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Why is there enough of a market for the other Barcelona or Madrid La Liga team?[edit]
Real and Barcelona are so popular they have many fans in weird places like Thailand and usually dominate Spanish football, why would enough Barcelonans want to watch Espanyol on TV or pay to see them play? (unless it's against Barcelona or Real Madrid) At least teams like Bilbao can count on their metro area buying their tickets. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:51, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- Both Madrid and Barcelona are very large city. It's the rule rather than the exception that large European cities will have more than one top-level football team. --Xuxl (talk) 22:42, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- It's a rare year, for example, when there aren't at least 4-5 London teams in the English Premier League. I'm pretty sure there's been at least 10 throughout history, if not more. Large European cities an support many football teams. --Jayron32 00:46, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yes just because one team is far more popular internationally doesn't mean another local team doesn't have it's fair share of local supporters. Consider Manchester City F.C. supporters#Demographics [1] for example. Ultimately local preferences, sporting interest etc are going be reflected in how many local sports teams, even of the same sport, are viable. This isn't unique to association football, consider for example how many Sydney sides there are in the National Rugby League in Australia (our article seems to do a decent job discussing the history there). Meanwhile, consider how many Melbourne teams there are in the Australian Football League, many even using the same stadium. In those cases, there isn't that much international interest other than some in NZ, but while international support can be a big factor in funding for some teams and sports, it's not always required. Nil Einne (talk) 09:08, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- So far the teams mentioned play in the top tier leagues. Several of these cities also have teams in other divisions. Jayron32's post brings up a bit of trivia that I've wondered about - is London the only European capital city that doesn't have a team with the cities name as part of its team name? MarnetteD|Talk 14:29, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- There is no team called Dublin, or Edinburgh, or Brussels, or Amsterdam, or Berlin, or Oslo, or Stockholm, or Bern (at least, not in the top division of their respective league, which is what I can easily check). There is, in fact, a football club called Forest City London - but it is in London, Ontario. Wymspen (talk) 18:19, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- Just a correction, AFC Ajax has the name of Amsterdam in the name of the club (the "A" in the AFC is "Amsterdamsche"). Likewise, in Hertha BSC, The "B" is from Berlin (Berliner to be precise). --Jayron32 18:32, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- There are no Rio teams of any import with Rio or Janeiro in their names. Mexico City might have no top league teams named after the city, unless Universidad Nacional something de Mexico (UNAM) refers to the city instead of the nation. The world's largest city has FC Tokyo. There is a New York FC now. There's probably at least 5 London teams that could kick their ass. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 19:23, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- There is no team called Dublin, or Edinburgh, or Brussels, or Amsterdam, or Berlin, or Oslo, or Stockholm, or Bern (at least, not in the top division of their respective league, which is what I can easily check). There is, in fact, a football club called Forest City London - but it is in London, Ontario. Wymspen (talk) 18:19, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- So far the teams mentioned play in the top tier leagues. Several of these cities also have teams in other divisions. Jayron32's post brings up a bit of trivia that I've wondered about - is London the only European capital city that doesn't have a team with the cities name as part of its team name? MarnetteD|Talk 14:29, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yes just because one team is far more popular internationally doesn't mean another local team doesn't have it's fair share of local supporters. Consider Manchester City F.C. supporters#Demographics [1] for example. Ultimately local preferences, sporting interest etc are going be reflected in how many local sports teams, even of the same sport, are viable. This isn't unique to association football, consider for example how many Sydney sides there are in the National Rugby League in Australia (our article seems to do a decent job discussing the history there). Meanwhile, consider how many Melbourne teams there are in the Australian Football League, many even using the same stadium. In those cases, there isn't that much international interest other than some in NZ, but while international support can be a big factor in funding for some teams and sports, it's not always required. Nil Einne (talk) 09:08, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- It's a rare year, for example, when there aren't at least 4-5 London teams in the English Premier League. I'm pretty sure there's been at least 10 throughout history, if not more. Large European cities an support many football teams. --Jayron32 00:46, 21 May 2017 (UTC)