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List of missing topics about food

My list of missing topics about food is updated - Skysmith (talk) 13:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Wheat mildew

Wheat mildew is a bot-generated article whose only reference is Household Cyclopedia. The article is terribly out of date and was tagged for 'tone' in 2007. In my opinion, its only interest is historical (and the history of housekeeping or wheat belongs elsewhere). Perhaps this article should be made into a redirect to Wheat diseases or Blumeria graminis. Any opinions/suggestions? Leschnei (talk) 19:56, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Would you like access to Bloomsbury Food Library?

Hi everyone. The Wikipedia Library provides access to a number of collections from Bloomsbury, who enquired whether there would be any interest in adding Bloomsbury Food Library to the partnership, so I thought I'd come here to find out! The library contains 75 ebooks and food encyclopedias, among other resources. If you edit food and drink articles, would these resources be of use to you? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 18:58, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Nutritional value tables

Hey, I noticed many nutritional value tables have values for cooked/prepared foods, even for basic ingredients, for example adzuki bean. Is there any reason/guideline for this? As ways of preparing food can vary, and it isn't known how the food the values are given for was prepared, these are probably not as useful as values for raw, uncooked food would be. --62.165.209.8 (talk) 12:45, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

The guideline in place is that the information should come from a reliable source which Wikipedia identifies with a citation. At the bottom of the box you can see that this information comes from the United States Department of Agriculture. Since they are the best authority that anyone in Wikipedia has identified, then Wikipedia presents the information in the way that this organization does.
If you have ideas and information for a better way of presenting information then share it. There is no obligation to fix everything but if you have something to say to advance the discussion then talk it through with a foundation in what the best available sources do. Wikipedia will never be better than the information which users find published elsewhere. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:37, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
I'm saying that if it's an article about such a basic food ingredient then the nutritional table should also be about the most basic, raw, uncooked version. There are many ways to prepare such food and giving the nutritional values of only one of these isn't really informative. Values for cooked food should be avoided unless the article itself is about the cooked version.
Nothing against the USDA, they seem to have data for raw adzuki beans, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.143.40.221 (talk) 23:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

A pretty bad article, anyone want to improve it? Doug Weller talk 11:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

I have plenty of food and drink photographs how I can help?

Hi guys I am new here I can provide all the photographs we need for this project. Please guide me here, One way I know is to upload them on wikimedia is that okay? or I should upload somewhere else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Govindduc (talkcontribs) 22:01, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Well done for wanting to get involved Govindduc! The best place for you to upload the images is indeed Wikimedia Commons, as the images are then available for use here and across all language versions of Wikipedia. The upload wizard (link here) is pretty self-explanatory. Tips I'd give are to make sure that there is enough detail in the file name and description, and to scout around to see what appropriate categories (e.g. start at Category:Food) the images should be filed in before you upload as it is a lot easier to add the category tags at upload (although it can be done later too). Feel free to drop me a message or reply here if you need any more help. Pyrope 09:40, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

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Franklin and Sons Soft Drinks company.

There wasnt a page for this company but I have created a stub page for it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_and_sons I am not up with editing wiki articles and I also dont have the time. I wanted to bring it to the attention of the wiki community though, so that someone with the time who more capable could create it and link it into the relevant areas of Wikipedia. The company's website is https://www.globalbrands.co.uk/brands/franklin-and-sons-soft-drinks Lotrjw (talk) 16:11, 30 September 2018 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lotrjw (talkcontribs) 14:28, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

World Heritage Cuisine Summit 2018 Edit-a-thon

Gobindgarh Fort, Amritsar

Hello folks, my friends Satdeep Gill and Wikilover90 from Punjabi Wikimedians User Group are organising an online edit-a-thon in collaboration with World Heritage Cuisine Summit 2018. More than 40 Chefs from all around the world will be presenting their exotic and unique dishes at the historic Gobindgarh Fort in Amritsar, India, during 12–14 October 2018. The summit itself is an initiative of the World Cultural Culinary Heritage Committee of the World Association of Chefs Societies or WorldChefs. Join hands with us to take part in this campaign to create content about some dishes that are to be featured at this summit. These articles will be presented in the form of QR Codes at the summit. We will later be adding QR Codes to the dishes made by celebrity chefs from 40 countries. We've created a list of articles for focus. This list has several dishes which are yet to have articles on English Wikipedia, and also many them need significant expansion. You can pickup one article, and sign-up indicating that under the "English Wikipedia" section under the first section of the page. So we welcome the members of WikiProject Food and drink to help us with these articles, and make this a successful endeavour. This edit-a-thon runs from 1 October to 15 October 2018. Also do add yourself to the participants page. Thanks, KCVelaga (talk) 14:06, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

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Anyone want to create an article on Sweet Jesus Ice Cream

Voodoo Doughnut mentions it as being harassed by the right, and if you Google it you'll find quite a bit of publicity both for that and the business[1] itself. Doug Weller talk 10:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Article need improving: Coffee flour

Hi there! I'm new to Wikipedia and I'm doing this for a uni assignment. I've just recently submitted an article titled "Coffee flour" out of the "requested articles" list. Because English is not my first language, I desperately need help with the article. I'm asking for reviews here because the article is most closely related to this WikiProject. So, it would be great if someone can kindly review my article, perhaps check the style, grammar, and structure of it. Thanks so much! Evkgoh (talk) 23:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

HELP WANTED

For a number of years we have been experiencing a steady decline in the number of administrators as a result of attrition and a declining number of editors willing to consider adminship. Things have reached a point where we are starting to experience chronic backlogs in important areas of the project including noticeboards, requests for closure, SPI, CSD & etc. If you are an experienced editor with around two years (or more) of tenure, 10k edits give or take and no record of seriously disruptive behavior, please consider if you might be willing to help out the community by becoming an administrator. The community can only function as well as we all are willing to participate. If you are interested start by reading WP:MOP and WP:RFAADVICE. Then go to WP:ORCP and open a discussion. Over the next few days experienced editors will take a look at your record and let you know what they think your chances are of passing RfA (the three most terrifying letters on Wikipedia) as well as provide you with feedback on areas that might be of concern and how to prepare yourself. Lastly you can find a list of experienced editors who may be willing to nominate you here. Finally, I may not have this page on my watchlist, so if you want to reply to me directly please ping me. Thank you and happy editing... -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:42, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Question about the best way to get the right people's attention

Clodagh McKenna Google Google News Amazon is an Irish celebrity chef who doesn't have an entry in Wikipedia. Where is the best place to get good food/chef editors to take a look and make a judgment about whether we should have one? Obviously I could go to a general place like WP:AFC but I was thinking a more food-specific venue might be better?--Jimbo Wales (talk) 21:54, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

@Jimbo Wales: In general, high traffic pages work better. I only read this because I wanted to check if you had been active recently.
Maybe ping some editors from Category:WikiProject Food and drink members? @Davey2010, Fransplace, AmericanAir88, Northamerica1000, and Peter K Burian: just some users from that category. - Alexis Jazz 22:19, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
@Jimbo Wales: I don't know if the following is the best place, but specific requests are sometimes placed at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Arts and entertainment § Food, drink, and nutrition. North America1000 22:29, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping, Personally I would say she may well be notable enough for an article but I've never created an article from scratch so I too would suggest the same venue as NA1k but ofcourse if anyone here did want to create one I obviously wouldn't have any objections to that. –Davey2010Talk 22:46, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
@Davey2010: you haven't? I'm surprised! Luckily, I have no shame to create stubs and let wiki magic do it's thing. What's also interesting is that this is first time I've encountered a subject that is notable, Wikipedia doesn't have an article about but Everipedia does. I didn't use any of it though.. no sources (or they don't work, their site is broken), but it might serve as inspiration.
@Jimbo Wales: Clodagh McKenna. Also d:Q58325707 and some related items. Are you in the position to meet her IRL? If so, whip out your phone next time and take a picture. We don't have any yet and there is none to be found. - Alexis Jazz 10:43, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: Thanks for creating the new article. North America1000 10:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

The origin of Hainanese chicken rice

Please visit the discussion and give your opinion on the origin of Hainanese chicken rice. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:08, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Featured quality source review RFC

Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. --IznoRepeat (talk) 21:39, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Similar products - Interwiki

Dumpling describes a class of similar products and is linked to German de:Teigtasche. But French fr:Raviole contains only few lines. Template fr:Modèle:Palette Raviolis is quite general.Xx236 (talk) 12:28, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Cabbage stew isn't interlinked. It's allegedly a part of Austrian cuisine, so what is the German name? Eintopf?Xx236 (talk) 12:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)4
German for Cabbage stew is Kohleintopf. Kohl means cabbage and stew means Eintopf. But there is no German article for "Kohleintopf". Best Conandcon (talk) 18:46, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Margarine

Dear all,

On behalf of Upfield, I’ve been working on a suggestion for a well-sourced update for the margarine article. In general, I am making suggestions for the introduction, history, nutrition section and after a kind advice by User Spintendo also for the section manufacturing process as the content of the latter section in today's article is largely plagarized. I am suggesting these changes to include further information and update information in the light of recent developments and research.

You can see my proposed draft in my user space. I also created a commented version where I explain what suggestions I made and why. Please find this version here

I was mandated by Upfield as it is important for a margarine manufacturer that the highly frequented Wikipedia article about Margarine is well structured, sourced and includes the most up to date information. In addition, there was important historical information missing and other information wrong or too abbreviated – e.g. Hippolyte selling his patent to a Dutch company or why Napoleon was looking for an alternative to butter (see below). For Upfield it was also important that the article describes the developments of margarine from its invention until today sufficiently. As margarine is going through a continuous development regarding its nutrients while new studies and research as well as official governmental bodies advisements on the consumption of nutrients enhances, it is important that these developments are reflected and based on the most recent findings and advisements. Respective updates were therefore made in the suggestions.

As I do have a financial conflict of interest, since I'm making this suggestion on behalf of Upfield as part of my work as a private consultant, I suggested my ideas for the article on its talk page. I now understand that editors active in this portal might be the right persons to talk to in this matter.

Please note, that all my suggestions follow NPOV and do not additionally mention Upfield or their products (some products where mentioned in the article before)!

I would be delighted, if interested editors could review the suggestions and take live changes as appropriate. Let me know if you have any questions or if I can do anything else that helps you to better evaluate my suggestions.

I am looking forward to your feedback. Conandcon (talk) 18:40, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Articles_for_deletion/Mitra_Samaja

I request people from this portal to share their observations about this notable restaurant:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mitra_Samaja

This article of the restaurant is pointlessly becoming a target of one person just because I improved the article from spam. NavjotSR (talk) 15:37, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Notability for chefs

Hello. Would a chef with two Michelin stars be notable to pass GNG, or not please? Just wondering if it is worth creating Josiah Citrin. Please ping me when you reply. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 06:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

need third opinion about DoorDash food delivery service

The argument is with an IP address with few edits in their history, who wishes to remove my mention of the Better Business Bureau report on this business. [2] The conversation is at Talk:DoorDash. Need a third opinion please. Dream Focus 03:36, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

HELP!

Will somebody other than me please tell Sampyche that 'chouriço' is indeed a word, and that to remove it they would need a RELIABLE source that actually says it isn't? They keep removing it, and citing as a 'source' some EU document about the production of sausage in Spain. Sumanuil (talk) 20:15, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Stop harrasing me and lying, please. Nobody here are said that chouriço is not a word and i didn't modified the portuguese variant below. I just noted that chorizo is a product of spanish origin recogniced by the European Union. The portuguese name derives from the spanish one, similiar to galician, catalan, asturianu, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sampyche (talkcontribs) 22:53, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm not lying. I just see no reason to remove it, especially when you cite a source that doesn't mention the names. That might be a good source for elsewhere on the page, but it doesn't justify your changes. Also, if my edits are going to be labeled 'harassment', 'vandalism', and 'lies', then I seriously wonder what constitutes a decent edit these days. Sumanuil (talk) 00:00, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Language boxes in food articles?

Is it normal to add unsourced language boxes to food articles. Pls see Talk:Tofu#Language box spam.--Moxy (talk) 21:18, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

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Need some help with a new article

I just created G-Fuel, a very VERY popular energy drink. Need some help working on it. AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 21:39, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

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Mixed peel

The Mixed peel redirect, which currently targets Succade, has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 18#Mixed peel. It seems that this common British ingredient is not currently mentioned anywhere. Please share your thoughts at the discussion linked above. Thryduulf (talk) 11:44, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

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Nomination of Portal:Soft drinks for deletion

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Nomination of Portal:Bottled water for deletion

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Nomination of Portal:Energy drinks for deletion

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Cream

The Japan section of cream#Japan has been unsourced since 2013. Can someone help? I can't find any WP:RS. (Highpeaks35 (talk) 00:53, 11 April 2019 (UTC))

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Hae mee has no source

Hae mee have no source. Therefore, it perhaps fails WP:GNG. Can someone chime in? --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 12:37, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

There are sources. i.e. http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/infopedia/articles/SIP_1807_2011-03-30.html (or a collection of sources in that article to launch a research for more sources for the food). The dish is widespread in Malaysia and Singapore, thus probably notable for as a food in South East Asia. Thanks for raising this up. Will find the time to enhance the article here. robertsky (talk) 04:38, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Bananas for deletion

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Splitting national drink from national liquors

Please discuss at Talk:National_dish#Splitting_National_drink_from_List_of_national_liquors AngusWOOF (barksniff) 18:10, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussion now at Talk:List_of_national_liquors#Splitting_National_drinks_from_List_of_national_liquors AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:52, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

What are the requirements for a webite/blog to be deserving of its own article?

I follow a lot of food blogs and I've noticed that food blogs appear to be underrepresented on wikipedia as compared to other types of blogs. Sorry if this is common knowledge, but what is the criteria for a website/blog to get its own article?

Pyttipanna

An IP editor keeps changing the region or state para in the infobox from Fennoscandia to just Norway. The article description seems to match more the first description. Someone knows which one is more correct? --Urbanoc (talk) 20:00, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Fishing for deletion

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Fudge article presents fudge as though it can only be made through the boiling method

See Talk:Fudge#NPOV - article presents fudge as though it can only be made through the boiling method. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 16:54, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Merger proposal

There is a merger discussion between Ricinodendron and Njangsa on this page [3]. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:01, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Update to Genius Kitchen

GeniusKitchen.com rebranded back to Food.com in July 2019. It had changed from Food.com to GeniusKitchen.com in August 2017, and it was recently changed back. [4], [www.geniuskitchen.com]— Preceding unsigned comment added by RLO473 (talkcontribs) 17:29, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

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Reassessment for King of Donair

I've taken the time to make edits to and expand King of Donair. Yes, I know the intro needs a some tweaking which will happen. The article needs a reassessment since it is more than a stub now. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 14:38, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

IP engaging in what looks like WP:PROMO at Blooming onion

This is not the world's most trafficked article, but it routinely sees edits from people who are sure that the local restaurant in their town is the true originator of the dish.

Right now it's getting a lot of edits from an a very persistent group of IP editors, (who, of course, ignore talk) so if a couple more people could watchlist it, that'd be great. Thanks. ApLundell (talk) 05:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

@ApLundell: I've done a bit of search searching and Outback Steakhouse might not have invented it. Some are saying Copeland's of New Orleans (chain name) had the blooming onion before Outback Steakhouse did. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 14:25, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Our article currently doesn't make any claims about who invented it.
I'd be surprised if Outback was really the original creator.
But there's a lot of restaurants that claim to have started it. They can't all be right, and they shouldn't be able to use Wikipedia as an endorsement unless they've got some good citations. ApLundell (talk) 18:27, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
@APLundell: You can put with a source that people have credited Copeland's of New Orleans with creating it. Copeland's has been around longer than Outback Steakhouse. Why does it have to be mentioned that Outback Steakhouse had a loaded blooming onion not Copeland's or Chili's? Chili's at one time had a blooming onion on the menu. Again, why isn't that mentioned? People who have edited the article shouldn't pick and choose what is added if they have a reference. The article could do with some expansion. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 07:05, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
The current persistent IP editor claims it was invented in upstate New York. So you see the problem.
If some ambitious editor wanted to turn this article into a history of the dish and all the restaurants that served it pre-Outback and the conflicting claims of supposed inventors, that'd be great.
I was just objecting to people showing up and edit-warring without source to credit their favorite restaurant (probably because they own the place). ApLundell (talk) 16:46, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

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Durian Cookies

An Indonesia Sandwich cookie made from durian, Bogabis Durian Sandwich cookie, https://aimbiscuits.com/id/durian-cream-180g/

A Thailand cookie made from durian, Vfoods Premium Durian Cookies, http://www.vfoods.co.th/our-brands/premium — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.248.96.233 (talk) 13:18, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

List of Digestive Biscuits Manufacturers

List of Digestive Biscuits Manufacturers

U.K. Doves Farm Organic Wholemeal Digestive Biscuits 400g, https://www.dovesfarm.co.uk/products/organic-digestive-biscuits-1x400g

U.S.A. SuperValu Digestives Biscuits (400 Grams), https://shop.supervalu.ie/shopping/food-cupboard-everyday-biscuits-supervalu-digestives-400-grams-/p-1027254000

India, Parle Nutricrunch Digestive, https://www.parlenutricrunch.in/ https://www.amazon.in/Parle-Digestive-Cookies-100g-Extra/dp/B07HZ6ZPP9

Gr, Papadopoulou, https://papadopoulou.gr/en/products/biscuits/digestive

Za, S. Africa, Bakers, Baumann's BAKERS® Digestives Original 200 g http://www.bakers.co.za/bakers-betta-snack-bakers-digestives/

Oman, https://www.nationalbiscuits.com.om/nabilbrand-digestive.html

S. Korea, Orion Dr. you Diget, http://www.orionworld.com/ENG/Dryou/sub01diget.asp

Es, España Gullón https://gullon.es/en/biscuits-digestive/

Canada, Peek Freans, https://www.snackworks.ca/en/products/peekfreans

France, Lefèvre Utile, https://www.snackworks.com/Products/product-detail?product=694990085583

New Zealand, Griffin's Wheat Digestive, https://www.griffinsbiscuits.com/en_NZ/our-biscuits/?range=Plain+Sweet

UAE, United Arab Emirates, Tiffany Digestive, http://www.iffco.com/tiffanybiscuits_gallery.aspx?imageid=63 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.248.62.34 (talk) 07:46, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Is chicha de piña a "spicy drink" if it has a bunch of cinnamon, cloves, etc. in it

The overall taste is pretty sweet because it has a half-pound of brown sugar in every pitcher. Зенитная Самоходная Установка (talk) 18:37, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

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Jewish cuisine template

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Baskin-Robbins

Hello! My name is Emily and I'm the Senior Public Relations Coordinator for Dunkin' Brands, the parent company of Baskin-Robbins. As noted on my profile, I've made an account to work with Wikipedia's editing community by submitting Talk page requests to update the Dunkin' Brands, Baskin-Robbins, and Dunkin' Donuts articles. My first request for the Baskin-Robbins article was approved by two editors, but I've struggled to get feedback on my second request to update the History section, since detail on the company's history hasn't been updated since 2014. Could someone from WikiProject Food and drink take a look at my proposed text and update the article on my behalf? Thank you! EC at Dunkin' Brands (talk) 17:07, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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List of Michelin 3-star restaurants

Someone thinks that List of Michelin 3-star restaurants is a list of all former and present 3-starred restaurants and constantly restoring two Japanese restaurants that have recently lost their stars. The discussion on User_talk:Supermann#List_of_Michelin_3-star_restaurants is going nowhere, except under my skin.

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The Coochie

The coochie is mostly famous for eating with chocolate. This is by bree — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.161.156 (talk) 04:44, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

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Parameter "creator" in Infobox "Food"

Hi all! I have a question regarding the parameter "creator" in the Infobox "Food". A novice editor has recently done mass edits by adding [[Indonesian cuisine|Indonesians]] as "creator" to numerous articles of Indonesian dishes, e.g. [5] (and also to dishes of disputed origin). My common sense understanding of the term "creator" here would be someone/something more specific, like a chef, a team of cooks, a restaurant, a food-producing company etc., but not a redundant Ricola-style entry ("Who invented it? - The Indonesians") when the country of origin is already specified in a different parameter. Before I do a mass revert, I just want to make sure that I am not to picky here. Is there a consensus about the content of the parameter "creator"? –Austronesier (talk) 16:46, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Please refer to Template:Infobox food. "Creator" in my general understanding refers to a specific individual or chef, for example, Gordon Ramsay. In the case of traditional cuisine with no solid evidence (if you can cite a reliable scholarly source) who first created the dish, just leave out the creator= parameter blank. -Jeblat (talk) 08:53, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

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Article assessment

For anyone interested there are comments concerning the assessment of Juhayna (company) at Talk:Juhayna (company)#Article assessment, Otr500 (talk) 11:58, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

The food history article should be one of our marquee articles in Food and drink. Instead, it is rambling, incoherent, and poorly organized, lurching from one subject to another with a semi-random selection of topics at wildly different levels of detail. It does use a few good sources (Laudan, Mintz, Albala (cited as "Alba" here!)), but it often misrepresents them. And it generally doesn't give page references, making it impossible to check the source.

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Hi all

I recently started an article for Oatly, please take a look

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Food additives codes redirect to chemical compounds instead of E number article

There are quite a lot of food additive redirects around, for instance or E330 (citric acid) or E948 (oxygen). Right now, those I sampled redirect to the article for the chemical compound, where the use is not mentioned (in the case of oxygen for instance, it would be fairly hard to work into the lead).

In my opinion that violates the principle of least astonishment in redirects. A better idea would be to redirect every Exxx to the correct subsection in E number: for instance E948 would go to E_number#E900–E999_(glazing_agents,_gases_and_sweeteners). Do you agree/disagree? TigraanClick here to contact me 16:33, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

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Eating utensil etiquette

Input from other editors would be appreciated regarding Eating utensil etiquette, an article within this WikiProject's scope. The issue for discussion at Talk:Eating utensil etiquette#Recent revert is a content dispute between this version and this version of the article.--Trystan (talk) 23:36, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Online restaurant booking services

The category 'online food ordering' contains a number of restaurant booking services such as Bookatable which are not (AFAIK) used for ordering food. I wanted to move them to a better category, but couldn't find one. Should we create a new category specifically for 'online restaurant booking' (or something to that effect)? DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:24, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

help?

I could use some help at Impact of the coronavirus pandemic on the restaurant industry as this is going to be a behemoth. The restaurant industry is one of the largest in almost every economy, and it looks like it could be decimated almost everywhere without huge government help. --valereee (talk) 19:37, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Please comment there. Thanks Johnbod (talk) 04:09, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Ruby chocolate

There is an error in the Ruby Chocolate page. It states that the company uses Ruby Cacao Bean and gives a reverence. I read the reference and it specifically states that it is made from ~an ordinary cacao bean, not something called the Ruby Cacao Bean. I asked a professional chocolatier and he stated it was an ordinary cacao bean.2601:200:8001:5CA0:40E5:3145:1961:6819 (talk) 18:32, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

RfC on scope of wet market article

Hi, there is a new RfC here on whether the scope of the article wet market should include those outside of Southeast/East Asia. Any participation is welcome! — MarkH21talk 20:48, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Tasseography

This divination-related article is also about tea and attempts to provide a short history. I thought this might be a good place to welcome editors interested in tea and who know of good related sources to improve it. A recent related thread is WP:FTN#Tasseography. Thanks, —PaleoNeonate – 14:23, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Burundian Cuisine

Is any information out of date? Is anything missing that could be added?

This page is not close to being complete being there's only one section which is the overall summary. This gives me plenty of room to add more sections which equates more information. This makes my job easier versus an article that's very detailed which means its close to completion. Smalls12 (talk) 20:24, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Restaurants

Hello contributors to WikiProject Food and drink! I've made a WikiProject proposal for a new WikiProject Restaurants, which is also similarly involved to this WikiProject. Check it out! dibbydib boop or snoop 05:00, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

I happened across this article today and saw it lists two dozen breweries at the top without references and without articles. Is it really the practice of these sorts of articles to include every brewery in the state, whether notable or not? --Hammersoft (talk) 22:22, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Stoves articles (plural) are a mess

The disambiguation is terrible between stove, oven, kitchen stove, and cook stove. I also found issues such as the fact that stovetop and similar terms have been redirecting to kitchen stove for years rather than cooktop. Does anyone want to sort this out? Some edits at Wikidata may also be necessary. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 00:41, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

I can help with Wikidata. Feel free to ping me. Besides, I'm wondering whether there are authoritative definitions of these things or not, and there are differences between American English and British English or not. --迴廊彼端 (talk) 14:49, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Definition of Vitamin A equiv. in Template:Infobox nutritional value

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In Template:Infobox nutritional value, the "vitA_ug" field is displayed as Vitamin A equiv. What is the definition of Vitamin A equiv? Is it the mass converted from retinol equivalent, or is it retinol activity equivalent? -Mys_721tx (talk) 15:26, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Kale in Scandinavia

What is kale in Swedish, Danish and Norwegian? Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Plants#Kale_in_Scandinavia Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:46, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

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Proposed merger

Looking for thoughts on merging Peach (fruit) into Peach. Content seems to overlap. Discussion on Peach talk page. Thanks. --Kstern (talk) 13:17, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

RfC: Reliability of PETA

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This category seems to have accumulated a number of pages which aren't really relevant. If you're interested, please contribute to the discussion at Category talk:Historical foods. --Macrakis (talk) 22:48, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Deep pan pizza — a bit of a mess

There's an article titled Deep Pan Pizza on a defunct British restaurant chain, but you can't easily reach it by searching because of this redirection which instead throws you into a section in the article on Chicago pizza. On the talk page of that article (or, just to make it even messier, on the old talk page of that article before it was renamed), here, some people are apparently not happy about that, arguing that Chicago-style is a very specific pizza type, and neither 'deep pan pizza' nor 'deep dish pizza' in a generic sense shouldn't redirect to it, but both currently do. Meanwhile, generic pan pizza has its own (short) standalone article. To me this whole situation looks like a mess (and there may be even more to it, I haven't done any thorough searching) that needs to be sorted out, but I wasn't sure how. I reckon a disambiguation page for 'deep pan pizza' would be a good start, to replace the current redirect, with links to the British company and to 'pan pizza' and possibly also to 'Chicago-style pizza'. But whether the said articles should otherwise be merged, or linked with hatnotes or see-alsos, or whether there are other articles to consider as part of this, I don't know. Views? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:00, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

@DoubleGrazing: The only "article" I found is the following.[6] I didn't find anything else on the chain. You can also find pictures of a couple of locations upon searching Google Images. I'm not good with getting images from third party sources. If by some chance you can find more on this defunct chain, that would be great for the article. As far as the different types deep pizzas, Pizza Hut has a deep pan pizza as we all know. If you compare a deep pan to a deep dish pizza, you'll see that the difference is obvious. Deep dish is a vastly thicker pizza. A Pizza Hut deep pan pizza is nowhere near as thick. A disambiguation page, if not already created, would be good to have. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 09:21, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

List of fictional vegetarian characters nominated for deletion, comments are requested

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Date of establishment of Lower Queen Anne Store

A check should be made of the date of the establishment of Dick's at Lower Queen Anne. Having lived near the store in the 1970's (1976-1989), I recall it was a Burger King originally -- since I ate more than one Whopper there. That store then closed and was replaced by Dick's. The date may be 1984, not 1974. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.239.76.251 (talk) 19:00, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Status of Greek subsection at Mediterranean cuisine

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List of chocolate bar brands - Inclusion criteria

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Baked apple has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you.

User:Spudlace has unilaterally redirected Baked apple into Cooking apple (without merging the well-sourced content), while creating a new article on German baked apples. Input from the Food and Drink community would be helpful. --Macrakis (talk) 19:15, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

This has been unreferenced and tagged for notability for over ten years. Please let's fix this. Bearian (talk) 00:32, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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Grana Padano

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