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March 31

Henri de Schomberg

The article states de Schomberg died on April 17, 1632 yet he won the Battle of Castelnaudary on Sept. 1, 1632, this makes no sense, an expert on French history needs to resolve this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ElkeWylie (talk • contribs) 02:21, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

I see some ghits stating he died on November 17, and one that he died on September 17, but they don't look like reliable sources. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:42, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

His daughter Jeanne-Armande, born March 1633, is said to have been born posthumously [1], so that narrows things down a bit. Many reliable-looking sources give the year of death as 1632, but none mention the date. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 03:04, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

And here is a bibliography of articles that mention his death—all from 1633. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 03:06, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Silly me. The same source gives his date of death as 17 November, which I assume is derived from the sources cited there. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 03:07, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

A eulogy from 1633 does not give his date of death. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 03:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

This source, apparently reliable, gives the November date as a fact, and also cites in full a letter by someone named Louis (no surname—how odd!) that mentions, on the 22nd of November 1632, De Schomberg's recent death. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 03:18, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

This 19th century source cites this contemporary source (the Mercure françois), but the cited matter does not appear on that page. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 03:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

The 18th century index of the contemporary Gazette de France quotes their original article on De Schomberg's death, with 17 November 1632 as the date of death. (The passages attributed to the Mercure françois in the previous source appear verbatim here.) The original should appear here, though I have not succeeded in finding it yet. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 03:36, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

And here, at last, in the original Gazette de France 1632 article: 17 November 1632 ("one hour after noon") it is. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 03:49, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Questions about publishing a book

I am the author of The 6 Dimensions: Overcome Presenteeism Excel in work and life". You can see more in the attached. 1. I would like to publish a list of people with pictures of them taken from Google searches who are material to the book. How can i do this without having to request their permission? as i don't have access to their contact details. Some whose contact details i had did not respond to date. Others have given consent.

2. Can i write about people relevant to my topic without their consent with info available on social media and internet e.g. a guy with s unique name such as Kali Muscle?

I am based in Singapore, my publisher is Canadian and the book is destined for global circulation via hardcopy and Amazon etc.

I'd appreciate your quick response and guidance203.177.21.59 (talk) 21:54, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

'Pictures take from Google searches' are very likely to be copyright - and as any responsible publisher should tell you, you cannot (except in very specific circumstances which are unlikely to apply here) reproduce copyrighted material in a book. It isn't the person in the photo that needs to give permission, it is the copyright owner - and if you can't trace them, and get explicit permission to use the image, you can't use it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Writing about people without their consent is something that Wikipedia does a great deal of. But Wikipedia insists on reliable sources (which excludes most social media). If you include information from unreliable sources, it is more likely that some of it is false and possibly even defamatory. --ColinFine (talk) 22:47, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

It is the publisher that has to comply with copyright law. So, this is for your publisher to sort out. After all, why are you having them promote your work– and take their share of the profits... If you were self-publishing, then yes, you need to ask as you would be the publisher. Also, it is common in the publishing world, for publisher to take out insurance against copyright violations and libel etc. So put the ball-back-in-their-court and tell them to sort it out or take your mighty opus else where. --Aspro (talk) 23:26, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

CCH Canadian Ltd v. Law Society of Upper Canada [2004] 1 S.C.R. 339,2004 SCC 13 is the landmark Supreme Court of Canada case that establishes the bounds of fair dealing in Canadian copyright law. Your Canadian publisher should seek legal advice, which Wikipedia will not give, about whether Canadian law allows your planned use of pictures and personal information. Note that "fair dealing" is not necessarily as permissive as the related USA law on "Fair use" which typically permits specific uses of copyrighted material for commentary, search engines, criticism, parody, news reporting, research, teaching, library archiving and scholarship. For example, you cannot assume that Wikipedia's Non-free content policy arguments have merit for your own case. 84.209.89.214 (talk) 23:32, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

What is Presenteeism Excel, and why does your intended audience need to overcome it in work and life? —Tamfang (talk) 05:59, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

The OP's title here is missing a dash or semicolumn. I'm pretty sure from logic and supported by searches the book's title is intended to be "The 6 Dimensions: Overcome Presenteeism - Excel in work and life" or similar [2] [3]. If still confused, see Presenteeism. Nil Einne (talk) 16:43, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

And here I was thinking it was a spreadsheet program. :-) StuRat (talk) 17:37, 5 April 2014 (UTC)