Template talk:Country alias

Flag proportions at the Olympics

As the Olympics require all flags to be 3:2 (except Nepal), perhaps this should reflect that if images are available.

At least use the correct version of the flag of Switzerland:

SUI = {
		name = "Switzerland",
		"Flag of Switzerland.svg",
		["Summer Olympics"] = "Civil Ensign of Switzerland (Pantone).svg",
		["Winter Olympics"] = "Civil Ensign of Switzerland (Pantone).svg",
},

And consider using the 3:2 version for Great Britain

File:Flag of the United Kingdom (3-2).svg

Mjb1981 (talk) 14:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Should start trickling through the system. If you see anything weird post here and I'll see it (no need to ping). Primefac (talk) 16:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Excellent! That all looks good.

I've been tracking down other 3:2 versions. The following should also be changed for the Summer and Winter Olympics.

Extended content

Australia AUS = { name = "Australia", {1900, "Flag of the United Kingdom.svg"}, {1909, "Flag of Australia (1903–1908).svg"}, "Flag of Australia.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of Australia (3-2).svg", [1900] = "Flag of the United Kingdom (3-2).svg", [1980] = "Olympic flag.svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of Australia (3-2).svg", [1952] = "Civil Ensign of Australia.svg", } United States USA = { name = "United States", {1896, "US flag 44 stars.svg"}, {1908, "US flag 45 stars.svg"}, {1912, "US flag 46 stars.svg"}, {1959, "US flag 48 stars.svg"}, {1960, "US flag 49 stars.svg"}, "Flag of the United States.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of the United States (3-2 aspect ratio).svg", [1912] = "US flag 48 stars.svg", [1960] = "Flag of the United States (3-2 aspect ratio).svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of the United States (3-2 aspect ratio).svg", }, ["Pan American Games"] = { [1959] = "US flag 49 stars.svg", }, }, Canada CAN = { name = "Canada", {1921, "Flag of Canada (1868–1921).svg"}, {1957, "Flag of Canada (1921–1957).svg"}, {1965, "Flag of Canada (1957–1965).svg"}, "Flag of Canada (Pantone).svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of Canada (Pantone, 3-2).svg", [1960] = "Flag of Canada (1957–1965, 2-3).svg", [1964] = "Flag of Canada (1957–1965, 2-3).svg", [1936] = "Canadian Red Ensign 1921-1957 (with disc).svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of Canada (Pantone, 3-2).svg", [1960] = "Flag of Canada (1957–1965, 2-3).svg", [1964] = "Flag of Canada (1957–1965, 2-3).svg", }, }, New Zealand NZL = { name = "New Zealand", "Flag of New Zealand.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of New Zealand (3-2).svg", [1980] = "Flag of New Zealand Olympic Committee (1979-1994).svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of New Zealand (3-2).svg", }, }, Kazakhstan KAZ = { name = "Kazakhstan", "Flag of Kazakhstan.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of Kazakhstan (3-2).svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of Kazakhstan (3-2).svg", }, }, Fiji FIJ = { name = "Fiji", {1970, "Flag of Fiji (1924–1970).svg"}, "Flag of Fiji.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of Fiji (3-2).svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of Fiji (3-2).svg", }, }, Croatia CRO = { name = "Croatia", "Flag of Croatia.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Civil ensign of Croatia.svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Civil ensign of Croatia.svg", }, }, Bermuda BER = { name = "Bermuda", {1999, "Flag of Bermuda (1910–1999).svg"}, "Flag of Bermuda.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of Bermuda (3-2).svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of Bermuda (3-2).svg", }, }, Azerbaijan AZE = { name = "Azerbaijan", {2013, "Flag of Azerbaijan (1991–2013).svg"}, "Flag of Azerbaijan.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of Azerbaijan (3-2).svg", [1992] = "Flag of Azerbaijan 2-3.png" [1996] = "Flag of Azerbaijan 2-3.png" [2000] = "Flag of Azerbaijan 2-3.png" [2004] = "Flag of Azerbaijan 2-3.png" [2008] = "Flag of Azerbaijan 2-3.png" [2012] = "Flag of Azerbaijan 2-3.png" }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of Azerbaijan (3-2).svg", [1994] = "Flag of Azerbaijan 2-3.png" [1998] = "Flag of Azerbaijan 2-3.png" [2002] = "Flag of Azerbaijan 2-3.png" [2006] = "Flag of Azerbaijan 2-3.png" [2010] = "Flag of Azerbaijan 2-3.png" }, }, Uzbekistan UZB = { name = "Uzbekistan", "Flag of Uzbekistan.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of Uzbekistan (3-2).svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of Uzbekistan (3-2).svg", }, }, Ireland IRL = { name = "Ireland", "Flag of Ireland.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of Ireland (3-2).svg", [1980] = "Olympic flag.svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of Ireland (3-2).svg", }, }, Hungary HUN = { name = "Hungary", {1918, "Flag of Hungary (1867-1918).svg"}, {1946, "Flag of Hungary (1915-1918, 1919-1946; 3-2 aspect ratio).svg"}, {1949, "Flag of Hungary (1946-1949, 1956-1957).svg"}, {1955, "Flag of Hungary (1949-1956).svg"}, {1957, "Flag of Hungary (1946-1949, 1956-1957).svg"}, "Flag of Hungary.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Civil Ensign of Hungary.svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Civil Ensign of Hungary.svg", }, }, North Korea PRK = { name = "North Korea", {1947, "Flag of the Provisional People's Committee for North Korea.svg"}, {1991, "Flag of North Korea (1948–1992).svg"}, "Flag of North Korea.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of North Korea (3-2).svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of North Korea (3-2).svg", }, }, Slovenia SLO = { name = "Slovenia", "Flag of Slovenia.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Civil Ensign of Slovenia.svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Civil Ensign of Slovenia.svg", }, }, Cayman Islands CAY = { name = "Cayman Islands", {2020, "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999).svg"}, "Flag of the Cayman Islands.svg", ["Commonwealth Games"] = { [2002] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands.svg", [2006] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands.svg", [2010] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands.svg", }, ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of the Cayman Islands (3-2).svg", [1976] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", [1984] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", [1988] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", [1992] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", [1996] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", [2000] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", [2004] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", [2008] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", [2012] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", [2016] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of the Cayman Islands (3-2).svg", [2010] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", [2014] = "Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg", }, }, Soviet Union URS = { name = "Soviet Union", {1936, "Flag of the Soviet Union (1924–1936).svg"}, {1955, "Flag of the Soviet Union (1936–1955).svg"}, "Flag of the Soviet Union.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { "Flag of the Soviet Union (3-2).svg", }, ["Winter Olympics"] = { "Flag of the Soviet Union (3-2).svg", }, }, Hong Kong HKG = { name = "Hong Kong", {1955, "Flag of Hong Kong (1876–1941 and 1945–1955).svg"}, {1959, "Flag of Hong Kong (1955–1959).svg"}, {1997, "Flag of Hong Kong (1959–1997).svg"}, "Flag of Hong Kong.svg", ["Summer Olympics"] = { [1960] = "Flag of Hong Kong (1959–1997, 2-3).svg", [1964] = "Flag of Hong Kong (1959–1997, 2-3).svg", [1968] = "Flag of Hong Kong (1959–1997, 2-3).svg", [1972] = "Flag of Hong Kong (1959–1997, 2-3).svg", [1976] = "Flag of Hong Kong (1959–1997, 2-3).svg", [1984] = "Flag of Hong Kong (1959–1997, 2-3).svg", [1988] = "Flag of Hong Kong (1959–1997, 2-3).svg", [1992] = "Flag of Hong Kong (1959–1997, 2-3).svg", [1996] = "Flag of Hong Kong (1959–1997, 2-3).svg", }, },

Mjb1981 (talk) 22:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Mjb1981, can you please refactor it to just the country line and the new flag(s)? I don't need all the rest and it's going to be a bit of a slog trying to sort stuff out. Primefac (talk) 23:55, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Sure, as below. I've added a few more to this list too.

List of flags

Australia Flag of Australia (3-2).svg United States Flag of the United States (3-2 aspect ratio).svg Canada Flag of Canada (Pantone, 3-2).svg Flag of Canada (1957–1965, 2-3).svg New Zealand Flag of New Zealand (3-2).svg Kazakhstan Flag of Kazakhstan (3-2).svg Fiji Flag of Fiji (3-2).svg Croatia Civil ensign of Croatia.svg Bermuda Flag of Bermuda (3-2).svg Flag of Bermuda (1910, 3-2).svg Azerbaijan Flag of Azerbaijan (3-2).svg Uzbekistan Flag of Uzbekistan (3-2).svg Ireland Flag of Ireland (3-2).svg Hungary Civil Ensign of Hungary.svg North Korea Flag of North Korea (3-2).svg Slovenia Civil Ensign of Slovenia.svg Cayman Islands Flag of the Cayman Islands (3-2).svg Flag of the Cayman Islands (pre-1999, 3-2).svg Soviet Union Flag of the Soviet Union (3-2).svg Hong Kong (only 1959-1997) Flag of Hong Kong (1959–1997, 2-3).svg Sweden Flag of Sweden (3-2).svg Tuvalu Flag of Tuvalu (3-2).svg Jamaica Flag of Jamaica (3-2).svg Cuba Flag of Cuba (3-2).svg Moldova Flag of Moldova (3-2).svg Qatar Flag of Qatar (3-2).svg Latvia Flag of Latvia (3-2).svg Mongolia Flag of Mongolia (3-2).svg San Marino Flag of San Marino (3-2).svg Jordan Flag of Jordan (3-2).svg Kuwait Flag of Kuwait (3-2).svg North Macedonia Flag of North Macedonia (3-2).svg Cook Islands Flag of the Cook Islands (3-2).svg Niue Flag of Niue (3-2).svg Grenada Flag of Grenada (3-2).svg Finland Flag of Finland (3-2).svg

Mjb1981 (talk) 08:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Also, these former flags of the USA:

Flag of the United States (1959-1960, 3-2 aspect ratio).svg

Flag of the United States (1912-1959, 3-2 aspect ratio).svg

Flag of the United States (1908-1912, 3-2 aspect ratio).svg

Flag of the United States (1896-1908, 3-2 aspect ratio).svg

Mjb1981 (talk) 12:09, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm gassed, will try to get to this tomorrow. Primefac (talk) 20:40, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Mjb1981, I started working on this, got distracted by something, and ended up at this article which seems to indicate that the actual Swiss flag (i.e. "the square one") is being used during the 2024 Games. I also cannot find a source that says that countries must fly a 3:2 flag. I'm not necessarily doubting you (clearly you've looked into this more than I) but if you have a source that I can use to justify what will be a rather large update, I would appreciate it. Primefac (talk) 13:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi, no worries.

The source I have is on page 37 of this [1] which is the guide created for Tokyo 2020. I have seen numerous references to it over the years but that is the one I can find now.

Mjb1981 (talk) 20:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. It does say in the guide that it's been standard at the Olympics, so that's good enough for me for previous years. Primefac (talk) 20:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, I did it, then I undid it, because it was causing issues with the historical flags (e.g. Hungary at the 1896 Summer Olympics was showing the modern flag). Going to have to think about the best way to deal with those. Primefac (talk) 21:14, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I see the issue. I assume you don't want to specify every olympics for such countries.

The countries from my earlier list which I think can be done now, as they haven't been in the Olympics under a different flag:

• New Zealand
• Kazakhstan
• Croatia
• Uzbekistan
• Ireland
• North Korea
• Slovenia
• Sweden
• Tuvalu
• Cuba
• Moldova
• Qatar
• Latvia
• Jordan
• Kuwait
• North Macedonia
• Cook Islands
• Niue
• Grenada

Mjb1981 (talk) 10:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

I've been looking a little bit more into this, and It seems likely that all events seem to use the Olympic 3:2 flag ratio. Whilst I haven't found anything so concrete at the Olympic flag manual linked to earlier, the pictures of medal ceremonies etc, the Paralympic Games, Commonwealth Games, Asian/European Games and others seem to show that this is a fairly universal practice at sporting meets.

Below are links to videos of flags at various games showing 3:2 flags, which I found by a few searches on YouTube:

• Commonwealth Games: flags of Nigeria and Samoa (both usually 2:1)
• Commonwealth Games: flags of New Zealand (usually 2:1)
• Commonwealth Games: flags of Jamaica (usually 2:1)
• Asian Games: flags of Jordan and the Philippines (both usually 2:1)
• CIS Games: flags of Kazakhstan and Belarus (both usually 2:1)
• Paralympic Games: British flag (usually 2:1)
• European Games: Swiss flag (usually 1:1)
• AFC Asian Cup: Kuwaiti flag (usually 2:1)

I suspect there might be exceptions, especially from smaller events that just grab an image off Wikipedia.

As is said in the Olympic Manual, this is done to ensure that all flags are of a similar size when displayed next to each other, so it makes sense for other games events to use this rule as well. I think it also makes sense for Wikipedia to do this for the same reason, as well as better representing the flags used at these events.

So what would you think about changing the default flag to 3:2 where such an image is available, and add exceptions for specific games if they are identified?

Mjb1981 (talk) 09:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I think that's a reasonable assessment, but if I'm going to be basically rewriting the entire data module with new values I would rather there be more of a consensus to do so. It's probably worth starting a discussion at WT:SPORTS and cross-posting to other Projects that might find it to be of interest (including WT:OLYMPICS and probably the Village Pump). I am also not 100% sure but I think this module is called by other templates that might not necessarily be using it for sport-related purposes, but again that's why it's probably good to get a wider consensus. Primefac (talk) 13:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Edit request

Please add File:Flag of Neutral Paralympic Athletes (Paris 2024).svg in Module:Country_alias/data, the flag is specifically used for NPA during Paris 2024 Paralympic Games:

	NPA = {
		name = "Neutral Paralympic Athletes",
		["Summer Paralympics"] = {
			[2024] = "Flag of Neutral Paralympic Athletes (Paris 2024).svg",
		},
		"Paralympic flag.svg",
	},

Thanks! №.N (talk) 11:27, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure thing. Primefac (talk) 12:05, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 2 October 2024

Hello! Can you replace this at Module:Country alias:

	LIE = {
		name = "Liechtenstein",
		{1921, "Flag of Liechtenstein (1852-1921).svg"},
		{1937, "Flag of Liechtenstein (1921-1937).svg"},
		{1982, "Flag of Liechtenstein (1937–1982).svg"},
		"Flag of Liechtenstein.svg",
		["Summer Olympics"] = {
			[1936] = "Flag of Liechtenstein (1936 Olympics).svg",
		},

With this:

	LIE = {
		name = "Liechtenstein",
		{1921, "Flag of Liechtenstein (1852-1921).svg"},
		{1937, "Flag of Liechtenstein (1921-1937).svg"},
		{1982, "Flag of Liechtenstein (1937–1982).svg"},
		"Flag of Liechtenstein.svg",
		["Summer Olympics"] = {
			[1936] = "Flag of Liechtenstein (1936 Summer Olympics).svg",
		},

Sangjinhwa (talk) 07:26, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:34, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 8 November 2024

Hello! Can you replace this at Module:Country alias:

	MYA = {
		name = "Myanmar",
		{1973, "Flag of Burma (1948-1974).svg"},
		{2010, "Flag of Myanmar (1974-2010).svg"},
		"Flag of Myanmar.svg",
	},

With this:

	MYA = {
		name = "Myanmar",
		{1973, "Flag of Burma (1948-1974).svg"},
		{2010, "Flag of Myanmar (1974-2010).svg"},
		"Flag of Myanmar.svg",
		["Asian Games"] = {
			[2010] = "Flag of Myanmar.svg",
		},
	},

Sangjinhwa (talk) 10:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 12:48, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

@Primefac: I just checked and they also used the new flag for the 2010 Asian Beach Games, Source. it will be great if you add this too

		["Asian Beach Games"] = {
			[2010] = "Flag of Myanmar.svg",

Thanks. Sports2021 (talk) 13:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, was there anything in 2010 where they used the older flag? If not, I can just drop the date from 2010 to 2009 and avoid all these exceptions. Primefac (talk) 13:08, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

That flag change happened in October (which is late) but as far as I know they only participated at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics before the flag change. They used the new flag for the Asian Games, Asian Para Games and Asian Beach Games. so I think it's better to change it to 2009 and make the Youth Olympics as exception. Sports2021 (talk) 13:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

@Primefac: I just checked and they also used the new flag for the 2010 Asian Para Games. it will be great if you add this too

		["Asian Para Games"] = {
			[2010] = "Flag of Myanmar.svg",

-- Sangjinhwa (talk) 15:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I've rearranged to make the Youth Olympics the exception. Primefac (talk) 16:47, 8 November 2024 (UTC)