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September 10[edit]

Help identifying a tune[edit]

Well, it's more like a snippet. The beginning, I think. Been bothering me for a few weeks. Usually I eventually figure out where I've heard something that pops into my inner ear out of nowhere, but not this one. I must have heard it played on a shawm-type instrument, and it definitely sounded medieval, which makes me think I might have heard it in a movie, which makes me think it might not actually be from the middle ages. Anyway, here it is:

$\relative c'' { \key b \minor \time 2/4 a8 a8 b8 d8 | d4 cis8 d8 | e8 d16 cis16 b4 | a8 a8 b8 d8 | d4 cis8 d8 | e8 d16 cis16 b4 }$

Thanks in advance! ---Sluzzelin talk 08:39, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have an audio recording of it? For me personally, it would be easier to ID that way. 2601:646:8E01:7E0B:F88D:DE34:7772:8E5B (talk) 21:58, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest you try Musipedia.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 05:45, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I tried searching for the Parsons code (*RUURDUUDDDDRUURDUUDDD) at http://www.musipedia.org/melodic_contour.html, but without success.

—Wavelength (talk) 05:53, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Shantavira & Wavelength. I had tried Musipedia, with the keyboard function, using the exact same notes I posted, but no success either. 2601:646..., I have no audio recording, sorry, I tried to link to my Musipedia search, where you can play the melody too, but somehow Wikipedia couldn't read my link (it got cut off at some weird place before an apostrophe, even though the link contained no space). The link is "http://www.musipedia.org/result.html?sourceid=melody-url&tx_mpsearch_pi1%5bsubmit_button%5d=Search&tx_mpsearch_pi1%5bpc%5d=lilya'8+a'8+b'8+d''8+d''4+cis''8+d''8+e''8+d''16+cis''16+b'4+a'8+a'8+b'8+d''8+d''4+cis''8+d''8+e''8+d''16+cis''16+b'4+&filtertext=&coll=m&onlymatchfrom=0.3". Maybe try copy/pasting it, then click on the little speaker icon to the right of the line starting with "Your search query". ---Sluzzelin talk 08:39, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know why you can't get that to link, it works for me. SpinningSpark 17:24, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds kind of similar to the French folk tune "Bransle des pois", if you ask me. So if I'm right, then it would in fact be (late) medieval. 2601:646:8E01:7E0B:F88D:DE34:7772:8E5B (talk) 00:52, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that! Though I haven't found it yet, I listened to several bransles now ... one of the des lavandières is the closest, so far. Thanks again! (and thank you, Spinningspark, for providing the link. No idea what went wrong with my attempt). ---Sluzzelin talk 20:29, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OP here. By weird association, from watching an unrelated program on BBC, it came to me, and I have verified it. It is repeatedly used in Simon Schama's A History of Britain. So it was most likely, almost certainly, written by John Harle. I couldn't find it listed among the tunes featured on the series' (rare, and hardly available) score album. Thank you, everyone. I'm sure this thread had something to do with retrieving it, and besides, I listened to music I had never listened to before! ---Sluzzelin talk 23:20, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

National Football League schedules[edit]

National Football League#Regular season says NFL games are rarely scheduled for Tuesday or Wednesday. Why? The existence of Thursday games demonstrates that middle-of-the-week games aren't necessarily a bad idea financially. I can't think of another reason why they'd not have Tuesday games, especially for teams that are scheduled to have a bye in the next week and thus wouldn't be badly affected by playing on a different day. Nyttend (talk) 16:32, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There's no obvious reason not to except custom or tradition. The NFL used to be pretty much "always on Sunday" except for the Turkey Day game(s). Monday Night Football began soon after the NFL-AFL merger. Thursday night games are a relatively recent phenomenon. Fridays and Saturdays are typically for high school and college, respectively, until they stop playing. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:49, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Midweek games are highly unpopular among players and coaches, even the recently instituted Thursday Night Game, which is liked by no one except the TV network that gets to air it. Read, for example here. Players often feel the don't get enough rest on a Thursday Night game. --Jayron 32 20:44, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm surprised by what I read. I just assumed that these games would be played in concert with a bye week: a team might play on 4 September, have their bye on 11 September, play on 15 September instead of the normal 18 September for that week, and then play their next game on 25 September. Nyttend (talk) 04:13, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That would short-change their bye week. Given Jayron's point, I doubt they would stand for that. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 08:51, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What hasn't been mentioned is that a Tuesday game for teams that played on Sunday would leave approximately 48 hours between games. That is not enough time to physically recover nor does it leave enough time to install a game plan. The travel for the away team (especially if it is a west coast to east) would be a nightmare. MarnetteD|Talk 20:32, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

They wouldn't have a Tuesday game following a Sunday game. They would have a Tuesday instead of the previous Sunday game. But that would leave them only four days to get ready for the next Sunday game, which is not good either. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:52, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Baseball Bugs. I wasn't saying what the NFL would do. I was using N's criteria which only mentioned having the bye week after the Tuesday game to point out some of the pitfalls. Hopefully, the players will never have to face anything other than the current schedule but if they did it would make your scenario would make far more sense. MarnetteD|Talk 23:28, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of when the bye week is, a game played on a given weekday is a replacement for a game that would have been on the nearest Sunday, not in addition to. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:44, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]