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June 26[edit]

Television interviews posted to youtube[edit]

Is it OK to use a television interview posted to youtube as a footnote if the call letters of the station and/or the show appear on the screen?

  • It is never OK to link to copyright violations; see WP:YOUTUBE. Since you do not give a link, we cannot assess whether in your case the YT video is or not a copyvio, but generally speaking, anything that is not posted by the official account of the television channel or show is a copyvio.
Also, when you write "footnote", you probably meant "reference". See WP:REFB for how to insert references, if you do not know how to do it already. TigraanClick here to contact me 09:17, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

please help me[edit]

please tell me in detail what i have to edit in my article. Actually i want to create a page or article for my website roxstarindia. Please guide me in detail what i have to add and what i have to edit. And also tell me what reference i have to add in it, but i don't have any reference so please tell me the list of reference which i can add in the article. My Article is Draft:roxstarindia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikhiljain founder (talk • contribs) 08:52, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Don't spam the same question in different places (Here and the Teahouse) it won't get you a faster answer, it will only anger the people you're relying on for help. - X201 (talk) 09:03, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't create an article about your own website. Please read the guidance here: Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not about YOU. It's very difficult to write neutrally about yourself or your own creation, and that's probably the reason your draft reads like an advertisement, as the reviewers have told you. It's not written neutrally, but with praise such as "gives everyone a chance to show their talent" and "they just want to uplift the talent which is present in every one" and they have a "will to uplift India". Sorry, but if RoxStarIndia is notable according to our notability criteria, then please leave it for somebody else to create a wikipedia article about it. Bishonen | talk 09:10, 26 June 2018 (UTC).[reply]
First. Don't edit it. You seem to be operating under the idea that Wikipedia is a place to promote your website. It is not. Wikipedia is not interested in what you have to say about your website, Wikipedia reflects what other independent reliable sources are saying about your website. Seeing as roxstarindia is your own website, you have a conflict of interest (WP:COI) and shouldn't be trying to create a Wikipedia article about it, you can request it, but not make it. If you read the links in the draft headers that were added to your draft when @KylieTastic: and @Theroadislong: declined it, you will get a good idea of what is required from a Wikipedia article. - X201 (talk) 09:15, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref[edit]

130.149.102.55 (talk) 09:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)I want to delete the reference [46] in the artikel Rastatt Tunnel. I don´t know how, pleace help me.130.149.102.55 (talk) 09:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to have been fixed with this edit. Eagleash (talk) 10:15, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Using a preferred edit mode[edit]

I noticed my problem with editing is also on the particular page too. I have enabled visual editor as my preferred choice but i still do not get that option when i try editing some pages and especially talk pages. Even with this help desk this option is still not available on the page. Any help please?? ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by TereseB (talk • contribs) 10:27, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TereseB: I replied at Wikipedia talk:Help desk#Using a preferred edit mode. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:39, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Images[edit]

How can I get images for an article if it is not available in Wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanjaysmn25 (talk • contribs) 10:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you could upload images yourself. But first, read Wikipedia:Image use policy#Selecting images for uploading. Warmly, Lourdes 12:12, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AOAC INTERNATIONAL[edit]

Our association’s Wikipedia page is being vandalized. Each time our editor corrects the page to update the page regarding the new activities of our association, an individual reverts it back to a description of our previous business model. This antagonist may be a former member who disagrees with the recent change in our business model. How can we restrict editing so that our site is locked down to such maliciousness.Thanks, Bob50.249.43.187 (talk) 14:28, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You need to read about conflict of interest (& paid editing if appropriate), copyright violation, page ownership, and the prohibition of promotion. You also need to assume good faith. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:48, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) - Unfortunately it appears that you have some common misunderstandings about how Wikipedia works:-
  1. Our article AOAC International is not "your" page - it is Wikipedia's page about the association
  2. Our articles should be based on what reliable, WP:Independent, third party sources have said about the association, not what the association has said about itself, or wants to promote
  3. "Your editor" should not be editing tha page, as they have a clear conflict of interest and they have not declared their WP:Paid editing which is a requirement before they/you undertake any more edits
  4. As has been explained at User talk:68.134.24.178 the material you are adding is a copyright violation, so it has to be removed under our rules. The fact that your association produced it, and wants it added, is immaterial,
  5. It appears that the "Vandal" you are referring to is User:Sarahj2107 a trusted administrator on Wikipedia, athough another editor has also removed the re-addition of promotional additions
  6. Our articles are not "restricted" to prevent the removal of unacceptable, promotional content, as this should be removed, or to preserve a version that the company or organization prefers
I suggest you read and follow our WP:paid editing requirements and Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. As you have already been warned, any further re-additions of copyright material will result in your IP address being blocked - Arjayay (talk) 14:56, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's worse than it looks. I've blocked three sock puppet accounts operating under forbidden user names, and semi-protected to stop the ip socks from fiddling with this article. Ironic that User:Sarahj2107 is described as a vandal, when she's actually being fairly kind considering the level of bad faith editing involved in this article Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:05, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"TV" vs. "television"[edit]

The answer is probably somewhere in vast MoS tome, but: is there a guideline for using "TV" vs. "television"? Specifically, in tables, lists and captions where brevity is preferred. —2606:A000:1126:20CE:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 19:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See MOS:ABBR? †dismas†|(talk) 19:56, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Specifically, "Generally use "TV" in most articles except historic articles and cultural or scholarly discussions, e.g. "TV show", "TV cameras", "the effects of television on speech patterns". Do not link or explain in normal usage." --HunterM267 talk 19:59, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks —2606:A000:1126:20CE:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 20:34, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mayor of Healdsburg[edit]

  • Note: Following moved from top of page. Eagleash (talk) 23:46, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mayor Brigette Mansell would like to see the City of Healdsburg updated. Vice Mayor is now David Hagele and I am now mayor. McCaffrey is a City Councilman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:649:1:287F:E483:91CE:7445:1D2E (talk) 21:08, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

unabbreviated Kelvin[edit]

I am fluent with the {{convert}} template. However, Kelvin always seems to be abbreviated. With my understanding, {{convert|11|K|C F|0}} should output "11 Kelvin (−262 °C; −440 °F)" not "11 K (−262 °C; −440 °F)". Am I missing something?User-duck (talk) 22:15, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

According to the template page for the temperature conversion, it would appear as though it should be output as "11 K (−262 °C; −440 °F)". --HunterM267 talk 22:22, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You can use {{convert|11|K|C F|0|abbr=off}} (result: 11 kelvins (−262 degrees Celsius; −440 degrees Fahrenheit) ), but that unabbreviates all of the units. You should probably ask at Template talk:Convert. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 22:30, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, @Hunterm267: and @Pppery:. I just realized that input temperature is never spelled out in any of the {{convert}} examples. This must be the first time I have wanted to spell out a temperature unit. The Template:Convert documentation says, "By default, the first quantity shows unit name, the second shows the symbol (or abbreviation):" The template page for the temperature conversion clearly states the unit is "kelvin" and the abbreviation is "K". (I mistakenly thought that kelvin was capitalized, should have known better.) |abbr=off turns off the abbreviation of the output unit and |abbr=on turns on the abbreviation of the input unit. I will bring it up on Template talk:Convert but I am sure they will not be anxious to change the template behavior. I am sure a bot script can be created to change existing temperature converts: {{convert|<val>|[K,C,F]|…}} → {{cvt|<val>|[K,C,F]|…}}.User-duck (talk) 03:33, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Markle[edit]

Re number 3 is wrong - please fix. I did not do it! Thanks 110.147.205.88 (talk) 22:44, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The DoB was changed without explanation, possibly disruptively. The editor that did so also changed the ref name so it did not show correctly. I have reverted. However, the source may not give the actual DoB... it says he is 73 years old so could be either 1944 or 1945. Eagleash (talk) 23:07, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lupton family[edit]

I have failed when adding a file from commons in the Charles Lupton section of this page. The title below should be Lord Mayor of Leeds Sir Charles Lupton. Please repair if you can, thankyou110.147.205.88 (talk) 22:59, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, can you clarify why an image seemingly of Arthur Stockdale Cope, which appears to be what you were trying to add, would be used in this instance? Eagleash (talk) 23:36, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lupton family[edit]

This image from commons - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arthur_Stockdale_Cope_-_Charles_Lupton.jpg - is the "Lord Mayor of Leeds, Sir Charles Lupton". The painter/portraitist is Arthur Stockdale Cope. Please add it to the page in the correct section and make it a bit smaller if you think that is in keeping with the other files on the page and possible. Thanks 110.147.205.88 (talk) 00:02, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For crying out loud, please stop adding a new section when you are continuing a discussion on an existing topic. How many times do you need to be told? --David Biddulph (talk) 00:09, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry - just when I thought I was getting better at this - I am still making mistakes. Sorry and thanks for your patience. 110.147.205.88 (talk) 00:17, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And the answer as to how to add an image is still at Help:Pictures, just as it was when you last asked from a different IP address. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
FIXED IT! BUT, I feel that the link OBE beside the name Charles Lupton in this section should be in capitals but smaller too such as I have seen on other pages - I cannot get it right. Sorry - please help if you are not too busy. 110.147.205.88 (talk) 00:26, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've done that, using the {{post-nominals}} template. Deor (talk) 14:59, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A user is reverting a page with their own opinion[edit]

Hello, I tend to try to resolve these issues by directly contacting admins, but since I'm quite inexperienced with how Wikipedia works and I want to do these things correctly, I'd like to know what I have to do, and indeed if it is possible, to report an editor's edits. On the page about listing mental disorders in film, a user named Edward321 keeps deleting the section concerning schizophrenia, citing it as an "unsourced opinion" in his edits... which I find doubly doubtful, as a diagnosed schizophrenic myself.

Obviously, there's contention here, but I feel I'm at least correct in assuming he should talk about it on the talk page before making such changes. I don't really want to start an edit war (I already reverted his change once and he almost immediately reverted mine), so I figured this would be the best place to ask how I should go about this.

Thank you for any help provided ! I don't want to annoy anyone with this ultimately fairly small annoyance.

(pinging User:Edward321) (I assume you are 90.44.173.180 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)) I think Edward was right on this one; only one of the multitude of entries was sourced. The 'unsourced opinion' he is referring to is not whether or not schizophrenia is a mental disorder, but whether these films had any schizophrenia-related content or characters. TeraTIX 23:50, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ah I see, thank you. That clears it up, I suppose, although it wasn't very clear from the edits

  • Actually, you are the one who should initiate the discussion on the article's talk page. Our convention here is called "bold, revert, discuss". See WP:BRD. You started by boldly editing, Edward321 reverted, and now you may discuss the issue on the talk page. It takes a bit of getting used to. Please don't take the "revert" step personally, it's just one step in our process of developing the encyclopedia. The discussion is needed only if you disagree with the reversion after you look at the edit summary, which is often terse and possibly confusing. You can find it by clicking on the "veiw history" tab at the top of the article's page. Please don't get discouraged. -Arch dude (talk) 02:44, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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