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White jerseys at home and non-white jerseys at road NBA MLB[edit]

Why in MLB and NBA, teams wear white uniforms at home while they wear non-white uniforms on the road? What is the purpose of that? In NFL, CFL and NHL, they wear non-white jerseys at home and they wear white jerseys at road. Donmust90 (talk) 01:18, 6 September 2016 (UTC)Donmust90Donmust90 (talk) 01:18, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

White at home and gray on the road was a long-established tradition in baseball, at least. The idea was that they might not be able to do laundry as frequently while on the road, and the gray would conceal dirt better than white would. In the NHL, there was a stretch of time when they wore white at home, but they switched back to their older tradition of wearing more of their team colors at home. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:38, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It should be noted that teams in many of the sports mentioned now have three or four uniforms - and that isn't counting the NBA ones with sleeves or the retro unis that show up for special occasions. This, in part, is to drive sales of replica jerseys to the fans. MarnetteD|Talk 03:10, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It should be noted that one exception to the NFL's home color/away white is the Dallas Cowboys who traditionally wear white at home. Since every other team wears colors at home, that means the Cowboys rarely wear their blue uniforms. Their divisional rivals, especially the Washington Redskins, will wear white at home when playing the Cowboys just to make them wear their blues. The first time they ever wore their regula blue at home was in 2013: [1]. They do have a special "third jersey" they traditionally wear for their Thanksgiving Day games which has blue with white shoulders. There was some controversy at Super Bowl V when the Cowboys were forced to wear their blue jerseys. --Jayron32 15:33, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Implicit in your information is that it is normally the home team which decides what colors it will wear, and then the road team has to go with something that will contrast sufficiently to avoid confusion on the field. Traditionally, home uniforms have borne the team logo while road uniforms would have the name of the city they represent. For example, "Cubs" vs. "Chicago". But that is no longer a hard-and-fast rule. The 1975 World Series was interesting, in that both teams wore red caps, red socks, and red trim on their uniforms. The white vs. gray was the most obvious way to tell them apart. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:38, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Red Sox had blue brims on their hats as well as blue trim on their white stirup socks. [2] The Reds had no blue accents. [3] --Jayron32 01:40, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Another notable uniform quirk is the UCLA–USC rivalry, for most of their history, especially when both schools shared a common home field, when they played each other, BOTH teams wore their home colors. It was a rare instance when neither team wore white. The NFL tried last year on a few Thursday Night games, with both teams wearing monochromatic home colors, as part of a Nike-sponsored thing called "Color Rush". [4]. There have also been a few times when the Saints got to count their gold "third" Jersey as a "white", because of it's pale color and high contrast, see for example here from 2000. --Jayron32 01:47, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The mention of "Color Rush" above touches on the advantage of white vs color on television. In the early days of televised sports, televisions were black and white (more like gray and gray). Depending on the location, many people in modern times still use a black and white television.[5] One team needed to have a dark uniform and the other a light uniform to tell the teams apart. The home team gets to pick the uniform.[6] Overheating on a sunny field is an issue, so the home team generally chose to wear white, reflecting as much of the sunlight as possible. (For those who think that overheating ans sweating profusely was not an issue, read about the origins of the popularity of Gatorade in the NFL.[7]) When televisions went to color, the picture was still fuzzy. So, it was easier to tell dark fuzzy guys from light fuzzy guys. Now, producers believe that everything is in color and high definition. So, the NFL tried to do "Color Rush" by having both teams wear their team colors. The result wasn't anything outstanding and had a side problem. Color blind people saw gray vs gray and couldn't figure out which team was which.[8] 209.149.113.4 (talk) 12:33, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Full Coverage of Olympic Events[edit]

Presumably, the Olympics, (Summer or Winter, is heavily recorded.

So are official tapings of entire events made available or is it on a "need-to-know" basis?

Thanks. (edit, wasn't logged in.) PiousCorn (talk) 03:39, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

They keep it under tight control because they want you to buy the footage. You will be able to buy DVDs and BluRays of the Rio games later this year but they will be edited highlights, not the entire event. --Viennese Waltz 08:21, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For London 2012 almost everything was live streamed on the Olympics YouTube channel and they are still up. It is possible to watch every single of second of the athletics program for example. Not sure about Rio 2016 though. - Yellow Dingo (talk) 08:37, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Identifying a jazz(?) song from a Youtube video[edit]

Does anyone know by chance what song is playing in the background here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7PJVcL1enM&t=32m31s right during the last sketch before the Years & Years act? I used to hear it a lot a long time ago, but I never found out its name. 78.0.251.35 (talk) 20:10, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is it this? -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 20:40, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
... if so, it was the theme for Pick of the Pops, of which that skit is a parody. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 20:42, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
... and we even have a stub on that theme song: At the Sign of the Swingin' Cymbal. ---Sluzzelin talk 20:44, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, I think that's it, thanks guys! I thought it would be older, though... 78.0.251.35 (talk) 20:52, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
None of the articles we've given actually says when it was written. We know it dates from at best 1961 (so it's already 55 years old), but it doesn't seem to have been written especially for the program, so it may be some time older than that. I don't know much about that period of music, but to me it sounds like later big band music rather than jazz (and there's something of a continuum between the two) so it may not have sounded especially cutting edge even in 1961. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 21:01, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Following through the song's stub to the article on its composer, Brian Fahey, reveals that in this era, a significant part of his work was indeed writing/arranging theme tunes for radio programmes, so absent evidence to the contrary, it seems likely that it was written for Pick of the Pops. Remember that in 1961, the Popular Charts were not so youth oriented, so such a programme had to appeal to older listeners as well and therefore could not afford to be too "cutting edge". {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.202.211.191 (talk) 16:24, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pinch-back suits in The Music Man (1962)[edit]

In the song "Ya Got Trouble", Harold Hill speaks disparagingly of those who wear pinch-back suits. But as best I can tell, he also appears to be wearing one. Was this intended to be ironic (to show Hill's chutzpah and/or the gullibility of the townsfolk), was it merely a production goof, or was he not technically wearing a pinch-back suit? --Lazar Taxon (talk) 21:54, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This may be useful. --Jayron32 01:36, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]