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I've listed this article for peer review because I have significantly expanded it over the last month or so, mainly using a book commemorating the stadium's 100th birthday as reference material. I have also added some online references for some issues.

Thanks, Jmorrison230582 (talk) 19:03, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Oldelpaso

As a national stadium, this has a few different aspects to the usual stadium articles. What level are you trying to get it to?

  • I'm not sure to be honest. GA at least. FA may be difficult given the extensive history of the ground, most of which can't be sourced online. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 21:47, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • If available, an image of the stadium during a cup final or Scotland match would be useful. While perhaps harder to find, a picture taken during a Queen's Park match with a couple of hundred people rattling around in an enormous stadium could provide an interesting contrast.
    • I have added a free image of a Scotland match. There are pictures in the book I have of QPFC matches at Hampden but those are copyrighted and wouldn't qualify for fair use. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 11:22, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is little in the way of architectural detail. Presumably building what was then the biggest stadium in the world was quite a feat of engineering.
    • Added a bit about this from the book. Apparently it was a noted architect who designed the original third Hampden (if that isn't an oxymoron). Jmorrison230582 (talk) 14:48, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • While Scottish Cup finals are mentioned in various places, there's nothing in the body stating that apart from during redevelopment, Hampden has been the venue for the cup final since the 1920s.
  • Related to that, everything mentioned in the lead should also be mentioned in the body.
  • The "other uses" section could do with being grouped into sporting and non-sporting sections to prevent all the stubby sub-headings.
    • Done, although I think the headings I have come up with are a bit clunky. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 11:38, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Anachronistic as it may sound, it would probably be better to put the sentences about the Olympics and Commonwealth Games at the end of the history section instead of in their own "Future" section.

More to follow. Oldelpaso (talk) 10:10, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some more:

  • The Hampden Roar originated... presumably the noise had happened before, but this was the incident that caused the term to be coined. Its not particularly clear.
    • I think the language is clearer now. Undoubtedly there must have been "roars" before that match, but the book says something florid like "it first came to the world's attention" after the game mentioned, which was quite dramatic. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 22:06, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The sentence about the museum is a bit lost on its own. What facilities does modern-day Hampden have? Is there anything that could be added to make a fuller section?
  • Finally, the Inglis test – no article on a British stadium can truly be considered comprehensive unless it cites a book by Inglis. If you want me to email some material from the relevant pages of The Football Grounds of Great Britain, pop a note on my talk page. Oldelpaso (talk) 17:53, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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