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Stocksbridge Park Steels F.C.[edit]

Please let me know if there are any improvements you think need to be made before this article is ready to go up for FA status.....

Many thanks, ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I've made a couple of minor alterations and don't have much more to add. It's a very good, concise, well-referenced, thorough read. My minor points however are as follows.

  • The wikilink to promotion and relegation is for the first time relegation is mentioned, but there is a previous mention of promotion. Is there any reason the promotion word wasn't wikilinked instead?
    •  Done - wikilinked the first use or "promotion". Failure to do so was just a cock-up on my part :-)
  • Mick Horne tendered his resignation after eleven years in charge. Should it be eleven or 11 - see WP:MOSNUM?
    •  Done
  • Is there a reference for The Steels have always played their games at what was originally called the Bracken Moor Stadium, the former home of Stocksbridge Works.?
    •  Done - ref added to the Non-League Club Directory, which has no info in the "previous grounds" section therefore they have always played at the one ground (I presume the "always played there" was the part you felt needed referencing.....?
  • How about alternating the alignment from left to right of the images to avoid some of the white space?
    •  Done
  • The Steels' record defeat was a 2–7 loss to Witton Albion in the 2001–02 season. I prefer 7-2 rather than 2-7, even if it a defeat since it does qualify the score with the word loss.
    •  Done
  • I've removed comparatively from Having only been in existence since 1986, the club has had comparatively few managers. since comparatively would imply there is something to compare it to. I know what you mean by including the word so feel free to add it back in again.
    • Not a big deal, really, I'm happy to leave it out
  • I'm never a big fan of lists of officials, particularly in this list - commercial manager, stadium manager and programme editor. It seems unnecessary information to me especially as they don't have their own entries in this case.
    • I've taken out the three you highlighted and rolled the rest into one list, hope this is OK

I think that's it. Peanut4 (talk) 02:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Probably worth explaining that Stocksbridge Works F.C. were the works team of the then-British Steel plant, that way the "Steels" part of the name is explained.
    •  Done
  • Stocksbridge Works F.C. and Oxley Park F.C. are both redlinks. Two approaches could be used - either including a summary of their histories in this article, or creating articles for both (assuming they played at a high enough level).
    • The Works team played in the NCEL, so they'd qualify for an article. I can find no record of what league Oxley Park played in, but as The Football Club History Database doesn't list them then it must have been a pretty lowly one. Given that, what do you think's the best way to proceed.........?
      • I've just double-checked and found that the correct name of the club was actually Oxley Park Sports F.C., and googling that name produces just four results, all of which refer to the club only in the context of having been one of the clubs that formed SPSFC - no other info appears to be available.....
        • I've gone ahead and created Stocksbridge Works F.C., the other club will just have to remain as a black link on the grounds of lack of available information......
  • I am another who is never a big fan of lists of officials, as such data can quickly become out of date. I recommend keeping it to an absolute minimum. For pro clubs I usually recommend only including those notable enough for their own article, in this case I would keep it to the most important positions only, perhaps even removing the list completely on the grounds that both manager and chairman are already included in the infobox.
    • I don't mind keeping an eye on the sources and keeping the info up-to-date. Given that existing FAs on non-league clubs Margate and Leek Town have this info in, someone might query at FAC why this one didn't....

Hope this helps. Oldelpaso (talk) 10:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One more point following a recent edit.

  • The following season Stocksbridge again finished in sixth place, although on this occasion this was not sufficient to qualify for the play-offs I think this line needs claryfying. Does this mean they didn't finish high enough to qualify for the play-offs? It sounds an stupid question but given the way promotion and relegation changes in non-league football I feel it needs a slight re-write.

Otherwise very good work Peanut4 (talk) 12:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Done although I'm not sure I'm mad on the wording..... ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I knew there would be a technical reason behind this!! I've made a slight alteration to the text. Feel free to make any alterations back if you feel it right. Peanut4 (talk) 12:35, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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