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Faye Wong discography[edit]

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This is the discography of Faye Wong. I don't want either the FA or GA status, unless the article appears to meet the qualifications of GA rather than the FA. I want honesty about this article from anyone who joins this discussion. I have created this article on the sole purpose of separating the content away from Faye Wong article. I have created more content, such as covers that this singer performed, but I must give credit to other contributors who put their hearts on this. There should be sources of the third-party and the independent rather than less reliable. I and others will do our best to improve this article after this peer review.

Thanks, Gh87 (talk) 16:43, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Michael Jester Good work on the article so far. Just a note, lists like this can't be GAs or FA; they're only qualified for WP:FLs. With that being said, here's my review:

Toolbox

There are two disambiguation links[1]
Two dead links[2] Possibly all done, but I don't know who did these: you or I? --Gh87 (talk) 02:44, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did not do it. It probably happened when you removed the ELs / notes. Michael Jester (talk) 02:48, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Have you considered using {{Infobox artist discography}}?
I did this. Michael Jester (talk) 01:10, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
An image in the lead would be nice. Her main page has File:Faye 2011 Hong Kong cropped.jpg, which is a good picture of her.
I added the image. Michael Jester (talk) 01:10, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The lead should have some background information about Faye Wong and how many of each album, single, etc has. Here is a list of all the FL discographies. You can use them as an example.
It should explain her music career. Discuss her albums. We need some information about them in the lead.

Albums/EPs

This section should just be called "Albums"
When discussing EPs don't use past tense. Example: "This was an EP, the first instalment of her final recordings with Cinepoly." Does this mean it was an EP, and now it's not? Changed verb tense to present participles, such as has been --Gh87 (talk) 19:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What are "Teenage albums" and "Main discography"? I also see you have EPs listed with the albums. WP:DISCOGSTYLE says we should break up recording by type (i.e. Live albums, studio albums, EPs, soundtracks etc.)
Has any album charted in any country? If so, consider re-doing the table. The sample section as WP:DISCOG has a good example. Even if an album hasnt charted, most discographies still use the example. I know you have a column for English and Chinese titles, but you could just combine the both. Example using sample (I'm only doing the first 5:
List of albums
Title Album details
Shirley Wong (王靖雯)
  • Released: 1989.11
  • Debut album with Cinepoly
Everything
  • Released: 1990.06
You're the Only One
  • Released: 1990.12
Coming Home
  • Released: 1992.08.13
  • Contains first all-English track
No Regrets (執迷不悔)
  • Released: 1993.02.05
  • First album with Mandarin track

All done! --Gh87 (talk) 03:00, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Compilations

I'm assuming these are compilation albums. If so, then they need to go under the albums section.
This section goes in reverse chronological order; however, the albums section is in chronological order. Pick one and be consistent. One has to change. The most common is chronological.
It's best not to do subsections by record label. This could be added in the notes column. All  Done --Gh87 (talk) 18:55, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Songs only found in other albums

No offense, but what makes any of these songs notable? In order to establish notability, you need a [significant] coverage from a [third-party] source.
Dashes are wrong, per MOS:DASH.

Theme songs

Once again, what makes these songs notable? Remember, a discography is a list of notable releases.

Cover songs

Once again, delete this section unless the songs are notable.

Notes

I would create a section titled "Notes" and just put all the notes there. ALL DELETED!! --Gh87 (talk) 19:25, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

External references

An article either has a reference section or an external links section, not a combination of the two. All references are technically external.
Is the first her official website? Kinda looks like it. If it is, use {{Official website}}. Nope, it is the fansite dedicate to the singer. --Gh87 (talk) 19:20, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. Well in that case, it is not an RS. Michael Jester (talk) 03:53, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone could have made a Geocities website. What makes this a RS?
How are the lyrics encyclopedic toward the article? Plus, it's from a Geocities website so it's not an RS.
What makes the 4th reference an RS?
5th reference just looks like lyrics. If that's the case, then this shouldnt have to be here; it doesn't add any encyclopedic value to the article.
6th reference: IMBd is not an RS, fansites are not an RS, and what makes ent.163.com an RS? ALL removed! --Gh87 (talk) 18:59, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Last general stuff

add {{contains Chinese text}} YesY Done --Gh87 (talk) 19:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Has Faye Wong released any singles? If so, create a section for them.
This article needs a lot of references. Any claim, stat, etc. needs a source. For example: the sentence "A favourite for many fans, this artistic album includes several tracks of scat singing. Her last studio album with Cinepoly". How do we know it was a favorite for many fans? How do we know its an artistic album? How do we know its her last studio album with Cinepoly? BTW, the phrase "artistic album" seems a little bit like OR. Removed that from page. --Gh87 (talk) 04:35, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It should be assessed as a List-class article. ...Maybe later; there are too many banners in the talk page. --Gh87 (talk) 04:35, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There were only three banners. Plus only one needed changing. Oh well, I did it anyway for you. Michael Jester (talk) 06:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good work on the article so far, but it still needs a lot of work. You may strke-thru my comments if you have properly addressed them. Once most of these are addressed, I might go back and do a second review.
Michael Jester (talk) 18:27, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

More comments—
  • Around now, I would start adding references/sources. Since there are no sources, how do we even know these albums exist?
  • After reading her article, I found out that some of her albums have charted. This needs to be added.
  • I also saw sales figures, too. This should be added.
    Michael Jester (talk) 21:33, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]