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List of images

I would need to generate the code for a gallery page, or at least a list, of the images contained in a category at Commons. Cambalachero (talk) 02:00, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

@Cambalachero: If you mean you want another page than the category page to automatically display or list all images in a category then it's not possible. Each image must be explicitly named. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:12, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

List of countries by length of expressways

Motorways or Expressways ?

Why one column is titled as motorway then not expressway? List of the countries by lenght of motorways should be dispose in other article. Dawid2009 (talk) 06:48, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Sources?

In this article is not a lot of sources. I don't urdenstand why Spain has got more express'/(and)motorway's length than Germany and I also don't urdenstand why Albania has got more denistry than Lithuania? In some maps and sources it looks otherwise. Dawid2009 (talk) 06:48, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

I also don't understand why China has got more lenght of these ways per capita than Norway? X1000 is most probably a wrong parametr Dawid2009 (talk) 07:04, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

It article has been actualized in 2013, and accorting to its Spain has 16,205 km lenght of expressways. I know source by which in 2013 Spain had 10 286 km lenght of motorways, France 10 843 km and Germany 12 363 km (http://www.forbes.pl/autostrady-w-polsce-na-tle-europy-jestesmy-w-czolowce,artykuly,164481,1,1.html). However this article is contary to data in List of countries by road network size. Is someone intrested in problems in it? Dawid2009 (talk) 10:52, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

I'll have a look at this (hopefully) at some point tomorrow and try to collate an accurate and up-to-date list. Problematic subject when new roads are constantly being built tho! douts (talk) 22:35, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Should offices in an infobox be ranked chronologically or by importance?

Specifically, I'm referring to the article Tony Blair, in which his position as Prime Minister (the most important) is ranked above his position as Special Envoy of the Quartet (the most recent). Does the manual of style say anything about this? Thanks in advance, Specto73 (talk) 09:24, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

I would say that importance should be above. First, because if some decades from know we want to read about Tony Blair, he will be remembered first and foremost as a Prime Minister, not by his current office (unless something really out of the ordinary happens). And second, because that way we don't need to keep rearranging the infobox all the time. Have in mind that "the most recent" is a state that gets outdated in no time. Cambalachero (talk) 02:38, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

If infoboxes should be ordered by importance, then most politicians' infoboxes would have to be re-ordered. e.g George H.W. Bush's role as UN Ambassador ought, on that basis, to be ranked above his role as Liaison to China, despite Bush holding the latter office more recently. Specto73 (talk) 15:29, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Y Done. douts (talk) 22:49, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Robin Sherwood

Copied from the talk page. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 10:09, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

I tried to contribute this edit to the Robin Sherwood page but did not reference it correctly. I then tried to remove it but it still needs to be edited back in. Would you please add this as the very last paragraph and sentence? The new paragraph and sentence to be edited in is below:

Robin Sherwood made her first personal appearance at The Lincoln Center for the opening night of the Film Society of Lincoln Center's Film Comment Selects 2015 film festival at the Walter Reade Theater."

That would make it the very last paragraph after the present last paragraph which is:

Robin returned to acting in 2009. In 2014, she stars in the feature-length documentary, Electric Boogaloo: The Wild, Untold Story of Cannon Films (2014). The documentary is directed by Mark Hartley and was produced by Brett Ratner.

I referenced The Lincoln Center's website, https://www.filmlinc.org/films/electric-boogaloo-the-wild-untold-story-of-cannon-films/, however and I did not enter it properly.

Thank-you so much for your help. Inspiring Dreams Inspiring Dreams (talk) 01:32, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Inspiring Dreams (talk) 01:32, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Fruit Shoot

Copied from the talk page. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 10:09, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

Please can we update the Fruit Shoot information on the site as a lot of this information is out of date and incorrect?

Below is the correct information:

Robinsons Fruit Shoot is a refreshing drinks brand with a fruity flavour, designed especially for kids, made with real juice and no added sugar, artificial colours or flavours. Fruit Shoot is a leading global kids brand produced by Britvit PLC since 2000 in a re-sealable colourful sports cap bottle and offers a range of product options such as Fruit Shoot No Added Sugar, Fruit Shoot Hydro and Fruit Shoot My5, to fit current kids’ balanced diet and nutrition.

Fruit Shoot No Added Sugar is made using real fruit juice and water and it is a low calorie drink with added multivitamins and minerals to help keep kids refreshed. It offers a variety of tasty flavours such as: Apple and Blackcurrant, Orange, Summer Fruits, Peach and Mango, Tropical flavour, Apple.

Fruit Shoot Hydro is sugar free refreshing flavoured water made from spring water with no artificial colours or flavours. Hydro offers a variety of flavours such as Apple and Raspberry, Blackcurrant, Orange and Pineapple.

Fruit Shoot My-5 is a school approved fruit juice drink designed to give kids 1 of their 5 a day of fruit. My-5 is packed with real fruit juice and contains no artificial colours, no flavourings, no sweeteners and no preservatives.

Fruit Shoot has made it its mission to inspire and encourage kids’ adventurous side. As kids love outdoor adventure and challenges, the brand has teamed up with the world’s greatest obstacle event, Tough Mudder to create Fruit Shoot Mini Mudder, a 10 obstacles 1 mile course, making it the ultimate kids obstacle adventure.

Today Fruit Shoot can be found in supermarkets and retail shops in more than 25 countries

195.99.180.72 (talk) 09:22, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello, I am assuming this post is about Robinsons (drink) where the same request has been made a few weeks ago, and left some advice on the article's talkpage Talk:Robinsons (drink). Also, registering a personal single-user account for yourself is optional, but it would make it easier for you to suggest changes and for others to respond and offer advice. GermanJoe (talk) 11:48, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

User:Akonstantino/Nicholas Jordan - Reviewing a draft to replace a deleted article

I reviewed User:Akonstantino/Nicholas Jordan and declined it for two reasons. First, there was another draft at Draft:Nicholas Jordan. Second, however, it had already been discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicholas Jordan (2nd nomination) and deleted. The author, User:Akonstantino, now says on my talk page that they coordinated with the author of the other draft, who wants to remove his draft. I see that the other draft has been blanked, and I have tagged it for speedy deletion. However, here is my question. I haven’t seen the deleted version, and so I don’t know that the current draft is better. What should I do? Should I ask an administrator to review the draft and compare it to the deleted draft? I don't want to just guess that the current version is better than the deleted version. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:29, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

It appears that two articles named Nicholas Jordan have been deleted after deletion discussions. The first one is described in the deletion discussion as a non-notable athlete, and the second one as a non-notable businessman. The first one is obviously a different person, because the draft in question is about a businessman. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:37, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Related Question

After the other draft was deleted, I moved the draft in question to Draft:Nicholas Jordan. It then displayed reference errors that had not previously displayed. I was able to fix them, mainly because a slash was outside the ref tag when it should have been /ref. However, why should a draft have reference errors after it is moved that previously didn't display? This is just a complaint; I think that I have fixed it. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:37, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Naming Conventions

Is it policy that the first names of, say, Germans be anglicised? I'm seeing it a lot, but I can't locate a specific statement in that regard in naming conventions policy. Is there one, or is this happening mistakenly? Engleham (talk) 21:21, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

What you might be looking for is WP:COMMONNAME. †Dismas†|^(talk) 00:03, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Beyond WP:COMMONNAME though... and some not-all-that-famous people don't have enough refs in English sources to have a COMMONNAME: I don't think there is a rule about how to render names. I'm only familiar with Russian articles, but there for instance the Russian "Варвара" is sometimes transliterated as "Varvara" and sometimes translated as "Barbara". Similarly we see "Aleksandr", "Alexander", or "Alexandr" for Алекса́ндр, and so forth.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany may have a rule, but if not then as far as I know you are free to do what you think is best, and what you think a typical English speaker is most likely to be able to recognize and pronounce. Again, all this applies only if there is not a clear WP:COMMONNAME for the individual in English sources. I would not recommend changing existing names in articles, except to make the article internally consistent; letting previous editors' decisions stand, when possible, generally makes for less work all round. Herostratus (talk) 00:41, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks so much @Dismas @Herostratus for your assistance. I've posted on the Village Pump the suggestion that there could be a clarification in policy. [1] You want to contribute there. Engleham (talk) 16:44, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Please help

I am a couple days new to this and have found myself annoying the commuinity for links that i have used, my intention is not to annoy anyone, please forgive my ignorance. When adding external links do i use a no follow tag instead? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plumber London (talk • contribs) 23:03, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

The link to the Wordpress blog wouldn't be considered an authoritative reference for Wikipedia purposes, but on casual inspection I can't see what the issue is with the other reference. Suggest you post a query on the reverter's Talk page. The no-follow tag isn't necessary. Engleham (talk) 23:39, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Plumber London, as for the blog link, please see WP:BLOGSOURCE. †Dismas†|^(talk) 00:06, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

What was wrong was replacing parts of a valid citation with new |title=, new |journal=, and new |url=; none of which were authored by the named authors nor belonging to that |doi= (even though that seems to be dead at the moment). Editor Plumber London, don't do that. That citation is fixable which I have done.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:17, 18 August 2016 (UTC)