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June 27[edit]

John Money - pronounciation[edit]

Is there a new Zelander on board? How is the name of John Money pronounced? אילן שמעוני (talk) 10:42, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to this Horizon documentary (copyvio), it's prononced /ˈmʌn.i/ (as in cash money). Tevildo (talk) 11:01, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers, mate. אילן שמעוני (talk) 12:06, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ship's brig[edit]

I just learned that "brig", referring to the area on a ship where prisoners are kept, is considered an Americanism. What is it traditionally called in Britain? --Lazar Taxon (talk) 20:53, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A British seaman's or marine's service record can be marked "CELLS" which means that the subject has been "Confined to ships' cells". [1] A plan of HMS Queen Elizabeth published in the Daily Mail shows "32: RN police office and cells". [2] Alansplodge (talk) 22:14, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"The Naval Prisons Act of 1847, granted Commanding Officers the power of awarding a Summary Punishment by imprisonment, which could be "in any Place, Ship or Vessel, either afloat or on shore," appointed by the Admiralty for that purpose ; or in the absence of such facilities, in any public prison, which suggests that this may be the first official recognition of cells on board a ship." 19th Century Royal Navy. Alansplodge (talk) 22:31, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The disambiguation page for brig explains that the US Navy formerly used two-masted brigs as prison ships, and the term has come, in the US, to refer to any naval prison facility. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:36, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Whereas the Royal Navy used sailing brigs to train boy entrants in the basics of seamanship, until the first years of the 20th century. [3] Alansplodge (talk) 18:23, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]