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April 16[edit]

Why is an official government website blacklisted?[edit]

I am trying to add an "external link" to an article. The link is to an official governmental site. Whenever I try to add it, I get a warning that says "this site is blacklisted, so it cannot be added" (or some such). Why would an official governmental site be blacklisted and, thus, disallowed?

The article is Todt family murders.

The "blacklisted" external link site is:

[https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiKkuyt2pf3AhU2hIkEHYwPCEc4ChAWegQIBBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myflfamilies.com%2Fchildfatality%2Freports%2F2020-016608.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0NRGQYpXATyROH0Xp6PsmE] .

This is a 3- or 4-page PDF file of an official report issued by a Florida state governmental agency. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:39, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The government site is not blacklisted. Linking to it through Google's URL redirection service is. Directly linking to https://www.myflfamilies.com/childfatality/reports/2020-016608.pdf works just fine. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:51, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect. Thank you so much! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 05:19, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Almost all redirection sites are blacklisted per policy. Shantavira|feed me 09:01, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That is a primary source, which can only be used for limited purposes, as you might already know. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 22:16, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved

Writing A new Article[edit]

Hello,

I want to create an page for an antrepreneur.

What are the steps after finish the article until it is public — Preceding unsigned comment added by Codros (talkcontribs) 06:28, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:FIRST. But if it is written in the style of a LinkedIn profile and the main sources are blogs, personal websites etc, it will probably not make it to mainspace. There may also be a conflict of interest.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:36, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The article is Draft:Ionuț Gabriel Bălan and it does have the problems mentioned above.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:49, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To make the article suitable for acceptance into this encyclopedia, most (or all) factual statements need to be backed with a a published reference that is cited, inline, in the text. These are called references. The statement "Gabriel was born in Focșani Romania on the 24th of November 1989" needs an inline reference. The statement "His first gig, around the year 2007, was selling cars" needs an inline reference. And so on.
As @User:Ianmacm has said, if this is written like a LinkedIn profile, it won't be accepted. Also, the person must be notable. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 08:14, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Codros. I suspect that a big part of your difficulty is that, like many people, you think that "creating a page for" is something we do on Wikipedia. It is not (though people sometimes use the phrase loosely). A more accurate characterisation would be "creating an encyclopaedia article about". The article will not belong to its subject, it will not be controlled by the subject, it will not be for the subject's benefit except incidentally, it will not neceesarily say what the subject wants to say, and it should be nearly 100% based on what people unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject, not on what the subject or their associates say or want to say. ColinFine (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Letter case[edit]

Are capitalics (is it called "capitalics" or "capitals"?) correct after – symbol at FV103 Spartan#Operators? Eurohunter (talk) 08:34, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(It's called "capitals" or "capital letters".) The answer to your main question is "no" (see MOS:CAPS). Bazza (talk) 08:55, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Bazza 7: Good to know. What to do if I fix whole article then after 6 month a lot of users add capitals to their new added content? Eurohunter (talk) 15:29, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer to include links to guidelines, etc., in the edit summary: for example, "remove capitals (MOS:CAPS)". If others come along later and add new content which doesn't conform, then simply repeat! If you don't already, you can keep an eye on what you edit by always ticking "Watch this page" on the edit form. Bazza (talk) 16:52, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, "capital letters" are also referred to as "uppercase letters" (e.g., A, B, C, D) ... as opposed to "lowercase letters" (e.g., a, b, c, d). Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:03, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And there's majiscule and minuscule, but I do prefer the throwback to "proper" printing with its upper and lower cases. (It looks like a new redirect page is needed.) Bazza (talk) 17:16, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. The throwback to a simpler time is very cool. I made a new redirect, also. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:53, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Uw-brd[edit]

At Template:Uw-brd, it says that {{subst:uw-brd|Article}} references a specific article. I tried typing {{subst:uw-brd|Template:Eisbrecher}} at User talk:X750, but the template link did not show up. Do you know why? Please {{ping}} me when you respond. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:00, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jax 0677: The code for the template doesn't define any parameters to change, so the documentation is misleading. To be more specific, the documentation is pulled from {{single notice}}, which is a templated documentation for single-notice warnings. I added the |nopage= parameter to remove some of the examples, but one remains. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:28, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Reply - @Tenryuu:, can "{{subst:Uw-brd||Additional text}} or {{subst:Uw-brd|2=Additional text}}" be removed from Template:Uw-brd? --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:47, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jax 0677: You'd probably have to substitute the documentation template, then manually remove it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:15, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Removing that Usage line just required an additional param to an internal template. - R. S. Shaw (talk) 20:19, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Finding DAB links on a page[edit]

I recently reverted a disruptive page edit and got a "Disambiguation pages added" (or something like that). Is there a way to tell which are DAB links without linking to each? Thanks Adakiko (talk) 20:43, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this is what you are asking for, but WP:DABSOLVER. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 22:46, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lee Vilenski: That's what I was looking for! Thanks Adakiko (talk) 00:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]