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Organize this todo list

This todo list is going to need better organizations than just headings as we tackle more and more tasks. It'll be better set this up sooner than later. Take a look at other well established WikiProjects if you need ideas. --Davidkazuhiro 03:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Policy

The policy page needs to be created. It's purpose is to be an easy reference of the projects consensus when it comes to scope and other issues. The talk page for the policy page will also be a great place to discuss and come to these consenses. --Davidkazuhiro 03:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Categories: sound mixer versus electrical engineer

Right now Category:Audio engineers is all mixed up, just like common street usage of the term "audio engineer". Live and studio sound mix people as well as sound recordists appear together with doctors, masters and chiefs of electrical engineering. I propose we split the category apart so that the artistic mix engineers are separated from the hardware and software designers. Any ideas for what the new category should be called? Or is it two new categories? How about the artistic mixers going into the Category:Audio mix engineers? Binksternet (talk) 23:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest Category:Category:studio engineers and Category:Live sound engineers

What people exactly you were referring to in the first place? Can you give an example? Izhaki (talk) 15:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Sure, here are three guys that can serve as examples of the three different kinds of audio engineers:

• Live mix engineer = Dave Rat, a southern-California based live sound mixer who owns a live sound concert touring company and mixes the Red Hot Chili Peppers live shows.
• Studio mix engineer = Geoff Emerick, a studio engineer who mixed albums for the Beatles.
• Audio engineer = John Kenneth Hilliard, an electronics and acoustics engineer who helped design the XLR connector, the Shearer Horn System and the Voice of the Theater speaker system. Binksternet (talk) 16:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

In that case I think it is worth discussing the following breakdown:

• Studio engineers:
  • Recording engineer
  • Mixing engineer
• Live mix engineer
• Mastering engineer
• Audio engineer

While many studio engineers do both recording and mixing, others specialize in either. As for your original question - yes Audio mix engineer is a proper term, but you might get into trouble with those who are just recording engineers. What do you think? Izhaki (talk) 17:32, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd put mastering engineer under "Studio", like this:

• Studio engineers:
  • Recording engineer
  • Mixing engineer
  • Mastering engineer
• Live mix engineer
• Audio engineer

It's also possible to break live sound people into FOH mix, monitor mix and system engineer. Binksternet (talk) 17:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but are there famous monitor mix engineers that are only that? And similarly, are there any famous recording engineers that are only that (and they aren't producers or mixing engineers?)

What does fame have to do with it? We can have an article on a profession without there being a requirement for fame... consider the Plumber page as an example. Audio mixing is a profession for a large number of relatively unknown tradespersons as well as a rare few superstars. Binksternet (talk) 16:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I was using 'famous' as if to ask whether there will be any one under such category. I see little point having many categories with no one (or very little few) under some of them. But if you assume that there should be a category of recording engineers - I see little point arguing this. Thus, the last breakdown you have suggested seems very reasonable. Do you have a better idea as for what new categories to introduce? Izhaki (talk) 19:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Just my two cents since this seems to be a very old discussion. I refer to myself as an audio engineer, but I do not design circuits or audio related gear. I engineer recordings, mix recordings, mix live sound, and produce audio programs for radio. I agree that there are some who specialize in, say, mix downs only just as there are those who do only mastering. I'm not sure that separating recording and mixing would be ideal as the amount of folks who do specialize is most likely a relatively small number. I do see the need to draw distinctions within the broad category of sound engineers though. I would suggest those distinctions could be made within the articles themselves in the same manner as distinctions are made within articles on musicians/artists and the genre they perform - if that makes sense.THX1136 (talk) 01:41, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

I think the top-level distinction needs to be between the engineers who do production of some kind and those who do product and facility design. I would propose a Category:Audio production engineers for the former and Category:Audio electrical engineers for the the latter. Both would be a subcategory of Category:Audio engineers. There could be further subcategories below Category:Audio production engineers; We already have Category:Mastering engineers and Category:Audio directors, for instance. ~Kvng (talk) 17:07, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

That makes good sense and would be a great way to make the distinction between those two categories. I would support that approach.THX1136 (talk) 16:30, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

I think 10 years is long enough to have discussed this. I have done it. We do need to figure out what to do with and sort through Category:Audio engineers by nationality. ~Kvng (talk) 17:23, 10 December 2017 (UTC)