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January 15

Article Redirected

hi, I had my recent page 2/2nd anti-tank regiment (australia) redirected to 2nd anti-tank regiment (Australia), these are two different military units and I want it reverted back to 2/2nd anti-tank regiment (australia). — Preceding unsigned comment added by AntiTankReg (talk • contribs) 02:18, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

The draft has been moved back to Draft:2/2nd Anti-Tank Regiment (Australia). General Ization ^Talk 02:24, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

thanks a lot very thankful :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AntiTankReg (talk • contribs) 02:27, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input I want to update a school attended for an athlete and cite ref is eyewitness and a Washington Post article

I want to add a school attended by a H.S. athlete and cite ref. eyewitness account and newspaper article at https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1990/02/07/no-5-flint-hill-shows-harker-the-way-to-be/82748745-0f07-49eb-8d60-4f267986321c/?utm_term=.edf3d999a171 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flintwatcha (talk • contribs) 03:14, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

The content of your message here had been commented out, but I assume that you intended it to be readable so I have taken the liberty of removing the comment tags. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:29, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

This edit may be what you intended? --David Biddulph (talk) 06:47, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Kumar: same person

This seems to be the same person, consider coming out in september 2011:

• Kumar (comedian)
• Kumar (Singaporean entertainer)

Queryzo (talk) 06:43, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, Kumar (comedian) appears to be the result of a 2016 cut and paste partial copy by the now indeffed user:Theagenda60616. This needs to be merged.There appear to be almost no substantial edits to the content other than a change to birthdate, so we can likely just redirect this after verifying the birthdate. Meters (talk) 07:07, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

My mistake. Created by now-indeffed User:Agend460616 who would appear to be the same editor. Meters (talk) 07:16, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

The differences in the article indicate that the Kumar (comedian) version is probably vandalism (his step-mother was a policewoman in the original, but a prostitute in the newer version, for example). Meters (talk) 07:22, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Nominated as speedy vandalism. Will take it to AFD (or just redirect it) otehrwise. Meters (talk) 07:42, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

N Deleted. Beeblebrox (talk) 07:51, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Profile

Username change, mistakenly typed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyclejuice9 (talk • contribs) 07:22, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

If you want to change your Wikipedia username see Wikipedia:Changing username. Sinceyou have no other edits there is actually not much point in changing your username. You can just abandon this username and create a new account under th desired name. Meters (talk) 07:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Article Review

Is there a way to get an article reviewed faster or is it just random, thankyou. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AntiTankReg (talk • contribs) 08:13, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

There's nothing honest you can do to speed the review process – if there were, everyone would be doing it. But you could increase the chance of eventual acceptance, by adding some references to independent sources with significant discussion of the subject. Maproom (talk) 11:04, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Synching reading lists on various devices

I use a number of devices to access Wikipedia

I enjoy the reading list facility

Is there a way of synching between / across devices?

(I have searched for this but could not come up with a tangible answer) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thetiesthatbind (talk • contribs) 09:18, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

• Hello Thetiesthatbind, as per Wikimedia Apps/Synced Reading Lists, the sync feature for reading lists was put on hold in September 2017. As per phab:2483, the development on the same is still ongoing. There's no further announcement on the same. Other editors here may have more information though. Thanks, Lourdes 15:36, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Should he be called Dr. Martin Luther King?

Good morning. How would one change an article that is protected from vandalism? The article on Dr. King lists him just as Martin Luther King. He was actually Reverand Dr. Martin Luther King ( he earned that degree). He was also more than an American Minister. Thank you!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheDCDoctor (talk • contribs) 12:14, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

One wouldn't change the subject title because Wikipedia uses the name by which the subject is usually known. Qualifications are given within the article. Dbfirs 12:26, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Two further comments. First, he didn't actually earn that degree. See Martin Luther King Jr. authorship issues. Second, prefixing a person's name with "Dr." is generally reserved for medical MDs, not PhDs. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:21, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Presumably, Dbfirs referred (but did not link) to this entry in our manual of style. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:35, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, thank you for finding the link. Dbfirs 08:29, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Crop & modify images

If I want to take a portion of an existing image on commons, currently licensed under Sharealike 3.0 and crop it in order to highlight a detail and fit the context of another article - where can I find advice on how to make sure the resulting upload meets all the criteria needed, licensing and attribution, etc? Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:51, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

You could avoid the problems of uploading and copyright, by using the image as it is, with "CSS image crop" to display just a region of it in the article. For an example, see the picture at Mustafizur Rahman. Maproom (talk) 14:31, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Got it - a bit hit & miss on the coords, but that did what I wanted. Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:23, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Lost visual editing

I switched a large sandbox creation to visual editing, worked for three hours and tried to go back to ordinary editing, but it seems like I lost all my work. :-((( 1) Is there any way to retrieve what is lost? 2) Next time how can you switch back and forth between visual and ordinary editing?

Adams1peace (talk) 13:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Edits which you have made and saved are listed at Special:Contributions/Adams1peace. If you didn't save your edit I fear that it's lost, unless your browser allows you to go back to it. To avoid the risking of losing work I would always recommend saving more often than after 3 hours, particularly if it's to your sandbox where nobody is going to complain about the history getting cluttered. Even for an article it's usually better to save in manageable chunks, so that if anyone needs to revert your edit they can revert one part rather than the whole lot. As to your question on the visual editor, I'll leave it to someone else to answer as I, along with many other experienced editors, don't use it. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:11, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

I see, looking at Draft:David Adams (peace activist), that you were confused by the button labelled "Publish changes". That is an unfortunate result of a software change by the WMF, the confusion being confounded by the fact that the instructions, such as in various help pages, weren't changed so some of them still refer to "Save" rather than "Publish" and the change wasn't properly explained. In the Draft namespace, the "Publish changes" button does not publish the page to the main (article) namespace, but merely updates the draft. When you want the draft to be reviewed you use the "Submit" button. Looking further at your draft I see that there are many misplaced external links in the body of the text. They need either removing, or moving to the "External links" section (but within the guidelines given at WP:External links) or converting to references, see the link Help:referencing for beginners which was given to you in the feedback on the draft. You need to deal with that before resubmitting your draft for review. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:44, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Edit war on maths reference desk

Hi, I don't know if this is the right place to notify people but there is an edit war at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Mathematics (history) - Q Chris (talk) 14:41, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Chris, the disruptive ips have all been blocked since then. In the future, you could report edit warring at WP:ANEW and cases requiring immediate attention at WP:ANI. Thanks, Lourdes 14:56, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Why only the IPs? The other two editors are experienced enough to know better, and unlike the IPs, had made no attempt to discuss the issue even via edit summary. Maproom (talk) 15:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

To be fair there is one edit summary that says "rv banned user on sight" and another that says "rv VxfC". Gandalf61 (talk) 15:23, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Maproom, I was just about to write the same thing as Gandalf above did. Probably multiple attempts by a banned user to edit. You could directly ask the blocking administrators if you require more information. Thanks, Lourdes 15:27, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

If there is edit warring (which is not clear in this case; see above), warn them with Template:Uw-3rr, and if the behavior persists after the warning, report them at WP:ANEW. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:29, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Could I get a hand with a malfunctioning AfD submission please?

I trying to nominate Gale Force for AfD, but the fact that it's already been through one [1] (where the deletion discussion might have picked up some warped formatting) seems to screw up the NPP send-to-AfD function. Can't seem to get it working manually either, and had to reverse out of two bungled attempts. Could someone else give it a go in my stead (in which case I will edit the nomination to clarify this problem, and add my nom statement), or otherwise figure out why it's not working? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:15, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

You need to set up a Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gale Force (2nd nomination) page. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 15:18, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Elmidae: I’ve created the discussion page (and tagged the article) if you would like to complete the nomination statement. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 15:29, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Elmidae: Perhaps enable Twinkle and then select "XFD" from the "TW" menu. Twinkle usually gets this right. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:23, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Ooh, I just understood why NPP can't do that - unreviewed articles won't have a prior AfD discussion, and this one is only in the queue because it was recreated from a redirect. Didn't twig onto the manual "2nd" thing. Thankis guys! --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:50, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Draft not published

Hi there, I published this draft several weeks ago, and it still had not been approved. I'm not sure what I'm missing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michael_Shanahan

Thank you, E. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ekennedy857 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

No, you didn't publish it, you merely saved the draft. If you want to submit it for review, add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft. WMF caused the confusion when they changed the label on the button from "Save changes" to "Publish changes" (and in particular did so without changing the various instructions). --David Biddulph (talk) 18:02, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Based on the page history [2] and [3] I actually think the change to "Publish" happened later the same day. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:52, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Ekennedy857: Hello, you have saved the page in draftspace. Confusingly Wiki changed the 'save' button to 'publish' a short while which has lead to misunderstandings. If you consider that the page is ready for mainspace then you can place {{subst:submit}} at the top of the source and click save (publish). This will submit the page for review which may take some time.

However, whilst typing, the page has been moved to mainspace. Eagleash (talk) 18:08, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

This is really confusing rules. Infinitepeace (talk) 20:55, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

When will I have enough edits to stop the Wikipedia:New_user_landing_page?

When will I have enough edits to stop the Wikipedia:New_user_landing_page? I have verified my email account. And I have over 20 edits. I want to edit on a real page.

I already created: Draft:Yuliya_Topolnitskaya

Infinitepeace (talk) 20:55, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Infinitepeace: Welcome to Wikiepedia and thanks for wanting to contribute. I'm not sure what triggers that page, but based on the history, it looks like it is related to WP:ACTRIAL. You will probably stop seeing it when your account becomes autoconfirmed, which will usually happen when your account is four days old with at least 10 edits. Until you get experience, working in draft space is a good idea. Creating a new article is a difficult task for new users. RudolfRed (talk) 21:24, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, your account must be at least four days old at the English Wikipedia and make ten edits. You have the edits but only 2 days and 11 hours here. Your 6 days at mediawiki.org don't count. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:28, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

thank you both very much! Infinitepeace (talk) 22:21, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata for redirects

When is it appropriate to create a Wikidata entry for a topic that has an article in one Wikipedia but a section redirect here? See es:Bordillo (arqueología), which covers the same subject as en:peristalith (note the comment at the top of the Spanish article: in English, the first language in which the element was described, it received the name "kerb" or "peristalith"), but the former's an article and the latter's a redirect to a section of Megalithic architectural elements. I can't remember if it would be a good idea to create an entry that links es:bordello (arqueología) and en:peristalith. Nyttend backup (talk) 22:09, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

List of hyperlinks within a Wikipedia article?

Hello, I would like to know if Wikipedia has the ability to generate a listing of hyperlinks contained within a particular article? For example, I would like to be able to view a list of all the click-able hyperlinks contained in the 'Minneapolis, Minnesota' page - if possible, in alphabetical order. I know it might seem like an odd request, but would be quite useful to me.

Thank you!

David L. Salem, OR75.164.206.34 (talk) 22:13, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

That's a nice functionality I too would desire. If I had had time, I would make s script for the same (unless any already exists; but not in my knowledge). In general, I currently use two methods. One is the longish method, where I click the "Edit Source" button and then do a <ctrl>+ "f" and search for "[[" through my browser. The other method is where I click on the Related changes button on the left tool bar while viewing any article; that provides a decent list of the linked articles within any article I'm viewing. Other editors here may have better answers for you. Thanks, Lourdes 04:55, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Autofill

Just yesterday, autofill expedited my edit comments. Now that feature seems to have disappeared. What happened? Clarityfiend (talk) 22:21, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Resolved

Never mind. I seem to have inadvertently turned it off in Chrome. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:12, 16 January 2018 (UTC)