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SMS Derfflinger[edit]

Nominator(s): Parsecboy (talk)
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This article was significantly reworked about a month ago, and it passed GA review 2 weeks ago. Just think: after this article, SMS Goeben, SMS Lützow, Mackensen class battlecruiser, Ersatz Yorck class battlecruiser, and O class battlecruiser, Milhist won't be seeing any more A-class noms for German battlecruisers. (kinda makes you want to cry, right?). Anyways, I feel this article meets the criteria for A-class, and the comments here will help me prepare the article for an eventual run at FAC. Thanks in advance to all editors who review the article. Parsecboy (talk) 11:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments You mean the barrage has almost lifted...?! Heh, anyway, another fine article. Just a few things:

  • Don't think there's any need to cite the nickname "Iron Dog" in the lead nor in the infobox, it's cited under the Battle of Jutland subection.
  • 14 dreadnoughts and eight pre-dreadnoughts and a screening force of two armored cruisers, 7 light cruisers, and 54 torpedo boats. Just an example of where you need to check standardation of figure formats - here, at the very least, "7" should be "seven" for consistency with the other single-digit numbers.
  • In Later Operations, is there a particular reason you go from events in 1917, then to 1918, then back to 1917 in the last (and very short) paragraph?
  • Need to check alt text and dab links in the tool box.

Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 03:02, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Heh, better keep my umbrella up then, eh...?! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 03:25, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think I've got the things you pointed out, with the exception of alt text for File:SMS Derfflinger crest.jpg, for which I can't think of anything because it's hard to tell what some of the things even are.
  • Tks mate, all good - I put in some alt text for the crest to hold the fort until/unless others can improve. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 03:25, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Looks good, good luck finishing the battlecruisers and starting on the infinite joys of the battleships. – Joe N 14:30, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • No problems reported with alt text, external links, or disambig links. Well done!
    • Last line of the second intro paragraph reads "Under the orders of Rear Admiral Ludwig von Reuter, the interned ships were scuttled on 21 June 1919; Derfflinger sank at 14:45." Whose 14:45? Germany's? England's? Was it UTC? Best to clarify that.
    • ...On that note you may want to note whose time is being used in the article. I think this would help avoid any confusion as to what standard is being used to measure the time.
    • In the second paragraph of the construction section you have the following line "On completion she displaced nearly 27,000 tons and was 210 m long." I can not think in metric, and though its mentioned in infobox I think that adding a conversion for 210 m here would be a good idea.
  • Otherwise it looks good. Well done! TomStar81 (Talk) 08:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks Tom. It's all in CET, and I've added a note to the first time that's mentioned. I also added conversion templates to the construction section. Parsecboy (talk) 12:46, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support But what's the significance of the diagram labeled as 16 December 1916? I couldn't find anything in the text of significance on that date. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:18, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • The map shows where the various portions of the British and German fleets the morning after the German BCs bombarded Hartlepool, Scarborough, and Whitby. The operation started on the night of the 15th, but most of the significant activity took part on the 16th. Parsecboy (talk) 23:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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