on the WSVI wikipedia page here is the owner of WSVI and WZVI TV http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/sta_det.pl?Facility_id=2370

And here are the stations owned by JVC. Note there is no mention of a TV in the Virgin Islands as you report in Wikipedia. http://www.jvcbroadcasting.com/our-stations Even though I have made changes this person comes back and changes the changes.

What is going on with you people?

Telling me who is doing this so I can get my lawyer involved. Thank you

63.138.96.6 (talk) 02:20, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

David Lampel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.138.96.6 (talk) 02:23, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

• First off, read no legal threats. It is highly recommended that you retract your threat immediately or you could be blocked per Wikipedia's policy. Second, I dream of horses reverted an unexplained blanking of a page which looked like vandalism. That is standard practice. That is why we have edit summaries. This is not "fraud" and this is no place for lawyers. Unexplained blanking of pages will be reverted. I see you have included an edit summary the next time you removed the section. That should suffice. --Stabila711 (talk) 02:30, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

• Further, it's not "your page" as you've indicated in your talk page comments. Just because you happen to own the TV station doesn't mean you get any special rights or privileges over other users. On the contrary, you have a conflict of interest and should not be editing the article directly. JIP | Talk 08:02, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

• I have removed the unsourced claim that JVC owns WSVI. I could find no connection between the two with Google. The page histories show the claim was added a week ago by 2601:19B:8201:2AD0:AE22:BFF:FEDA:1B7, an unregistered user with no other edits. Other involved users may just have reacted to inappropriate page blanking or what looked like inappropriate section blanking. Such edits are usually vandalism and editors don't have time to investigate everything. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:45, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Page on Wikipedia

Sir/Madam,

I'm a prudent banker in India, working as Asst Vice President with Axis Bank wish to have a page on Wikipedia. Is it possible.

Pls advise

Jayant Edake — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.39.13.232 (talk) 04:32, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

• Well that depends on if you meet our notability standards for inclusion. Also please see the general guidelines for all articles. Wikipedia articles must have reliable sources that are independent from the article's topic. Just because it exists does not mean it is fit for inclusion on Wikipedia. If you believe that you meet these requirements. I recommend reading your first article. In addition, I recommend going through the articles for creation process as you have a conflict of interest. This will let you create the page that will be reviewed by another editor to make sure it meets the standards set by the Wikipedia community. --Stabila711 (talk) 04:36, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Since it seems like Axis Bank already exists (mea culpa for not checking), I changed the notability link to persons and struck some words since it seems more accurate to this question (thanks CiaPan and RegistryKey). The rest of my comment still stands --Stabila711 (talk) 17:53, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
• If I understand the question correctly, you want to have your biography page. If so, please be aware there are special restrictions on writing biographies of living people (→ Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons) and even more on writing about ourselves (→ Wikipedia:Autobiography). --CiaPan (talk) 07:08, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
• Page already exists, see Axis Bank. RegistryKey^(RegEdit) 08:16, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Corrections to a Wikipedia page

I am a paid consultant working for MSCI, Inc.

They have asked me to make changes to the Wikipedia page about the company, because the current information is outdated.

Am I allowed to do that, if I disclose my relationship with the company?

Thanks.

Frank Beck — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frank Beck (talk • contribs) 11:58, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Greetings. Putting an Wikipedia:Edit request on the talk page is probably better, along with a reliable source for the change proposed.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:08, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Frank Beck, Jo-Jo Eumerus' suggestion is a good one. I have dropped a welcome message on our talk page with some general information links for you.
• I believe that if you edit any page on a paid basis you must reveal that, or you may be wp:blocked. Even then the edit must be NPOV, encyclopaedic, reliably, and if possible independently, sourced, and not promotional etc.
• Not being an expert on WP policy in this area, please see the Wikimedia web page "FAQ on paid contributions without disclosure", which I think covers your query. 220 of ^Borg 12:28, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Note, however this only applies to pages whose changes that you are doing as a paid employee/consultant. Someone editing the organization that they were a volunteer for would fall under to the Conflict of Interest rules which are less strict. And no problem editing pages for German singers if you aren't formally attached to them. :)Naraht (talk) 18:50, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Similar name different subject

I have a question on how to reference a person or create a link to a person on a page. When i created a link on the page, I found that a page was made but the page reference goes a different person with the same name. Apparently the person I want to reference does not exist. How does one create a reference to a different person with the same name on a page... how would Wikipedia know which page I mean? (I guess I need to build the page about the new person)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.252.24.66 (talk) 14:14, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Without actual names it's hard to tell, but apparently nobody has (as yet) found the other person of the same name, the one you were referring to, notable enough to write about. When we have two or more persons with the same name, we usually disambiguate them by clarifying who we mean with a parenthetical note and/or middle initials: we have articles on Kevin H. Smith, Kevin Smith (editor), and Kevin Smith (Australian actor), for example, and a page Kevin Smith (disambiguation) that lists all our Kevin Smith articles. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:57, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

If I understand you correctly, you are trying to add a red link, or a link to an article that hasn't been created yet, but there's already an article about a different person at that location. Let's say the person you want to write about is named John Smith. As you can see, we have lots of articles on people named John Smith. Maybe your John Smith is a musician, so you might put John Smith (musician), but there's already an article there, so you might put your redlink at John Smith (violinist). You would then disguise this in the article using a piped link, so typing [[John Smith (violinist)|John Smith]] gives you John Smith. When you made the article for John Smith (violinist), at the top you could use a hatnote to point back to the other John Smith. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:00, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

208.252.24.66 Dates are also used to disambiguate people. Occasionally there is more than one, say, John Smith (footballer) possibly with unknown middle names, but born in (or died) in different years. Example John Smith (Medal of Honor) there are three, but different birth-dates. 220 of ^Borg 15:15, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Perfect... i understand... thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.252.24.66 (talk) 15:29, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

"Appears to be written as an advertisement" flag should be removed

Hello! I have been working to remove issued that caused the page for Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center page to receive the “article appears to be written as an advertisement” flag. I believe I have dramatically reduced if not eliminated the bias and added links and citations. I’m curious if an editor would please re-review it and perhaps remove the tag. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessicam.bagwell (talk • contribs) 15:33, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

The tag seems appropriate. Mlpearc (open channel) 15:38, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

@Jessicam.bagwell: Your only contribution was posting the question here. Assuming that you are the IP which did a lot of editing on the article, I don't think a lot of issues with tone were fixed. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 15:44, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

It still sounds far too promotional, even after the edits last month (from whom I believe is a student at Texas Tech University). This places the editor(s) in a poor COI position -which should be disclosed before they start to edit. Yet, we have a Wikipedia guide: Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide to help such editors that wish to help improve Wikipedia articles. Hope you find this helpful and happy editing. It appears to read promotional (I think, I don't know about other editors here) as it focusses too much on the benefits they provide, not simply the Universities features. A medial trained person would focus on the latter, whilst a sale and marketing person - the former.--Aspro (talk) 12:23, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Help me I don't know what a sock user is

help me I don't know what a sock user is and apparently I am one? I just started here and almost immediately had my wikipedia commons user page deleted and I made a good friend Cordless Larry but now I don't understand what is happening to my account. I promise I'm not an idiot, and cordless larry might vouch for me but he might also think I'm an idiot, and to be fair I might be biased but I was notified on my email and this is what I just copied off of a page that mentioned me: "It makes no sense to register so all the deranged monkeys can throw shit at another foolish editor who joined the community of nutters like User:Lightbreather who has long used her backup sock User:Darknipples (obvious as hell by all the gun ban propaganda she promotes and coming on the scene first when LB thought she could be banned and was temporarily and now has a new backup sock User:Asdiprizio which will in time edit gun articles but LB knows her recent permanent ban is to fresh to start promoting her anti-gun agenda through another sock. PS Do not edit others talk page duechebag. Addendum: Sorry to the lunatics who edit here and who are able to support themselves. " please help please I am just trying to get an article written about a pioneer writer in animation named Khaki Jones. Asdiprizio (talk) 16:13, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

@Cordless Larry: , Is this your friend or our "friend" from the Teahouse? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:15, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi TheRedPenOfDoom. Asdiprizio is an editor I helped out at the Teahouse. If you're referring to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Freshmangrandcaravan, then, no, I don't think there's any link. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:21, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Defined here Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. RJFJR (talk) 17:29, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

@Asdiprizio: To answer your first question (What is a sock user?), a sockpuppet is when someone who already has an account creates another account and then uses both accounts in a deceptive or disruptive manner. Please read the page on sock puppetry. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:35, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

This is the comment in which Asdiprizio was accused of sockpuppetry. It was made by an IP editor who has since been blocked, so I have told Asdiprizio not to be too concerned. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:27, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

thank you Cordless, you're the best! Asdiprizio (talk) 14:35, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Laser line level

Your information about a line laser a laser line level is inaccurate please do more research I am certain I have used one in the late 80s 2600:100C:B202:2CF8:18A1:A2FF:8293:82C5 (talk) 17:16, 30 September 2015 (UTC)John Box

That is not a question on how to use Wikipedia, which, as stated at the top, is what this page is for. If you think an article has an error you can edit it yourself, or ask someone to do so on the article's talk page, but you must be able to cite reliable sources to back up your change. "I am certain I have used one in the late 80s" is clearly not reliable, or verifiable
However, our article Laser line level has no mention of a date whatsoever, so what do you think is incorrect ? - Arjayay (talk) 17:27, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps Laser level? (Often confused with laser line levels). Even so, that just mentions that a certain type was patented in the late 80s, but makes no statement on how commonly (or if) these were available. Rwessel (talk) 06:39, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

And it states "The concept of a laser level has been around since at least the early 1970s" so is not what the IP was objecting to either. - Arjayay (talk) 14:31, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

New York Times

Is there anyway I can read The new York Times for free — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:581:8401:6170:C5D3:6E8F:813F:289B (talk) 18:19, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

While this isn't about editing Wikipedia directly (although often NYT articles are used as sources here), http://www.nytimes.com does (when I last checked) allow a person to read 10 NYT articles a month for free. For more than that a paid subscription is required. DES ^(talk) 18:25, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Also, if you're looking for older New York Times articles, portions of their archives are free. (I imagine stuff that's old enough to be public domain. I know stuff from 1905 is free but 1940 isn't.) ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:36, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

There are also 3 libraries in Pompano Beach, Florida - although I don't know whether they subscribe, nor whether they keep back copies. - Arjayay (talk) 18:46, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

If you disable javascript you can read everything for free. Ruslik_Zero 20:27, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

I was reading just today that ProQuest is available at certain libraries.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:17, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Article Warning

Hi, I'm following up on a page that had been flagged and I've done some substantial edits to it to make it more encyclopedic. Since the entry is on a living person, if this could be reviewed for possibly taking down the warning soon, that would be great. Simon Critchley

ThanksSarahVS (talk) 20:47, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Incorrect link

I was browsing through HBO's "The Wire" and one of the actors that plays Dr. David Parenti has a link to a completely different actor. Apparently there are two Dan DeLucas that are actors. Anyway, they are two different people and it is obvious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.73.138.134 (talk) 23:59, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

• Assuming you mean this article it has been fixed. Since there is no mention of Parenti on the main The Wire article I had to guess which article you meant. --Stabila711 (talk) 00:24, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

It was worse than that. Special:WhatLinksHere/Dan DeLuca had eight links from articles and files but seven of them were to the wrong actor. I have changed all seven to [[Dan DeLuca (actor, born 1970)|Dan DeLuca]] which renders as Dan DeLuca. The pages can be seen at Special:WhatLinksHere/Dan DeLuca (actor, born 1970). PrimeHunter (talk) 11:19, 1 October 2015 (UTC)