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December 2

Referencing errors on Liquid smoke

Reference help requested. On the Liquid smoke page, your edit caused an unsupported parameter error (help). (Fix | Ask for help) My references are 2-6, 1and7 existed. Can you see where this problem is? I can't pinpoint the problem. Please fix if you can or direct me. ThanksGsmoke (talk) 01:19, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Gsmoke (talk) 01:19, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

The only ref error showing was to No.5 where an unknown parameter (page number=) (should be page=) caused the red error message. I'm not certain that {{cite book}} is the correct template for the source but that apart the refs seem OK. (I did a couple of minor tweaks). Eagleash (talk) 01:43, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Personality cult surrounding Jimbo Wales

Please do not block me, or delete this question. I am not a troll. I am just asking a question. Why is it that the slightest criticism of Jimbo Wales is immediately shut down on Wikipedia? I have witnessed other people delete questions on his talk page, and I have been dissent against Jimbo clamped down with force.

Secondly, if I was to create an article entitled Criticism of Jimbo Wales, just like Criticism of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Criticism of Mother Teresa, Criticism of Akira Kurosawa or Criticism of Osama bin Laden, would this be immediately deleted even if it was a great article that met guidelines? --Wintereichengaarden (talk) 07:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Most reverted comments at Jimbo's talk page are from banned users or trolls. There is plenty of regular criticism there. The essay Wikipedia:Criticism provides some guidelines about criticism articles. In general they are avoided for living people, and only used when criticism in the existing article has grown too large. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 08:45, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

We have an article on Criticism of Wikipedia that's still standing. Anecdotal, but I've had almost the opposite experience (particularly recently): indirect appeals to Jimbo are usually inexperienced editors who think his name is a magic word that will get them their way. Not bashing the man, just noting that the cultists I've seen usually aren't productive regulars. Ian.thomson (talk) 08:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Exactly. Any ignoring is because of repetitiveness. Any deletion is due to banned trolls. Besides, criticism is easy, doing something yourself is hard.. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:36, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia Classwork

I am Mr. Roger Gordons, a teacher at Geraldine High School, New Zealand. I have assigned my Computer Science class of 40 pupils some work that involves experimental editing of Wikipedia, so your website may receive significant disruption over the next few hours, but do not be alarmed, it is in good faith. Regards. --Mr Gordons (talk) 07:48, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Student assignments. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Prevent speedy deletion

Hello. This image is on RfC but it automatically gets tag for deletion per WP:CSD#F5 by the bot, because the image was previously in an article but now it's used in talk page for consensus. What should be done to prevent deletion until agreement is reached. CerberaOdollam (talk) 07:53, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

@CerberaOdollam: If the discussion concludes that the image is suitable for the article, post at WP:REFUND so that an admin can undelete it for you. In the meantime I suggest that you add an external link to the beginning of the RFC so that contributors there can view the off-wiki image once the on-wiki copy has been deleted. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:17, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. CerberaOdollam (talk) 11:44, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Missing Persons picture

I have uploaded about a week ago on "wikimedia common" a picture I own the copyright and I'd like to know when I can put up that picture in the editor to update an old outdated photo already in place . page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_Persons_(band) Thanks, Arc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archangore11 (talk • contribs) 09:11, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

@Archangore11: The picture has been deleted from Commons. See User talk:Archangore11 and C:User talk:Archangore11 for messages on the deletion. —teb728 t c 09:25, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion question

If, a few days ago, I placed a proposed deletion on a page, notified the user, they deleted the notice from their talk page [that's fine, they called it "needless blah"]. but then they delete the notice from the actual article. What happens now? I would assume that's not allowed - because it's supposed to be discussed? --Jennica✿ / ^talk 12:42, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

The prod tag links to Wikipedia:Proposed deletion, so you ought to have read that page. The article's creator is allowed to remove the prod tag, and you were violating the process by adding it again. If you still believe that the article ought to be deleted, your next step would be Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:55, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Trisha Greenhalgh

Hi I'm new to wikipedia, have been asked to edit the page about me (Trisha Greenhalgh) so tried to do that and got told I wasn't allowed to because I didn't have permission. I really don't understand all the instructions. Please tell me how I can edit my own page. Thanks Trish — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrishaGreenhalgh (talk • contribs) 13:09, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

TrishaGreenhalgh, you can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~~~~. In general you should not edit articles about yourself, see WP:Autobiography. Instead post your addition or amendment on the article talk page with the necessary independent verifiable sources Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:15, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

You attempted to add copyright material. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:24, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Help with school page

I ran across Hinchingbrooke School which is experiencing a lot of silly vandalism and reversion. I am learning to use Stiki, so I clicked vandalism for the latest problem, planning to go to the page and make further corrections. Looking at the page history, there is a lot of nonsense going on today. I could roll it back to November 19, but it will just get hit again. Is it possible to temporarily block it until the immaturity dies down? Leschnei (talk) 13:22, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

The place for such requests is WP:Requests for page protection. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:27, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Leschnei (talk) 13:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

How do i change color of some text - such as from black font to blue?

How do i change color of some text - such as from black font to blue?

Thank you,

Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by CBallard (talk • contribs) 16:28, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

In general you shouldn't, see WP:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Color. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:36, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

@CBallard: In Wikipedia, blue text usually means a link. See Help:Link#Wikilinks for how to make links to other Wikipedia pages. The text will automatically be blue if the linked page exists. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:52, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Dolores Cross

I dispute the contents of the entry on Dolores Cross. I am her son and you have many facts wrong. Morris Brown had been obtaining money illegally (based on ineligible students) from the federal government for many years prior to my mother's term as President. When she tried to put a stop to the practice, the college's financial officer drew down the money then asked for protection under the whistle blower act.Just because the media says so does not make it right. Please contact me for clarification — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:441:4101:8050:3C5B:1CEE:E862:9C2E (talk) 17:21, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

I think it would be better for this to be discussed on Talk:Dolores Cross. —MRD2014 (talk • contribs) 18:34, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

There are other sources than the media that can be used as references to an article, but we need some kind of reliable source. Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth. RJFJR (talk) 21:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

The article has been partially cleaned up some time ago to provide a more neutral point of view, but if you can find a published source for your claim about the financial officer, we will be able to correct the impression that Ms Cross was jointly responsible. Would you like to move this whole discussion to the article talk page as MRD2014 suggests? This is a very public forum. Dbfirs 23:39, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Paragon Pro Wrestling

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Joshuapine1993 (talk) 20:25, 2 December 2016 (UTC) Need help on my wrestling page for Logo image of ppw paragon pro wrestling.png

Not sure what your question is? The logo has been fixed and there don't seem to be any ref errors currently showing. In the meantime, the article has been nominated for deletion here. Eagleash (talk) 21:47, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

To see what the question was, follow the link in the section heading, which goes to Special:Diff/752547221.

That version has an error message which includes a link to the relevant help page.

As far as the logo is concerned, the licensing information, if present, appears to be malformatted.

There have been numerous subsequent edits, but nothing to show that the subject is notable under Wikipedia's definition. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:00, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

I did and saw the error message which subsequently disappeared. That's why I said 'currently'. The error related to a ref name in the infobox which had not been defined. There was no indication on the page, at that time, of what the editor intended to tie the ref name to. I did not though, look at the licensing as it not something I know a great deal about really. Eagleash (talk) 02:05, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Default image size

Thumb with no specified size

The default image size set in preferences does not seem to be working today, anyone else notice? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 20:19, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): It works for me. If you have problems then please link an example and say what your preference, browser and skin is, and which size you see. Note that the preference at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering only applies to thumbs with no specified size. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:35, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Contents and linking to paragraphs

How do I add the Contents paragraph with a link to each content's paragraph?

For example:

Contents 1. History 2. Business Model 2.1 Funding 3. Platforms 4. Reception 5. References — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oirios (talk • contribs) 23:26, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

If you mean the table of contents (ToC) seen near the top of many articles, this will appear when you create level 2 headings. I.e. coded thus ==History== etc. Note your own heading has been added to the ToC for this page. Eagleash (talk) 23:45, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Oirios, I made an edit to your draft article which is what I think you were looking for. †dismas†|^(talk) 00:31, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

References

I am trying to replace bare references with fully specified references. A lot of them are magazine articles, eg in Newsweek or whatever. When I am in edit mode and click to insert a Cite, it offers me four templates, for News, Journal, etc. I am not offered Magazine Template, even though I have the impression that that does exist. Can you advise me how I can get that? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CognitivePsychPhD2014 (talk • contribs) 23:59, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes it does exist; it has replaced Journal for non academic publications. The visual editor (edit mode) may not have caught up as yet. You might have to do them the 'long way'. Have you tried adding the template within the Vis Ed editing window. If you type 2 curly brackets it should ask you 'add template?' I.e. click on the ref No. and then 'edit' and go from there...some experimentation might be necessary. Eagleash (talk) 00:21, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

@CognitivePsychPhD2014: See Template:Cite magazine for the source editor. That is the editor you use now. The above reply refers to Wikipedia:VisualEditor. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:30, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! CognitivePsychPhD2014 (talk) 17:08, 5 December 2016 (UTC)