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February 22

A Class nom

I am struggling to nominate Oswald Boelcke for A Class review in WP Military History, to no avail.Georgejdorner (talk) 01:14, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

The instructions are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/A-Class review. If that doesn't work I suggest asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. TSventon (talk) 14:20, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Nana Araba Apt page edit

 Courtesy link: Nana Araba Apt

Hello, I tried updating the above page but could not add Notes and references. I found that my edits were undone as “it was not sourced”. Possibly because I had not finished the update. I need help finalising this page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PetrusHenricus (talk • contribs) 12:33, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

@PetrusHenricus: You can try doing changes in small steps, adding one sourced information at a time. Or you can discuss a better way of updating the article with the reverting editor at the article's talk page. --CiaPan (talk) 12:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Dealing with URLs that contain pipes

Hi - does anyone have any pointers on how to use URLs in a citation when the address has a pipe in it? You'll see the problem if you look at the versions on either side of this diff. Suggestions? Girth Summit _(blether) 13:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

{{cite journal |last1=Julier |first1=Alice P. |title=Review: BITE ME! FOOD IN POPULAR CULTURE by Fabio Parasecoli |journal=Food, Culture & Society |date=June 2010 |volume=13 |issue=2 |url=https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?p=AONE&u=googlescholar&id=GALE{{!}}A236333289&v=2.1&it=r&sid=AONE&asid=91a5e0aa |access-date=22 February 2022}}

Julier, Alice P. (June 2010). "Review: BITE ME! FOOD IN POPULAR CULTURE by Fabio Parasecoli". Food, Culture & Society. 13 (2). Retrieved 22 February 2022.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Or %7C (edit conflict ... of a sort!) --GRuban (talk) 14:02, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

A better solution is likely this:

{{cite journal |last1=Julier |first1=Alice P. |title=Review: BITE ME! FOOD IN POPULAR CULTURE by Fabio Parasecoli |journal=Food, Culture & Society |date=June 2010 |volume=13 |issue=2 |doi=10.2752/175174410X12633934463439 |doi-access=free}}

Julier, Alice P. (June 2010). "Review: BITE ME! FOOD IN POPULAR CULTURE by Fabio Parasecoli". Food, Culture & Society. 13 (2). doi:10.2752/175174410X12633934463439.

because that url may not be long-lived and eventually go 404. I have seen too many go.gale.com urls that drop the reader at a login page without a clue to what lies behind that page. At least with the doi, the reader knows what is there.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:07, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Beautiful, thanks - I'll add that when I'm back at my laptop, too fiddly on a phone. Much appreciated. Girth Summit _(blether) 14:21, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

symbol misuse

I just came across a page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_cancer) that contains multiple external link symbols. This symbol is required to take the reader to a new window (or tab) when clicked. On the referenced page, this symbol overlays the current contents with the new contents. This is wrong. Gggustafson (talk) 14:01, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Gggustafson. I don't see any external links except in the references, where they appropriate. The couple of those that I have picked on have opened in a new tab as expected. Can you give an example of one that doesn't? Perhaps it's your browser - what browser and system are you reading it on? ColinFine (talk) 14:21, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

@Gggustafson: External links are not required to do that and the default is to not do it. It's only supposed to happen if you enable "Open external links in a new tab or window" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets, or if you have a browser setting to do it. The gadget uses a script to override the default. If the script doesn't load or run in your browser for some reason then you get the default behaviour of staying in the same tab. If you have enabled the gadget then try to bypass your cache on the article with Ctrl+F5 (not F5 alone) in Windows browsers. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:36, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Information about the Tactical Ground Intercept Facility, built late 1970-80s

Having extensively worked on this system, I was interested to see if you had any information on it. What I saw was mostly boiler plate. If you are interested in a more complete description of TGIF's creation, testing, and support, please send me a brief note. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.111.131.66 (talk) 16:01, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much for offering to help. Unfortunately, would constitute "original research" (WP:OR) and that's not how Wikipedia works, because we do not have any mechanism for reviewing its veracity or quality. Instead, we summarize information found in "reliable sources". If you can find such inforation, you can help us a lot. Just add a note to the talk page of the article with pointers to the info or come back here, and we can figure out how to add it. -Arch dude (talk) 16:14, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Save draft without publishing

Good day, Sorry I would like to ask some few questions on how to use the Wikipedia. What is the best way to save a drafted article that is not ready to be published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellamediate (talk • contribs) 16:22, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

See the above section #Save without publishing ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:28, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Archived.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:31, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. My response is moot now since the user is blocked for being a promotion only account― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:35, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

It might still help someone.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 23:01, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

hello . my page was there for years and got deleted. what do i do? "laptopmd" is my page

hello . my page was there for years and got deleted. what do i do? "laptopmd" is my page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurlmd (talk • contribs) 16:52, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

@Arthurlmd: It was deleted as an advertisement per the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/LaptopMD RudolfRed (talk) 16:54, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

thank you for replying.. it was informational article.. but what can i change on the article so i get back on wiki. we are real company with real people, and real nationwide press — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurlmd (talk • contribs) 16:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

@Arthurlmd: Hi, I left a message for you on your talk page at User talk:Arthurlmd. I might be able to help you (even write an article) if you can provide multiple sources which meet Wikipedia quality criteria. First and foremost, are you an employee of the company? If so, there are a few things you need to know before you resume editing. Anton.bersh (talk) 17:23, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Arthurlmd. I'm afraid that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding about what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia has nothing whatever to do with anybody telling people about their own company. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If some independent writing about your company has been published, then somebody could write an article based on that: preferably not you, but you're permitted to try. But if such an article is ever accepted into Wikipedia, it will not belong to you, it will not be controlled by you, it will not be for your benefit except incidentally, it will not necessarily say what you want it to say, and it should be almost 100% based on what those independent sources say about your company, not on what you say or want to say. ColinFine (talk) 17:51, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

@Arthurlmd: Not to pile on, but that was not "your page", as ColinFine mentioned -- instead, it was a Wikipedia article about a company. (You might be affiliated with that company.) 73.127.147.187 (talk) 06:58, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks from watchlist

Is there any gadget or script that enables the use of the 'thank' feature from the watchlist? Firefangledfeathers 22:30, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't know if there is one that will do it directly from the watchlist but if I want to thank a user for an edit I see there, I click on "diff" and then you can thank them from the next page that comes up. I will be curious to know if there is an easier way. Jessamyn (talk) 01:24, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Need Someone to edit information on Family Background

Hi, Can someone remove Josh Funk from Jake Funk’s family background? He is a Half-Brother big difference in every aspect.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by AFunk7 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Why? We have two sources, one of them the Baltimore Sun, that say he's a brother. Even if he's only a half-brother, he's still part of the family and helped him rehab. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:51, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

@AFunk7: Hi there! Discussions about the content of an article (e.g. Jake Funk) should happen on the article's talk page (e.g. Talk:Jake Funk). Based on your user name, please be sure to disclose if you have any conflict of interest. Thanks, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:48, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

To be honest I am not sure how to comment or edit on the talk page. I would in the interim mention a half-brother at the end. Plus, we have current intel that might impact the dynamics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.234.47 (talk) 21:44, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

@AFunk7: You comment and edit on the talk page the same way you do here: Click "New section" (for a new topic) or "Edit source" (to reply to an existing section), type your information, and click "Publish changes". (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 02:32, 24 February 2022 (UTC)