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August 13[edit]

Pilgrimage to Jerusalem[edit]

Did any European monarchs in the intervening years between the end of the Crusades and the modern era (1800s or 1900s depending on when Jerusalem became more accessible) took pilgrimages to Jerusalem or the Holy Land during this period?--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 11:02, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Emperor Frederick III was there in 1869 when he was still Crown Prince of Prussia, and his son Emperor Wilhelm II went in 1898 (there is a lengthy article about it on the German Wikipedia, de:Palästinareise Kaiser Wilhelms II.. Before them, the last monarch must have been Edward I of England in the 1270s (before he was king, though). --Adam Bishop (talk) 12:37, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, Henry of Bolingbroke visited Jerusalem in 1392, but this was before he ascended the throne as Henry IV of England. Marco polo (talk) 14:15, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cool! Adam Bishop (talk) 00:32, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

demons in taiko[edit]

following a hint of a seasoned wikipedian I'm trying this to find at the "reference desk" infos about the topic here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Taiko#meaning_of_the_demons_in_taiko.3F.3F thanks in advance! --HilmarHansWerner (talk) 17:07, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Were American women allowed to bear arms?[edit]

Yesterday my teacher told me that American women were initially forbidden from bearing arms (until the 1960s). Is this true? --66.190.99.112 (talk) 21:58, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Annie Oakley wrote a letter to the president, offering to fight the Spanish, before the war even started. She didn't try to hide the fact that she'd trained a 50-woman sharpshooter militia, or that she wouldn't have to borrow any ammo. No arrests. This was well before the 1960s. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:15, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kaiser Wilhelm II was also fine about letting her shoot the ashes off his cigarette. I don't think the thesaurus has a word for that sort of coolness. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing in the second amendment restricting the bearing of arms, unless you take the "well-regulated militia" part to imply exclusively male. However, that would be a matter of state law. And as Hulk notes, Annie Oakley was obviously not feeling restricted (except maybe by her corset). ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:28, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could a no armed man help form a well-regulated militia if he could aim and fire only moderately well with his toes? I'll say yes, but that constitution definitely left a lot of room for interpretation. Definitely freer than under the 190 billion pages^{[citation needed]} of constitutional law they use today. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:53, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Funny. That might be a case of a headline writer not getting enough sleep. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:50, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's supposed to be like this. That's how they (or any other system for that matter) obtain legitimation. "The destruction of any sense of the past, and of the importance of the past, serves the ends of those people who believe that humanity, unsatisfactory as it is, requires remoulding by them, so that it will take better shape in the future. (...) HUmanity, then, should be regarded as a tabula rasa, the blank slate upon which Mao Tse-Tung said that such beautiful characters could be written. Insofar as any awareness of the past is to be permitted, it should be as a terrible prelude to the present..." (source, author) Asmrulz (talk) 15:58, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So is that a "yes" or a "no"? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

to be honest, no idea Asmrulz (talk) 16:04, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that accounts for why it didn't make sense. As to "political correctness", it's important to keep in mind that right-wingers have their own version of "political correctness". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:11, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And in Canada, a different sort of conservatives long used PC in a different way. Our Liberals are also a bit different, going in "the middle" rather than "the left". Not that it matters, at least in this thread. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:12, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

previous orators made the point that women weren't banned from bearing arms. And I didn't mention PC anywhere in this thread Asmrulz (talk) 16:30, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Right, it was here that you brought up that term. Be that as it may, you're talking in code. Plain English would be an improvement. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:26, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]