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Charles Pierrepont, 1st Earl Manvers

please check ref number 4 - found it hard to do 101.182.136.195 (talk) 01:49, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

 Fixed. I removed the quote= text in this edit.

Evelyn Pierrepont, 1st Duke of Kingston-upon-Hull

Ref number 7 . Please fix. I tried to copy and paste form the document , but failed. I need the genealogical step in there. The same problem occurred for ref. 4 on the page: Charles Pierrepont, 1st Earl Manvers.

Thanks so much 101.182.136.195 (talk) 01:54, 6 March 2016 (UTC Please help fix up ref number4 on cHarles, earl one manvers page. We cannot do it onthisdevice.it needs to fixed up like the page above - the dukep

I think this is what you intended. Mduvekot (talk) 02:20, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Please

Page question

I have a notification that my edit to my user page was "reviewed". Are my edits subject to pending changes, needing to be removed. Are they not immediate? Thank you for the help. 400 Lux (talk) 04:06, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

@400 Lux: No, there's no way to tag all of someone's edits as subject to review; only articles themselves can be tagged for such via pending changes protection. What you got was a message that a newly created article was patrolled. New pages are automatically added to the new page patrol backlog. There, experienced editors evaluate whether the articles qualify for speedy deletion or otherwise violate policy. Once an editor believes the page is alright, they click the "[Mark this page as patrolled]" line at the very bottom of the page. Doing so sends an alert to the person who created the page. Autopatrolled is a user right that bypasses this process and automatically marks every page an editor creates as having already been patrolled. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:47, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: or anyone... Do I need this auto patrolled feature to prevent my edit from being reviewed in the manner?? 400 Lux (talk) 06:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Autopatrolled doesn't actually do anything helpful for you. It only reduces the work required for other people, as your pages no longer show up at New Page Patrol. Once you've created 25 encyclopedia articles (ie, not talk pages or other miscellaneous pages), you can apply for the user right at requests for permissions. The reason why we require 25 articles is so that we can tell that you understand policy well enough that it's a waste of time to patrol your articles. Ignore the messages about how your pages have been patrolled; almost everyone gets those messages, and it does not mean anything. It's simply how Wikipedia works. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:54, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. You gave me enough detail to research this feature and I feel like I understand it a bit better now. 400 Lux (talk) 07:18, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Why my article is not publish

Dear,

Why my article JSPM's JSCOE MBA is not publish yet? I have created the page but it is not visible in general search, but when I go on to log in my account I can see it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JSPM's JSCOE MBA (talk • contribs) 06:52, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

In the first place, your “article,” User:JSPM's JSCOE MBA, is not an article but a user page. Further, if it were an article, it would be speedily deleted as being unambiguously promotional. Also, information about the MBA program should go in the college article, Jayawantrao Sawant College of Engineering. But you seem to work for the college; so you should not be editing that article because you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. —teb728 t c 09:56, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

We already have an article on JSCOE created at 21:51 on December 15, 2010‎ by editor:Rekenerd. The page you created seems to be about your own work there, and reads like a promotion for your courses, and so is not suitable to become a Wikipedia article. The contents of your user page are likely to be deleted in the near future, but you are welcome to continue editing the encyclopaedia. I suggest that you get some practice in improving existing articles before you try to create new ones. Happy editing. Dbfirs 09:56, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Confusion about warnings

Dear Sir U are sending me warnings that I am really not understanding as i am just economics professor and not from IT background. plz help me to load my page smoothly. warm regards....User/Dr Sujata Dhopte — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Sujata Dhopte (talk • contribs) 07:55, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

The warnings were about your edits to Wikipedia. It seems that no-one welcomed you, so I've added the usual welcome to your talk page with some reading to inform you about how things work here. You don't need to be from an IT background, but we all had to learn the rules of Wikipedia, and how best to edit, and what material is likely to get deleted. Please ask again here if you are not clear about warnings on your talk page. Dbfirs 09:48, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Charles Pierrepont, 1st Earl Manvers

I am now on a better laptop. I am sorry for my ramblings above. Please do check ref. number 4 on the above page. It is not how it should be - please see ref. number 7 on the page Evelyn Pierrepont, 1st Duke of Kingston-Upon-Hull as to how the example of this ref. should look. Thanks so much again from a confused, tired, old teacher 101.182.136.195 (talk) 09:11, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

All you need to do is copy the reference from Evelyn Pierrepont, 1st Duke of Kingston-upon-Hull and paste it into Charles Pierrepont, 1st Earl Manvers. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:30, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Gibside

Please check that you are happy with my restructuring on this page. Is the final subheading in the appropriate font? I don't think it is. Thanks again101.182.136.195 (talk) 10:15, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

You had put it at level 4 (four pairs of = signs) rather than 3. I have changed it. I haven't otherwise reviewed the article, though. --ColinFine (talk) 11:49, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Finding my books

I do not know what to do to find the books I have previously created. Please tell me step by step, once I have logged in, how to variegated to the books I have created. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasbflower (talk • contribs) 14:19, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

You'll find all your edits listed at Special:Contributions/Jasbflower, and you can get there by clicking the "Contributions" link at the top of any page. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:56, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Correction needed

Under the topic of Miss Delaware, the 1965 winner's name is incorrect. Kathleen Grandell was the winner. The last name is spelled incorrectly. Hopefully, someone will be able to correct it Kathleen Grandell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.177.184.135 (talk) 14:52, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Convenience link: Miss Delaware. Dismas|^(talk) 16:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

We'd be happy to fix it but it seems that the official Miss Delaware site says that the spelling, Kathleen Grandall, is correct. I suggest contacting them first since we would use that site as our reference for the spelling. Dismas|^(talk) 16:16, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Too many links

I am getting this error but all the links I have added are appropriate. The URL is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5710

It appears you are adding external links to many different Wikipedia pages in rapid succession. This is often a sign of people spamming Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted, preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites. Before you continue you may wish to review Wikipedia's policies of external links and spam as these may help you decide whether these links are appropriate for Wikipedia. Please feel free to ask at the Help Desk if you have any questions.

If you want to add references to the article, please, read WP:References for an appropriate way to do this. If you're sure you still want to make this edit, go to the bottom of this page and click 'Save page' again, and it will be submitted as is. If you were not trying to add links to many pages, and you received this message in error, you may report this error.

5710architecture (talk) 14:54, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Can't always access "Cite" in the wikitext edit window

I use the wikitext edit box (not Visual Editor) to edit Wikipedia. As shown at File:How to edit a page Edit box.png, when editing using that edit box, there are supposed to be "menus" for Advanced, Special characters, Help, and Cite at the top of the edit box. However, I don't get the Cite menu every time. Usually it's there -- but sometimes it doesn't appear, and all I get in those situations is Advanced, Special characters, and Help.

Is anyone else familiar with this problem, and, if so, what can be done to ensure that I can always access the Cite menu from the edit box? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:08, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I don't know. But technical issues with the site are usually posted, and get more informed responses, at WP:VPT. Not to put anyone here down at all but that is the place for more technical bug sorts of questions where as this desk is more for the "how do I cite this" or "how do I format a table for that" sorts of questions. Dismas|^(talk) 16:12, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I will try over there. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Adding reference to an article

Empathy-altruism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Tried to add reference of the article mentioned on the page: Empathy-Altruism:

• Batson, C.D., & Toi, M (1982). More evidence that Empathy is a Source of Altruistic Motivation. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 43 (2), 281-292.

I am the Toi part of this article. Could not figure out how to put this in the reference. MTS0001 (talk) 16:30, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello, You have tried to place the reference directly into the reference section whereas it needs to be placed in the text at the point where it is applicable using the template 'cite book' found at WP:CITET (scroll down to see examples) and between the ref tags found at the bottom of the edit window. If you are merely trying to show that the book was used as a source for the article without applying it to a particular instance, then you should use a separate sub-heading (type ;Sources) after the {{reflist}} template and then cite the book on a separate line If you are trying to add the book as additional material on the subject then you would need a section "Further reading" after the refs section and with 2 = signs either side of it to create the heading. However as co-author of the book I would suggest that you probably should not be adding it to further reading yourself as it could be considered a type of 'spam'. Eagleash (talk) 20:35, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I realise now there is already a further reading section. The book could be added there or as a reference to the article mentioned. Eagleash (talk) 20:46, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Put link inside of If statement

How can I put a link in an if statement? Below I have created an example: So I have a template page called "alt-link" (this is an example) with two inputs, which we will call "link" and "display". The link contains the actual link (eg link=Main Page), and the display contains the link shown (eg display=home). Here is what the template looks like:

[[{{{link}}}|{{{display}}}]]

Therefore, if I wanted to put this template on a page an link it to Wikipedia's Main Page but display home, the source would look like

{{alt-link|link=Main Page|display=home}}

which would look like this: home

But how could I include an if-then-else statement in the template? It would essentially show the "link" tag if no "display" tag was given. For example, if I only put

{{{alt-link|link=Main Page}}

then it would just look like Main Page. The logical code for this template would be:

{{#if:{{{display|}}}|[[{{{link}}}|{{{display}}}]]|[[{{{link}}}]]}}

This translates to: If there is a display tag, make the link [[link|display]]; if not, make the link [[link]].

However, it reads the | in the link as part of the if statement, so it does not work. How can I make it work correctly? Please help!

ThatsSoElliot (talk) 16:43, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Try using {{!}}, see also WP:Pipe trick. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 18:32, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Question about link

I have been trying to link to the page about pebbles (rocks of a certain size range) by putting the word 'pebble' in double square brackets, which takes me to the Disambiguation page. However, when I enter the word 'pebble' in the search window it takes me to the correct page, which appears to be called 'pebble'. What am I doing wrong? Georgialh (talk) 18:38, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Fixed. You we're linking "pebbles", not "pebble". --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 18:43, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Plz correct the information in the page "Mahatma Gandhi".

Plz correct the information in the page "mahatma Gandhi". It states

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (/ˈɡɑːndi, ˈɡæn-/;[2] Hindustani: [ˈmoːɦənd̪aːs ˈkərəmtʃənd̪ ˈɡaːnd̪ʱi] ( listen); 2 October 1869 – 30 January 1948) was the preeminent leader of the Indian independence movement in British-ruled India. Employing nonviolent civil disobedience, Gandhi led India to independence and inspired movements for civil rights and freedom across the world '''with the help of his son, Siddharth Rajan. The honorific Mahatma (Sanskrit: "high-souled", "venerable")[3]—applied to him first in 1914 in South Africa,[4]—is now used worldwide. He is also called Bapu (Gujarati: endearment for "father",[5] "papa"[5][6]) in India. In common parlance in India he is often called Gandhiji. He is unofficially called the Father of the Nation.[7][8]

'with the help of his son, Siddharth Rajan """""""". The above information is wrong. Please correct it asap.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.161.198 (talk) 19:04, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

 Done petty vandalism - now reverted and user warned - Arjayay (talk) 19:18, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

missing major data on page

List of cruise lines

This page is missing two major river cruise lines:

Grand Circle Travel

Vantage Travel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.173.23 (talk) 19:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - neither Grand Circle Travel, nor Vantage Travel have their own Wikipedia article. Although a few other names had been added to that list, without articles or references meeting WP:GNG these have now been removed. - Arjayay (talk) 19:46, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

If the original poster thinks that we should have articles about Grand Circle Travel and Vantage Travel, they can develop draft articles at Articles for Creation, optionally using the Article Wizard. If those drafts are accepted into article space, the list should have them added. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:29, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Donald J. Trumps page.

Please remove the link going to this page. www.loser.com, Unless you want a law suit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.161.87.168 (talk) 20:09, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I assume that you're referring to the fact that http://www.loser.com redirects to the Wikipedia article Donald Trump. However, you'll need to talk with the owner of the domain loser.com, because we at Wikipedia have no control over where that domain is redirected. General Ization ^Talk 20:18, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Also please see WP:NLT. Even if you're joking, much like talking about a bomb on an airplane, such talk is inadvisable and likely to get you blocked from editing. General Ization ^Talk 20:21, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I think they are asking to remove the sentence regrding loser.com from Donald Trump, which has now been done by another editor. RudolfRed (talk) 20:27, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I've warned the user about legal threats. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:57, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Upload new company logo

The page Bloody Disgusting has an outdated logo, my account is not autoconfirmed and was hoping someone could upload the new logo which is located here, thank you!

Owentomm (talk) 20:44, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

@Owentomm: When I click on that link to get the new image I get an access denied error. Would need a different link or that would have to be fixed so someone can get the new one. --Majora (talk) 20:47, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Your question was answered at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#upload company logo. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:51, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: my account is not autoverified so I cannot upload images myself, the page linked to from Teahouse suggests that I ask for help uploading the image here.

WP:FFU points you here if you are registered and autoconfirmed and need help uploading the image yourself. It then goes on to tell you how to submit a request for someone else to upload it. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

@Majora: Sorry, here's an alternate http://i.imgur.com/jhA4pOu.jpg Owentomm (talk) 20:56, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

@Owentomm and David Biddulph: All done anyways. FFU is the right place to request such things in the future but this time I cut out the middle man. --Majora (talk) 21:08, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

@Majora: Noted and thank you! Owentomm (talk) 21:10, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Preferenece "Show preview on first edit"

What does the editing preference "Show preview on first edit" do? The help page for preferences doesn't explain it. RudolfRed (talk) 21:58, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

See Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Customizing Wikipedia/Customizing with preferences#Editing. - David Biddulph (talk) 22:06, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the link RudolfRed (talk) 01:10, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Charles Pierrepont, 1st Earl Manvers

I have tried to get rid of the red words - "isis"- in the blue box on this page. But I cannot. Please put these words into blue colour like the words above isis. Thanks so much - your help is always appreciated Srbernadette (talk) 23:02, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

The link has been 'fixed' by another editor, but I think it may be to the wrong HMS Isis as, according to the text, Earl Manvers commanded a ship of that name in 1763, and the one linked was launched in 1774. There is no page for the 1747 ship so it could be linked to the disamb page HMS Isis, red-linked or left in plain text. Eagleash (talk) 23:17, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I was just headed here to mention the same thing Eagleash :-) The (my) confusion comes because there are 2 different ships from that period that were named Isis. The first was a French ship captured and renamed HMS Isis (1747) and the second HMS Isis (1774). Both had 50 guns. I am about to go back and fix my error. Srbernadette the link can't be changed to blue as there is no article (yet) for the Isis that CP served on. If anyone ever creates an article the link will turn blue automatically. MarnetteD|Talk 23:23, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 23:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

List of England cricketers who have taken five-wicket hauls on Test debut

Sorting the table in List of England cricketers who have taken five-wicket hauls on Test debut by the "Against" column creates inconsistent results. For example, a bunch of Australia entries, then a couple of South Africa entries, followed by some more Australia entries, then some more South Africa entries. I think that this is caused by the flag icon, but don't know how to fix it. Can anyone here help? --76.14.87.120 (talk) 23:55, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Nice spot, that must have been an issue ever since I created that article over a year ago.

Looks like the flags are causing the issue, but I don't know how to fix it (other than removing the flags). Joseph2302 (talk) 00:01, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

I've asked at WT:CRIC for help fixing. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:03, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

 Fixed By User:PeeJay2K3. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:16, 7 March 2016 (UTC)