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Beograd-class destroyer[edit]

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The Beograd class were the only class of destroyers built for the Royal Yugoslav Navy, entering service just before WWII. One was scuttled during the April 1941 Axis invasion (this was even portrayed later in film), but the other two saw service with the Italians as war prize ships, doing escort duty to North Africa. One survived to see service with the Germans after the Italian capitulation before it was lost in the final weeks of the war. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:41, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Image is appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:46, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Nikkimaria! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:40, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments - not much from me.

  • The service field of the infobox should start in 1939, not 37.
    • Fixed.
  • I wonder what the relevance of pointing out the French name for the flotilla leader concept is.
    • Good point, dropped it.
  • Are there keel-laying dates for the ships? Parsecboy (talk) 13:13, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not that I am aware of, Parsecboy. I just double-checked, and neither Conway's nor Whitley list dates for keel laying. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:26, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • Best I seem to be able to find is Warship 2005, which simply gives 1936 (see the Split article if you want to copy the citation over). Parsecboy (talk) 19:32, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
        • Added to the table with citation. Thanks! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:43, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
          • I managed to find a British diplomatic report that refers to both of the locally-built ones being under construction in 1936. The Yugoslavs had two appropriately-sized construction docks operating simultaneously, so I reckon that seals the deal for 1936 for them all. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:41, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support: AustralianRupert (talk) 12:57, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • in the lead, "...a class of three destroyers built for the Royal Yugoslav Navy on a French design in the late 1930s" --> "...were a group of three destroyers built for the Royal Yugoslav Navy in late 1930s based on a French design"?
  • Done.
  • in the lead, I wonder if a short sentence summarising their pre-World War II careers should be added before mentioning the April 1941 invasion.
  • I don't think there is anything of note to say.
  • "...and two machine guns". What was the purpose of the machine guns? Close in protection?
  • Good question, possibly for close-in AA defence?
  • I wonder about potentially fleshing out the Service section with a little more detail, such some of the details in the table. For instance, "After being laid down in 1936, the ships were all launched between December 1937 and June 1938. Work was completed by X, and the vessels commissioned between April and December 1939..."?
  • I'm try to stick to using tables for that info in class articles.
  • "...and the captain was arrested pending an investigation". What was the result of the investigation?
  • Couldn't find the result.
  • in the References, Campbell should come before Cernuschi
  • Done.
  • the ""Flammes sur l'Adriatique" website should use endashes in the title rather than hyphens, I think
  • Yep, fixed.
  • Anyway, that's it from me. This will probably my last A-class review for a while as I would like to take a break from this part of Wikipedia. Frankly I'm getting concerned that my reviews are no longer as helpful as they should be and I think the process would be better off without me for a bit. Please feel free to ignore anything you don't agree with. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 12:57, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments by Sturmvogel_66[edit]

  • Link Aegean Sea, North Africa, Gulf of Tunis, scuttled, commission, reef, division, ran aground
  • Add range to the infobox.
  • Add at X speed to range figures if available.
  • ships had only been commissioned for a short time Suggest "in commission"
  • two year period hyphenate two-year--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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