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April 20

Thank you!

Thank you from a real person who has to check facts and ensure that the information i distribute to my children and friends is based in fact. I appreciate everything that the admins, staff,etc. do everyday to distribute only information that has been verified and coincide with other people places or things that we all know to be facts. THANK YOU ALL!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:640:C101:56AC:1D45:E2F2:8135:FE9C (talk) 06:24, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Difficulty using harvnb template

I'm struggling to make a short-cite work on the climate sensitivity page. The reference after: The IPCC literature assessment estimates that TCR likely lies between 1 °C and 2.5 °C does not link to the full citation given in the sources section. I've tried a lot of different options and no idea what to try next. Could anybody more technically skilled than me have a look? Many thanks! Femke Nijsse (talk) 08:16, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

@Femkemilene: I said ref= harv in the full citation.[1] "Collins et al. 2013" now links there. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:25, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Because in the {{harvnb}} you listed four individual authors but in the {{citation}} template you had |ref={{harvid|IPCC AR5 WG12013}}. Editor PrimeHunter changed that to |ref=harv. I removed that because {{citation}} sets |ref=harv automatically. I suspect that this problem is a carry-over from the silliness that confuses matters by naming title abbreviations as authors: |author=IPCC AR5 WG1 and |author=IPCC AR4 WG1 in the top two citation templates in §Sources but then, in the separate chapter {{citation}} templates, redefines that same 'author' name in |title=IPCC AR5 WG1. Yeah, don't do that. When taken in isolation (and these citations may be because cs1|2 create metadata that can be / is scraped by automated citation tools) the isolated citation claiming that 'IPCC AR5 WG1' will be wrong and mislead readers using that scraped data.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 10:54, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Why has shading appeared on part of an edit I have done ?

Why has shading appeared on part of an edit I have done ? It was part of a paragraph of text I added. I assume I have made some sort of syntax error, how to fix it ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewHart500 (talk • contribs) 08:45, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

@AndrewHart500:  Fixed. There was a space in front of the very first character of your edit, which will produce the shaded area of text. Also fixed some curly apostrophes to straight ones. Some copy-editing may be necessary to make the language a little more neutral and encyclopedic. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:26, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

AndrewHart500 Sorry, the whole section will need to be revised as it was copied verbatim from the magazine interview cited. We can't do this because it is regarded as a copyright violation. Please rewrite the section in your own words, still citing the source, and adopting a neutral tone, taking particular care with regard to anything we say about living people: Bhunacat10 (talk), 09:29, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Bhunacat10, good catch. Eagleash (talk) 09:33, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Letter K - Index & Help Desk Templates ?

How fast do we want to kill-off Wikipedia®

And there's no letter K on the startup index of subjects. Wikipedia will see a big spurt of newcomers when volunteers and staff do a thorough house cleaning. See what's old, new, passé.

"Kraut Rock" LOVE it. More than the new Grunge description of lifestyle and musician techniques. But now I can't find it. Wikipedia must have thousands of fans and contributors overseas in Europe, the Middle East, almost everywhere. They might be willing and anxious to help. Are there really Five Levels for making format and content suggestions for Wikipedia? I've thought it's more easy going tossing around ideas. Not five stages and levels. Anyway, thank you all for listening.

Jim Setbacken104.220.57.85 (talk) 09:30, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello Jim. Do you have a question about how to edit Wikipedia? I am not sure what you mean by a startup index, but you can find a list of all Wikipedia articles beginning with K at Special:AllPages/K. And we do have an article about Kraut rock. You can comment on that article on its talk page at Talk:Krautrock.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:00, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

It's true that Wikipedia:Glossary had the J and K run together in the alphabetical contents bar (now fixed). But that glossary is only for special terms used within the Wikipedia project. To find Wikipedia articles, the commonest way is just to use the "Search Wikipedia" box present on every Wikipedia page. There are over 5 million articles now, so any search structure is bound to be complex. There is the alphabetical listing for any letter or group of letters, as the post above says. Then there is Portal:Contents, then there are systems of categories, indices, outlines, (dare I mention) portals...: Bhunacat10 (talk), 13:40, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Michelle McKinney Hammond

content of proposed article

Michelle Ayodele McKinney Hammond (born August 6, 1957) is the best-selling author of over 40 books, with over two million copies sold worldwide. Her best-selling titles include What To Do Until Love Finds You, The Diva Principle, Sassy, Single and Satisfied, 101 Ways to Get and Keep His Attention, and Secrets of an Irresistible Woman. She is also an ordained minister, international speaker, singer/songwriter, actress, producer and television presenter as well as an ambassador for Compassion International. Michelle has spoken for churches, conferences and corporate events from EWomen, Women of Virtue, The Potters House, World Changers, New Birth, The Crystal Cathedral, KICC, to Walmart. A gifted songwriter/vocalist, Michelle has recorded four solo CD’s, It’s Amazing, Let’s Go In, Come Let Us Worship, and With Love. She is the visionary and pastor of Relevance, a unique music ministry in Ghana, West Africa. Blending rock, reggae and jazz with African rhythyms have created their own genre of music called “Rockspiration”. They have written, produced and released 3 CD’s Forever, The Greatest Gift and For Love’s Sake. She is an Emmy Award-winning co-host of the Total Living Networks’ television talk show Aspiring Women she co-hosted for ten years as well as over 100 episodes of TCT’s 3D Woman. Michelle McKinney Hammond has most recently appeared in Roma Downey and Mark Burnett’s productions of Women of the Bible on Lifetime, and A.D. The Bible Continues. She has done inspirational segments on their new network Lightworkers.com and LIGHT tv. She has also appeared on countless television shows as including Bill Maher’s Politically Incorrect, E Channel’s “Soap Talk,” NBC’s The Other Half, The 700 Club, The James Robison Show, Better TV and BET’s Oh Drama! And has appeared as a regular relationship segment on WGN Morning News. Michelle has also been featured in several African movies and television series and starred in the Ghanaian film Candle in The Wind. She recently completed writing, producing and starring in her first film entitled First Love, a romantic comedy.  She has appeared on the cover of, written, or been featured in articles in magazines such as Today’s Christian Woman, Precious Times, The Plain Truth, Gospel Today, Spirit Led Woman, Discipleship Journal, Shine, Essence, Ebony, Jet, Black Enterprise Magazine, The Chicago Tribune, The Associated Press and The New York Times. Following a devastating accident that left her bed-ridden, 3 surgeries later Michelle wrote her first bestseller, What To Do Until Love Finds You for Harvest House Publishers. She has emerged as a highly-respected author, Bible teacher, speaker and singer, and relationship/empowerment coach reaching a diverse audience nationally and internationally. From 2007-2010 Michelle hosted several D.I.V.A. (Divine Inspiration for Victorious Attitude) Conferences and cruises in the U.S. These were a series of intensive empowerment workshops. Michelle credits her songwriting ability to several mentors, Morris “Butch” Stewart, Paul David Wilson, Denise Mitchell and Sandra Crouch. Working with Morris and Paul crafting jingles for top clients in advertising was the perfect training ground for songwriting. Many collaborations occurred giving her a great catalog of songs. This expanded when she teamed up with Laney Stewart, “Kuk” Harrell, and Ken Hale landing them a song publishing deal with Famous Music Publishing, now Sony Music. She credits Terri McFaddin Solomon, P. “Bunny” Wilson and Luther Blackwell as her spiritual mentors who impacted the way she studied the word of God and eventually began her writing career. The Early Years Born Michelle Sharon Branker, in London, England August 6, 1957. She relocated to Barbados, West Indies at the age of two. She attended St. Gabriels’ Girls School until she relocated to the United States at age seven settling in Muskegon, Michigan. She attended Froebel Elementary, East Grace Loftis Elementary, Muskegon Heights Junior High, and Catholic Central High School. Adopted by her mothers’ new husband, William McKinney her last name was changed to Michelle McKinney. Upon being reunited with her natural father George Hammond, years later her middle name was changed to her original name Ayodele and the name Hammond was added to her name. Thus, her present name Michelle Ayodele McKinney Hammond. She worked at The Muskegon Chronicle while attending Muskegon Junior College studying Graphic Arts. She then moved to Chicago, Illinois and attended Ray Vogue School of Design and completed a course on Commercial Art. 1979-1991 Michelle spent 15 years as an award-winning art director/copywriter/producer at the largest AA advertising agency in the US, Burrell Communications. Her clients included Coca Cola USA, McDonald’s, Procter & Gamble, GMC and Ford Motor Company. She worked with numerous celebrities including Aretha Franklin, Earth,Wind and Fire, Nancy Wilson, Don Cheadle, Ray Parker Jr., New Edition, The Temptations, Al Jarreau, Kool and the Gang, Peabo Bryson, Kristoff St. John, Richard Lawson, Dennis Haysbert. The O Jays and many more. She won numerous awards including a USA Television Award, Windy Award, a Gold & Bronze Philo, and over 20 CEBA (Creative Excellence in Black Advertising Awards) Michelle has sung or performed voice-overs for national radio and television commercials for Coca-Cola, McDonald’s, Sprite, Ford Motor Company, Crest Toothpaste and Extra Sugar-Free Gum. Present Michelle resides in Ghana, West Africa and travels extensively throughout America and internationally, speaking to men and women from all walks of life. Books Authored by Michelle McKinney Hammond • What To Do Until Love Finds You, Harvest House Publishers • Secrets of an Irresistible Woman, Harvest House Publishers • The Power of Being A Woman, Harvest House Publishers • Sassy, Single and Satisfied, Harvest House Publishers • Why Do I Say Yes When I Need To Say No, Harvest House Publishers • 101 Ways to Get and Keep His Attention, Harvest House Publishers • The Diva Principle, Harvest House Publishers • The Diva-tudes, Harvest House Publishers • A Sister Girls’ Guide to Living, Loving and Overcoming, Harvest House Publishers • If Men Are Like Buses How Do I Catch One?, Multnomah Publishers • How to Be Blessed and Highly Favored, Waterbrook Press • Get Over It and On With It, Waterbrook Press • In Search of the Proverbs 31 Man, Waterbrook Press • How to Be Found by the Man You’ve Been Looking For, Harvest House Publishers • Finding the Right Woman for You, Harvest House Publishers • Where Are You God?, Harvest House Publishers • Lessons From A Girls Best Friend, Harvest House Publishers • A Sassy Girls Guide to Loving God, Harvest House Publishers • How To Avoid the 10 Mistakes Single Women Make, Harvest House Publishers • If Singleness Is A Gift What Is the Return Policy?, Thomas Nelson Publishers • Single-minded Devotion, Harvest House Publishers • How to Make Love Work, Faith Words/Hachette Publishing • How to Make Life Work, Faith Words/Hachette Publishing • How To Get Past Disappointment, Harvest House Publishers • How To Be Happy Where You Are, Harvest House Publishers • How To Get The Best Out Of Your Man, Harvest House Publishers • A Woman’s Gotta Do What A Woman’s Gotta Do, Harvest House Publishers • Diva-nomics, Tyndale Publishing • The Real Skinny on Losing It, Tyndale Publishing • The Real Deal on Love and Men, Harvest House Publishers • Getting Smart About Life, Love and Men, Harvest House Publishers • Secrets to a Man’s Heart, Harvest House Publishers • Right Attitudes for Right Living, Harvest House Publishers • What Women Don’t Know and Men Don’t Tell You, Busara Press • The Last Ten Percent, Harvest House Publishers • Playing God, Harvest House Publishers • The Real Deal on Overcoming Heartache, Harvest House Publishers • Release the Pain, Embrace the Joy, Regal Publishing • Wounded Hearts, Renewed Hope, Harvest House Publishers • Intimate Thoughts, Whispered Prayers, Harvest House Publishers Music CD’s • It’s Amazing • Let’s Go In • Come Let Us Worship • With Love • Forever- Relevance featuring Michelle McKinney Hammond • The Greatest Gift- Relevance featuring Michelle McKinney Hammond • For Love’s Sake- Relevance featuring Michelle McKinney Hammond Awards • Emmy • Gold Philo • Bronze Philo • U.S. Television Commercial Award • Windy Award • Over 20 CEBA (Creative Excellence in Black Advertising) Awards • 1st Runner-up Miss Muskegon Pageant Featured in Publications • Todays’ Christian Woman • The Plain Truth • Ebony Magazine • Essence Magazine • Jet Magazine • Black Enterprise Magazine • Black Excellence Magazine • Precious Times Magazine • Discipleship Today • Shine Magazine • Gospel Today • Spirit Led Woman • The Chicago Tribune • The New York Times • Associated Press Television Appearances • Aspiring Women-TLN Network, cohost for 10 years • 3D Woman- TCT Network, cohost Guest Television Appearances • Women of the Bible, Lifetime • Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher, NBC • Oh Drama!, BET • SoupTalk, ET • The Other Half, NBC • The 700 Club • 100 Huntley Street • The James Robison Show • Better TV • Joni Table Talk, Daystar Network • Celebration, Daystar Network • It’s A New Day Movies • Bloodline • Candle in the Wind • Love Regardless • Single and Married • In God We Trust • Getting Married TV Series • Poisoned Bait • The Devils Work • Boys and Girls • The Antonios Outside links: www.michellehammond.com www.relevancelife.org

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tega Elizabeth Baah (talk • contribs) 14:29, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

@Tega Elizabeth Baah:The help desk is not the place to submit an article. Please take a look at WP:YFA. -Arch dude (talk) 15:02, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Search block logs

Can they be searched?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Bbb23, what do you wish to search, precisely? See Special:Logs. ∯WBG^converse 16:02, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

The text.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:03, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

No. T14984 lying idle for over a decade. ∯WBG^converse 16:07, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

There is a parent task at phab:T120764. Also, it appears that User:Cenarium fixed a related issue in 2016, phab:T20954, and it got deployed then. So the issue of log searching hasn't been stuck forever. There was some mention of having to create new indexes, which was a deterrent to going ahead. There was a 2015 Community Wishlist entry at meta:Community Wishlist Survey 2015/Special pages#Improve Special:Log. EdJohnston (talk) 17:19, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

The core issue of searching log texts have been stuck forever, as to the developers' end. 20954 is linked to the broader goals. ∯WBG^converse 17:39, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Muting already-read text on a frequently-visited page

Is it possible to mute (hide, make smaller or lighter) text on a frequently-visited page so that when the same logged-in user returns to it the next time, any new text added since the last time stands out more clearly? I'm not talking about mainspace articles, but examples that would help me would be the Reference Desk pages and this Help Desk. I've been using the "skip to bottom" shortcut to start reading the newest material and then scrolling up until I recognize a section I've read previously, but there should be a more elegant way to do this.--Thomprod (talk) 19:10, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Thomprod, I usually browse pages like that using my watchlist, which has changes grouped by page (setting in Preferences > Recent changes > Advanced options > Group changes by page). That gives me a handy "Changes since last visit" link that I can click to take me to the diff, and also makes my watchlist less cluttered with the frequently changing pages. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:54, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Alpha3031. I'll give that a try.Thomprod (talk) 14:25, 22 April 2019 (UTC)