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Britain's Got Talent...ed green screen effects?[edit]
A friend sent me the following YouTube link to a peformance on Britain's Got Talent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdab5DOo4-o
I would like to figure out the name of the performer but I cannot read Arabic. Does anyone have a name?
It looks to me like an obvious green screen effect. At 5:43 it is obvious that the feet are not standing on the stage. At 11:34 you can see the background bleeding into the ball. Throughout, the supposedly shiny floor has no reflections or shadows from the performers. Yet it is all edited to appear as if a live audience and some judges are seeing a live performance on an actual stage.
I normally don't watch this sort of show. Are they all this fake? Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 07:36, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Firstly, this is America's Got Talent (at least in part). Secondly, it's more than one performance, edited together. Thirdly, it obviously didn't look like that when it was originally broadcast. Someone, presumably whoever uploaded the video to YouTube, has added that background for reasons best known to themselves. --Viennese Waltz 07:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- I can buy editing together clips by some YouTube user (which is why I want to find some clue that would help me find the source) but I don't buy the theory that some YouTube user added that background. Look at the background between the performer and the edge of the table between 4:37 and 4:45. Those clitches are exactly what you see from bad green screen, and it would be very hard (and pointless) for a YouTube user using editing software to add those specific kind of artifacts after the fact. Again, if we can figure out when this aired or the stage name of the magician we can start looking at official videos from AGT and BGT instead of this. --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 14:41, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- So, It's not an AGT performance starting at about 4:37-4:45. It's some amateur who has used a green-screen behind himself and filmed himself with the AGT stage behind him. This kind of set-up is readily available and not expensive. --Jayron32 14:56, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- That seems to explain everything. I went back and watched it again, and compared some real AGT and BGT clips. The real ones often show a wide shot with the backs of the audience, the judges and the performer on the stage. Or the host in the wings reacting with the performer in the background. In this video you never see the performer in the same shot as the judges or the host. So of course I couldn't find that performace in any official clip. Yup. He snookered me. I didn't even consider the possibility of it not being a GT performance at all. Thanks! --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 22:40, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- There's also the big notice at the end saying it didn't happen :) If you want the real performers for most of it, you can probably find them in this recording. For example at 4:30 in your copy and 27:54 respectively. -- zzuuzz (talk) 23:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- The YouTube account that uploaded this fake performance has uploaded many more, some even much more obviously fake.[1] Some are on Facebook, like this one. --Lambiam 01:32, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- That seems to explain everything. I went back and watched it again, and compared some real AGT and BGT clips. The real ones often show a wide shot with the backs of the audience, the judges and the performer on the stage. Or the host in the wings reacting with the performer in the background. In this video you never see the performer in the same shot as the judges or the host. So of course I couldn't find that performace in any official clip. Yup. He snookered me. I didn't even consider the possibility of it not being a GT performance at all. Thanks! --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 22:40, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- So, It's not an AGT performance starting at about 4:37-4:45. It's some amateur who has used a green-screen behind himself and filmed himself with the AGT stage behind him. This kind of set-up is readily available and not expensive. --Jayron32 14:56, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- I can buy editing together clips by some YouTube user (which is why I want to find some clue that would help me find the source) but I don't buy the theory that some YouTube user added that background. Look at the background between the performer and the edge of the table between 4:37 and 4:45. Those clitches are exactly what you see from bad green screen, and it would be very hard (and pointless) for a YouTube user using editing software to add those specific kind of artifacts after the fact. Again, if we can figure out when this aired or the stage name of the magician we can start looking at official videos from AGT and BGT instead of this. --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 14:41, 30 January 2023 (UTC)