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August 21[edit]

The "simple" title in bold above the subject's photo box - Christine Marie - is incorrect - should not it read "Princess Michael of Kent"? The rules for this type of thing are clear. Thank you in advance 101.182.30.213 (talk) 00:55, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unless her first name is actually "Princess" no it shouldn't be. --Majora (talk) 01:29, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, I suppose Prince Michael of Kent should not be titled on his page either?-- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:59, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Elmidae: That is correct. And I will be changing it as soon as I click save page here. Just like on George V or Elizabeth II honorifics do not belong in the top of the infobox under the "name" parameter as that is not their name. Our guideline on that can be found here: WP:HONORIFIC --Majora (talk) 17:40, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You Tube Personality[edit]

will someone please list me on the youtube personality page. i dont have a clue about anything about wikipedia and that is all i want to do i have been trying to figure this out for 6 months already.if someone would be kind enough to do that for me id reaWayne Ray Chavis (talk) 02:41, 21 August 2016 (UTC)lly appreciate it. thank you. wayraycha[reply]

Wayne Ray Chavis, I'm assuming that you're talking about List of YouTubers. That list is like most lists on Wikipedia where the people listed there should have an article about themselves before being listed there. I cannot find an article called "Wayne Ray Chavis" or "WayneRayCha". You may be notable enough for an article according to Wikipedia's policies. I don't know. But, if you are, you should not write an article about yourself. Please click through the links that I've provided for fuller explanations about my points. †Dismas†|(talk) 03:10, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please help - something is wrong with ref number 8 on the above page. I thankyou in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.30.213 (talk) 06:48, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved
The 'something' was quite clear "check value in accessdate" ... '21st aug. 206' is obviously not a valid date. Eagleash (talk) 08:25, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Should the word "versus" be capitalized in titles?[edit]

I wonder whether the word versus should be capitalized in titles. These two video games – belonging to the same series – have inconsistent titles: Sherlock Holmes versus Arsène Lupin and Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the Ripper. This source says versus, althought having five characters, should be lowercase.--Carnby (talk) 08:15, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What titles are used by the vendor? Those would seem to be the primary titles. The alternate forms of capitalization should be recognized as redirects. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:45, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On the covers of both games versus is in small caps: Sherlock Holmes versus Arsène Lupin and Sherlock Holmes versus Jack the Ripper. On Frogwares websiste versus is not capitalized.--Carnby (talk) 21:11, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ongoing semi-protection of the Race and intelligence talk page[edit]

Wikipedia:Protection Policy#Protection by namespace states that "Talk pages . . . are only semi-protected for a limited duration in the most severe cases of vandalism." I have checked the race and intelligence talk page several times over the past year or two, and it has been protected continuously. I would like to know where to request it be unprotected, as, bar an exceptional coincidence, it is in clear violation of Wikipedia:Protection policy. 110.33.170.108 (talk) 10:53, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The way to appeal the protection of the talk page is to start with the protecting admin and ask them to remove the protection. In this case that would be Doug Weller. You need to explain why you believe protection is no longer is required. The protection was added because of disruptive editing by socks of Mikemikev. Looking at the protection history it was going on for a long time and is probably justified. -- GB fan 11:05, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Checking his user:talk page, that seems that is semi-protected too. What now? 110.33.170.108 (talk) 08:11, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You can ask at WP:RFPP (Request For Partial Protection, which includes asking for protection reduction) or you could create an account and become autoconfirmed (make 10 edits with the account and have it exist for 4 days) after which you would be able to edit semi protected pages like that admin's talk page. RJFJR (talk) 15:26, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My talk page was protected for one day a few weeks ago, but a glitch of some sort seems to have continued it indefinitely. I've unprotected it, reluctantly as we were getting a lot of socks, let alone the SPAs. It's a tendentious area and I've been out of it for quite a while but we were having obvious socks. Doug Weller talk 17:57, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File on Commons with the same name as a file on Wikipedia[edit]

I accidentally uploaded an image to Commons using the same name as an existing image on Wikipedia. Now, if I try to use the image I uploaded to commons on Wikipedia, it will show the image on Wikipedia that is known under that name. Is there any way to get around this, or do I need to get the file on Commons to be renamed? ~Mable (chat) 13:35, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, there is no way to use the Commons image. Either it or the file on Wikipedia needs to be renamed. Pppery (talk) 13:45, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I guess I'll request a move then. How annoying >.> ~Mable (chat) 16:17, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Possible to edit text of a bar chart in Wikimedia commons?[edit]

I would like to use https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Global_plug-in_annual_sales_2011-2015.png but overwrite the language to use it in a different language Wikipedia. I have no graphics skills or special graphics software but I understand that graphics are normally created in layers. So is there some text layer I can edit and save the whole thing as a different language version of the bar chart?

Or if that is not possible is there a way I can contact the creator (their user page is a red link which says the page has been deleted) or can I ask for a graphics expert to upload it to Wikimedia commons as layers? Chidgk1 (talk) 14:03, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That likely isn't needed, Chidgk1. The Commons link you provide includes a link to the original source document, a Google Sheets found here, and since the license used is the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license, as mentioned you are allowed to remix the work to suit your needs, as long as you apply the same license to your new product. So from a practical standpoint, all you need to do is open the source Google Sheet, save a copy of it so you can edit that copy, and make the language translations via editing the actual data in the sheet. This should automatically make the changes to the graph attached in the sheet since the graph is just reading the data you send it. Then, upload a picture of the new graph to Wikimedia Commons, and license and attribute the original work appropriately. RegistryKey(RegEdit) 14:50, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Abbr[edit]

If you see {{vte}} it produces a link with hover text "View this template". How can we produce that simple hovertext which when on hovering displays a tooltip. {{abbr}} produces a underline too which I don't want. I know it can be done by <span> element but don't know how! VarunFEB2003 I am Online 14:12, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Abbr#See also links {{H:title}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:15, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter: Thank you so much VarunFEB2003 I am Offline 12:26, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate on today's English page[edit]

that Edwin Stevens, reporting from his missionary position in Qing-era China, felt their recent erections indicated apprehension, and penetration was difficult? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.68.158.46 (talk) 17:44, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is being discussed at Talk:Main_Page#Errors in the current Did you know... -- John of Reading (talk) 18:22, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not archived, but in the history.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:10, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

...Hello.. On your site there is a claim that the oldest "Eastern Cottontailed Rabbit" is 9 years old, is that a verified claim or not?[edit]

... HELLO.. On your site there is a claim that the oldest "Eastern Cottontail Rabbit" is 9 years old.. Is that a verified claim or not? I would like to know as we have a Eastern Cottontail Rabbit that has just turned 8 years old and is on it's way to being 9 years old.. She is doing well and shows no signs of any health issues... Please let me know.. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.246.194.129 (talk) 23:16, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi, the article only states that Captive eastern cottontails have lived to at least nine years of age, so 9 may or may not be the record. CrowCaw 23:20, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
According to AnAge (animal aging and longevity database) entry for, Eastern cottontail rabbit (Sylvilagus floridanus):
In the wild, these animals appear to live up to 5 years. In captivity, they have been reported to live more than 9 years [0001]. One captive specimen lived 8.4 years at Tulsa Zoo [0671]. There are anecdotal reports, which may be true, of one animal living 9.8 years in captivity (Steven Austad, pers. comm.). Other estimates suggest they may live over 10 years, but this is unverified.

  • "Eastern cottontail (Sylvilagus floridanus) longevity, ageing, and life history". genomics.senescence.info. 107.15.152.93 (talk) 00:15, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For future reference, this sort of content related question is best handled at the WP: Reference desk -- this help desk is intended for questions related to editing or using Wikipedia itself. 107.15.152.93 (talk) 00:19, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]