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Lithuanian migrant crisis[edit]
In the 2021 Lithuanian migrant crisis the only blame is on Belarus. However, as I understand, since most migrants are from Iraq traveling from south, there must be other countries involved that precede Belarus - like Turkey, and depending on migrants route, either Russia or Bulgaria, Romania, etc. Why those countries aren't mentioned? 212.180.235.46 (talk) 08:25, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- They were brought to Belarus by plane, and then transported to the Lithuanian border. “These are 3,000 people who were flown from a country very far away and were just left on the border of the E.U. and that’s an entirely new phenomenon,” said Camino Mortera-Martinez, a senior research fellow at the Centre for European Reform. “Flying people in is a complete other level of aggression and retaliation.”. There was no need to travel through another country. --Jayron32 12:24, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- EU pushes Iraq to stem migrant flights to Belarus - it seems the flights by Iraqi airlines are paid for by the migrants themselves, but are being encouraged and facilitated by Belarus. Alansplodge (talk) 17:42, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Regardless of how they got on the planes or who paid for them, though (there does seem to be some conflicting sources on that point), the OP's question of why no other countries are mentioned on the migrant's routes is that they were on direct flights from Iraq to Belarus without having to cross any land borders on the way. --Jayron32 19:30, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- EU pushes Iraq to stem migrant flights to Belarus - it seems the flights by Iraqi airlines are paid for by the migrants themselves, but are being encouraged and facilitated by Belarus. Alansplodge (talk) 17:42, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Church of Scotland (1615-1638)[edit]
why was there no Moderators of General Assembly of the Church of Scotland from 1615-1638? see List_of_Moderators_of_the_General_Assembly_of_the_Church_of_Scotland Gfigs (talk) 11:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- According to the list you linked to, the General Assembly did not meet in those years… so no Moderator. Blueboar (talk) 11:28, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- apologies..edited question Gfigs (talk) 11:41, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- This would be during the reigns of James I of England and Charles I of England. There may have been some attempts at unification with the Church of England, but I'm not sure. The General Assembly's resumptions of meetings seems to coincide with the Bishop's War, which can't be a coincidence. --Jayron32 12:18, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- apologies..edited question Gfigs (talk) 11:41, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- According to Five Articles of Perth, these reforms were reluctantly agreed by the General Assembly at Perth in 1618. The Church of Scotland at that time still had bishops, and it may be that James only summoned the assembly when he needed them, relying on the bishops to govern the church as was the practice in England. Why there was no Moderator at Perth, I cannot tell. Alansplodge (talk) 12:32, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- The list is somewhat confusingly laid out… but it looks like there was a Moderator at the 1618 Perth Assembly… John Spottiswood (Archbishop of St. Andrews). Blueboar (talk) 12:42, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Having the archbishop as moderator suggests that he was appointed by the king, rather than elected by the assembly. Alansplodge (talk) 17:30, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- The list is somewhat confusingly laid out… but it looks like there was a Moderator at the 1618 Perth Assembly… John Spottiswood (Archbishop of St. Andrews). Blueboar (talk) 12:42, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- yes I think so..six of Presbyterian ministers were banished, had to leave Scotland..20yrs seems awful long time?.Gfigs (talk) 13:31, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- According to Five Articles of Perth, these reforms were reluctantly agreed by the General Assembly at Perth in 1618. The Church of Scotland at that time still had bishops, and it may be that James only summoned the assembly when he needed them, relying on the bishops to govern the church as was the practice in England. Why there was no Moderator at Perth, I cannot tell. Alansplodge (talk) 12:32, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- He (James I) also on occasion addressed the general assembly and in 1606 established a measure of control over it. Melville was exiled and bishops were re-established, albeit with limited powers, as chairmen of synods rather than autonomous rulers of their dioceses. A series of Acts of Parliament reduced the independence of the general assembly, which now met only when summoned by the king…between 1618 and 1638 the assembly did not meet. See National Covenant for the rebellious circumstances in which it resumed meeting… 70.67.193.176 (talk) 16:09, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- they were being imprisoned for high treason..yes, Andrew_Melville was a key person..seems to be explained nicely here Andrew_Duncan_(minister) ..would it not be an idea to include a section of "History" with this explanation, in the General_Assembly_of_the_Church_of_Scotland .or in the List of Moderators article previously mentioned? Gfigs (talk) 21:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- see also General_Assembly_of_Aberdeen Gfigs (talk) 21:52, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- they were being imprisoned for high treason..yes, Andrew_Melville was a key person..seems to be explained nicely here Andrew_Duncan_(minister) ..would it not be an idea to include a section of "History" with this explanation, in the General_Assembly_of_the_Church_of_Scotland .or in the List of Moderators article previously mentioned? Gfigs (talk) 21:33, 9 August 2021 (UTC)