Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland Collaboration/statementbyRTG1.2

Statement 1.2 by User RTG

Irish who fall under the red hand (Ulster) are less likely to claim they are Irish owing to the recent "Troubles" when many adopted saying that they do not want to be Irish. Do they get the red hand from Scotland, England, Wales or some other non-Irish state? Northern what? Ulster where? Is that place equally on Ireland yet not a part of a certain state? Very much so, yes.

Does the state cover the topic of Ireland? No. Not on its own. The topic of Ireland covers the state but not the other way around.

Does the state cherish its heritage as a republic? Yes. Its basic element is a republic, An Poblacht na hEireann. In ten years the state plans the biggest party it has ever known to celebrate the republics hundredth year, the states "birth".

Would it be appropriate to hide or obscure the element of republic in this state? No. Certainly not. Terror to thought. Those concerned with the state would hardly appreciate that. Some political leaders would go for that in a big way? Nonsense. Rubbish. Sorry. None of them would unless it had to do with uniting the rest of the place and I for one would go with that also. Of course the state is not Ireland. If it were to become the complete Irish state, it would change signifigantly, would not be the state that it is today.

Users who oppose this summary

1. MusicInTheHouse (talk) 15:25, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
2. --Domer48_'fenian' 15:40, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
3. --Snowded (talk) 12:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
4. Redking7 (talk) 09:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
5. 86.44.111.162 (talk) 18:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
6. RashersTierney (talk) 08:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
7. Ω ENGLISH LOCK Ω 13:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)